Same girl broke my heart twice. (because of her mother) need answer to a question.

[artyemi]

Seeing that post from Arty again, Asip, now I'm confused. Who's this "him" that's going to spank her for foolin' around in the shower with people on the forum? That's love isn't it Arty? ??

what makes it love?

[Asip4u]

hmmm. i believe it was clearly infatuation. i was a wreck from it though. you should have seen me.

Yea, after i thought about all the things i did...I believe it was the same way with me.

[Asip4u]

what makes it love?

Depends who you ask i guess...Some might say it's a sign that he cares while others think the opposite.

[whaywardj]

Well, gee, Arty. If you can't say for yourself what love is, then I can understand how you might never be in it.

[artyemi]

Yea, after i thought about all the things i did...I believe it was the same way with me.

And it still hurts sometimes to think about some of those things. Is it the same for you?

But I really don't think it was love. If it was, I don't want it to be. I don't want to say I've experienced love in the worse way.

So I call it obsession, infatuation, wanting something I can't have.

Like when you fall into the water and you don't know how to swim. I got up and out, but still got water in my lungs.

[artyemi]

Depends who you ask i guess...Some might say it's a sign that he cares while others think the opposite.

Caring is not loving. It's different. I can't accept his caring or his love (if he has any for me, not the way I would want to, because it still hurts. Very much. I forgive him. But it hurts anyway.

[whaywardj]

On the face of it, I think you're wise to not call whatever it was you experienced "love." Knowing what it's not for you begins to define what it is for you.

[Asip4u]

And it still hurts sometimes to think about some of those things. Is it the same for you?

But I really don't think it was love. If it was, I don't want it to be. I don't want to say I've experienced love in the worse way.

So I call it obsession, infatuation, wanting something I can't have.

Like when you fall into the water and you don't know how to swim. I got up and out, but still got water in my lungs.

Yea it still does hurt, although less by each passing day. I thought about it from many different views too.

[whaywardj]

Here's one for y'all: Some of you know about the 5-year long on again/off again thing I was going through and recently put the cabash on. Feature this: Just got a call from the lady on my cell phone. No message. Just a "missed call" indication showing her number. She's MUCH too old to be playing those kinds of games (or should be), and I'm certainly much too old to be at all affected by them.

Just thought I'd mention it to let people (LIKE WHITEDRAGON!!!) know that some shit never changes and you just have to get used to shrugging it all off and going on your merry way. LOL!

[whitedragon20na]

okay, now I feel really stupid. I just called her and left her a message. d'oh!

[Tone]

You're making a fool of yourself... stop...contacting...her...

[shh!]

Have a little dignity! Groveling is so pathetic.

Isn't it time for this thread to die yet?

[whitedragon20na]

I just called her and told her that that's the last time I would do so and that I'm sorry everything ended the way it did. I said that if I never speak to her again, so be it as long as that's what makes her happy because that's what's most important to me, is that she's happy. I also told her that I still care about her and that I will always love her.

[whaywardj]

Somebody give me a spoon. I need to gag myself.

[whitedragon20na]

This all happened because I heard a song and it reminded me of something that she did that was so sweet and last night I had a total breakdown.