Do most guys like watching "teen" porn?

[dickriculous]

I mean amateur porn... porn videos that people in their homes film themselves, using cell phones or camera or whatever, and then put on youporn or wherever.

They are actors, their age is undisclosed. If they are actually underage and the wrong person finds out then whoever is involved goes to jail, and viewers can face legal consequences as well if the FBI/CIA determine by tracking their IP addresses and internet activity that they knew they were viewing underage porn. Also, legit porn sites have strict rules about the age of the actors (can't make a profit if they're getting shut down and thrown in jail now can they?) so it's safe to say that there aren't any 14 year olds on any legit porn site. The women you are talking about are 18 and above actors.

Not really, no. Teenage pregnancies are more at risk than pregnancies in a woman's 20s, in terms of medical issues both for the mother and the child.

This has nothing to do with the ovarian reserve. Even if it did, researchers don't know if the risks have anything to do with the nuts and bolts biological function of a teen vs a 20-something or if it's because your average teenager takes worse care of themselves than your average 20-something.

[searock]

They are actors, their age is undisclosed. If they are actually underage and the wrong person finds out then whoever is involved goes to jail, and viewers can face legal consequences as well if the FBI/CIA determine by tracking their IP addresses and internet activity that they knew they were viewing underage porn. Also, legit porn sites have strict rules about the age of the actors (can't make a profit if they're getting shut down and thrown in jail now can they?) so it's safe to say that there aren't any 14 year olds on any legit porn site. The women you are talking about are 18 and above actors.

If this^^ is true then it is actually quite comforting. At least they aren't real kids. Although I'm not entirely convinced - I've seen amateur porn (not teen) and it seemed pretty real to me. There's a big difference between fake amateur porn and actual amateur porn, one can usually tell.

Anyway, the issue still stands - the people in those videos look like teenagers. How can someone be turned on by watching kids having sex? Do most guys do that? Do most guys prefer that?

This has nothing to do with the ovarian reserve.

So what? It means that teenage bodies aren't fully prepared to bear and deliver a child as well as an older, mature body can. So from a biological point of view, it would be counterproductive for a male human to impregnate a teenage girl, since both her health and (most importantly) the health of the child would be way more compromised compared to a regular pregnancy during a woman's 20s or 30s. A woman in her 20s is much better suited to successfully deliver a healthy child than a teenage girl. Biologically, this should make her more attractive than a teenage girl.

[LifeInflux]

If you aren't being sarcastic, I'm kind of glad to hear that :-).

May I ask what about it grosses you out?

Because he's a people pleaser, and this thread points a very negative connotation at it.


I think a random, anonymous poll would be a better indicator of who likes what.

[searock]

I think a random, anonymous poll would be a better indicator of who likes what.

If there were no trolls...

[dickriculous]

If this^^ is true then it is actually quite comforting. At least they aren't real kids. Although I'm not entirely convinced - I've seen amateur porn (not teen) and it seemed pretty real to me. There's a big difference between fake amateur porn and actual amateur porn, one can usually tell.

Anyway, the issue still stands - the people in those videos look like teenagers. How can someone be turned on by watching kids having sex? Do most guys do that? Do most guys prefer that?

I've seen some of these actors and I have to disagree, they all have big tits and round asses, don't really see that on very many 14 year old girls. They may be able to pass for teenagers in the face but that's it. Baby face + sexy body = major sex appeal for a great number of people.

As for the issue, we've been going back and forth on that one in the second half of all of our posts. In addition to what's been said I'll add that an element of the taboo could be making it sexier (kind of like how having sex in public in a place where you can get caught is so exciting for so many people), and also just because someone LIKES teenage porn doesn't mean they prefer teenagers to 22 year olds or whatever, they're just watching the kind of porn that makes them tick at the moment, so it really doesn't matter what the "prime" age is or whatever.

Also, numbers don't make dicks hard. Hotness does. And what's hot is subjective, this is all the result of subconscious processes that couldn't care less whether or not you, me, or anyone else thinks it's logical, ethical, or anything else really.

If we're talking about girls with undeveloped, boyish bodies then I can't explain that one, but I've also never seen them in any kind of porn, whether it's labelled "teenage" or not.

So what? It means that teenage bodies aren't fully prepared to bear and deliver a child as well as an older, mature body can. So from a biological point of view, it would be counterproductive for a male human to impregnate a teenage girl, since both her health and (most importantly) the health of the child would be way more compromised compared to a regular pregnancy during a woman's 20s or 30s. A woman in her 20s is much better suited to successfully deliver a healthy child than a teenage girl. Biologically, this should make her more attractive than a teenage girl.

Like I said, researches don't actually know if the medical risks are because of the biological function of a teen vs a 25 year old or if it's because a teen tends to take worse care of themselves.

In fact, I checked out the very link you provided and here is the very first thing it said under "teenage pregnancies, risks and realities

Lack of prenatal care

Teenage girls who are pregnant -- especially if they don't have support from their parents -- are at risk of not getting adequate prenatal care. Prenatal care is critical, especially in the first months of pregnancy. Prenatal care screens for medical problems in both mother and baby, monitors the baby's growth, and deals quickly with any complications that arise. Prenatal vitamins with folic acid -- ideally taken before getting pregnant -- are essential in helping to help prevent certain birth defects, such as neural tube defects.

How do we know the other risks are not caused by this?

This isn't even to mention the fact that teenagers are more likely to drink while pregnant, smoke cigarettes while pregnant, and do drugs while pregnant. "Teenagers are more likely to experience pregnancy complications" is simply too vague of a description. How do we know the babies wouldn't be just as healthy if not for the above facts? How do we know they wouldn't be much more healthy?

[searock]

http://jezebel.com/5881335/why-do-men-love-barely-legal-porn

[searock]

This isn't even to mention the fact that teenagers are more likely to drink while pregnant, smoke cigarettes while pregnant, and do drugs while pregnant. "Teenagers are more likely to experience pregnancy complications" is simply too vague of a description. How do we know the babies wouldn't be just as healthy if not for the above facts? How do we know they wouldn't be much more healthy? We don't. We don't have a clue.

The fact remains that teenage girls are more likely to have complicated pregnancies both for them and the child - for whatever reason (I do believe it has to do with the fact that the body isn't fully developed yet, as well as the other things you mentioned). Also,

In most girls, menarche does not signal that ovulation has occurred. In postmenarchal girls, about 80% of the cycles were anovulatory in the first year after menarche, 50% in the third and 10% in the sixth year.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menarche#Relation_to_fertility), so considering that the average age for menarche is 13, this means that a girl isn't fully fertile until she is older than 19. On average of course.

[YoungCosmo]

Because he's a people pleaser, and this thread points a very negative connotation at it.


I think a random, anonymous poll would be a better indicator of who likes what.

How dare you assume that. Do I say the only reason you don't kill or commit serious crimes (as far as I know) is because you're a people pleaser? Do I make any assumptions (other than that you don't kill or rape people) about you?

[VincenzoG91]

http://jezebel.com/5881335/why-do-men-love-barely-legal-porn

The author of that article has been acting very strange lately:

http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/07/male-feminist-hugo-schwyzers-early-retirement.html

[YoungCosmo]

I guess part of the several reasons I'm grossed out by it is having had an older sister and many girl friends who were ages like 13-17 dating creeps who were 23-65. I have other reasons beside but having seen those firsthand, it really disgusts me.

[dickriculous]

The fact remains that teenage girls are more likely to have complicated pregnancies both for them and the child - for whatever reason (I do believe it has to do with the fact that the body isn't fully developed yet, as well as the other things you mentioned).

Yes but we have to put this in it's proper context. We are talking about the biological side of sexual attraction. Which means that to know for a fact that your counterpoint is true we have to know for a fact that the effects you describe are primarily due to biological processes.

As it stands now, before one thing or the other becomes proven, your argument can only stand as a social aspect of why someone might not want to impregnate a teen, which is completely different from an inherent biological sexual urge/fantasy.

[searock]

Yes but we have to put this in it's proper context. We are talking about the biological side of sexual attraction. Which means that to know for a fact that your counterpoint is true we have to know for a fact that the effects you describe are primarily due to biological processes.

You may have missed the part of my post in which I talked about the biological side. Here it is:

In most girls, menarche does not signal that ovulation has occurred. In postmenarchal girls, about 80% of the cycles were anovulatory in the first year after menarche, 50% in the third and 10% in the sixth year.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menarche#Relation_to_fertility), so considering that the average age for menarche is 13, this means that a girl isn't fully fertile until she is older than 19.

[searock]

The author of that article has been acting very strange lately:

http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/07/male-feminist-hugo-schwyzers-early-retirement.html

It doesn't mean that what's written in the article isn't true.

[dickriculous]

You may have missed the part of my post in which I talked about the biological side. Here it is:


(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menarche#Relation_to_fertility), so considering that the average age for menarche is 13, this means that a girl isn't fully fertile until she is older than 19.

Those numbers certainly are telling. If the fertility issue doesn't explain it then my best guesses are the things I mentioned in the first half of post #80.

[searock]

Glad at least we now settled once and for all that it's not "biologically normal" for men to be more attracted to teenage girls than women in their 20s. I've heard that excuse way too many disgusting times.

I get the "taboo" fantasy thing. There are many taboos though - why are there so many videos with "teen" in the title? I mean, I don't get the whole fixation with the "innocence" thing. So many older guys are into virgin young girls (at least ideally), they get turned on fantasizing about "corrupting their innocence" and all that crap. This often translates into dirty old men leering at young women and even worse teenage girls, in real life. Which is obviously disgusting. Is this the way most men think?

I've read somewhere that the term "teen" is often just there to signify that the women in the video have youthful beautiful semi-flawless bodies (which is per se a ridiculous assumption - most teenage girls are far from flawless, their bodies aren't fully developed yet!). So if this is true, when someone clicks on one of the myriad of "teen" labelled videos, what he actually wants to see is a semi-flawless, fully grown woman. Which is once again, actually quite comforting.