....then try another forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiggityDogg
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....then try another forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiggityDogg
[QUOTE=Lloyd95]....then try another forum.[/QUOTE
..............AMEN!!!
It is pretty long, so I only read some of it. You can go into the friend zone with a woman and sometimes end up dating her. It may not be common, but two of my friends were friends for years before finally dating and now they are married. I have read most of that stuff before, just not in one long ass post.
Wow. Simply wow.
Before I leave, can you tell me what I did that was so wrong? I am not talking about misconstruing what Rosebud said (which I apologized for) but from the very beginning. From my perspective, all I tried to do was share what I thought was some helpful information. Then the posts came in. So what was up with my original post that so offended you guys?
I apologize, diggity dog - I may have set the tone for mocking your post with my laughing at it in the first place. Due to its length, I thought you were spamming. My apologies. I hate to see people genuinely offended by our teasing.
There are always exceptions to the rule. Always. It is silly to hope you are the exception, especially when you can get the same result so much easier by avoiding the common pitfalls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junsui
For example: You can walk through a mine field and still make it across okay, but why do that when you can simple cut through the safe path? If you somehow make it through the mine field unlike the other 50 people who tried, you still could have made it through by not walking through it.
Diggity - shut up and stop crying. For crying out loud.
People thought you were spam - you weren't, now get over it and shutup. How can such a big baby give men advice on how to date?
I hate to see people get genuinely offended by the internet.
To me, if men need such a simple guide to help them with dating, then maybe they shouldn't be dating. Again, that's IMO. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DiggityDogg
Thanks shh! for the sincere apology. I posted this thread before I left work yesterday and was excited to see some responses when I got back to work this morning and was frustrated to see what I saw from people who never bothered to read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by shh!
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Originally Posted by Tone
Thanks for the positive response. You help is appreciated.
Do you know what the ad hominem fallacy is? You just committed it. You cannot attack the point by attacking the person. Your opinion of me has no effect on whether I am right or not. Besides, I have been very calm throughout this thrashing. I think it was childish, but I have apologized to one person whom I wronged and have not gone into a cussing fest insulting people. I guess babies are this calm.
If people are admitting they responded wrong to my post then it's cool, I am fine with that. I want to discuss the actual topic at hand but i am not so sure we can now with all of this off topic clutter on here. I wish a mod would erase the posts so we can start fresh.
You're entitled to your opinion but I think you are being way too harsh. Not everyone has a gift with the opposite sex and there are a ton of guys out there who are consistantly failing and get frustrated and mad with women over it. It's not the woman's fault that these guys fail, yet these guys blame women for it. They blame women for dating "Jerks", they blame women for not telling them that they aren't interested and will never be, they blame women for making it so hard to approach them, etc. It's not women's fault, it's theirs and they don't know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junsui
My Guide was to try to show these guys that it is their fault, and that women do not want to be treated bad by a guy in order to fall for them. What women do not want is a spineless guy who caters to her every need because he likes her. That guy is a doormat, who could fall for a doormat? A strong relationship is between two equals.
Yea, I want to apologize too. Us regulars can get very carried away on here. I just browsed your first post and it's pretty well written. Basic, but well written. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I blame men for everything.
Are you a robot from the future, Diggity.
Thanks! Did you have any thoughts or disagreements for what was posted?Quote:
Originally Posted by TAVS
I keep thinking of that Blackstreet song, anyone remember that?
LoL
Like I said before I think you could help some people with your information but to be honest not everyone is going to read your post because of it's length which is why I threw my suggestion out there to you. Don't take these comments to heart, everyone has their own opinion and personally none of us care for spam which is what we thought you were. I apologize for THAT, but again you are going to have people that are not going to agree with you.
I just skimmed it for BS really. I did like your thoughts on getting a number. I agree you need to tell the woman what you want not ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiggityDogg
"I'm going to take you to dinner this Thursday"
Not
"Do you think you would want to go to dinner with me sometime in the next week or so?"
Yeah, but if I'm not interested in the guy and he tells me he's taking me to dinner or something, I would get irritated that he's telling and not asking.
But you're not interested, so who gives a F*ck?
I agree Junsui...
Probably even if I was interested. I don't like being told what to do. And if I wasn't interested at first, I would be more likely to give him a chance if he asked.
I understand, apology accepted as I hope you accepted mine. I don't mind people disagreeing with me, I am used to that. I am not used to being dismissed. I had no idea this place gets hit with so much spam. It was my first post here. I just did a google for new Dating sites and this one came up. I decided to give it a shot, not knowing what I was walking into. :surprisedQuote:
Originally Posted by Rosebud
I would prefer this: "I want to take you to dinner on Thursday."
Yes, me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by shh!
Surprises are fun, huh? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DiggityDogg
The other method might work on passive, unchallenging girls, though. I suspect that the two of us would rather be approached as equals because we be smart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junsui
:-)
lol That must be it shh! ;)
I read about the phonenumbers on here and I'll tell you something.
When I was dating, I used to have people ask fro my phone number and I can say I have given out a fake number a lot ( yea I know, but I did). So One night when this guy came over and started talking ( and we got along) he switched it up...he gave me his number and told me to call him. That was the first and only time I ever had that happen and I respected him for doing that. And I did call him afterwards. I thought that was so much better than asking for the girls number instead. because you give them the option, which comes off as being a gentleman.
Me three. Much better!Quote:
Originally Posted by shh!
The idea behind not specifically asking for the number has nothing to do with changing someone's mind. Too many "Nice Guys" are afraid of women. Yes I said it, they are afraid of women. They are afraid of not being accepted and they feel they need to ask permission for everything. This is nothing more than an attempt to help guys break this habit. Not many guys will even own up to doing this, but it doesn't change the fact that it is true.
I don't believe in "demanding" anything, but I do think you can "ask" in a number of ways. I would prefer to advise a guy to do the following:
John: "Becky, I want to take you out to this great restaraunt on Tuesday. Are you free that night?"
He is not actually asking her for her permission, he is asking if she is available. I would recommend that over saying:
John: "Becky, Can I take you out to dinner on Tuesday?"
Example one shows more confidence. Of course if the person already has their mind made up, changing how you phrase a question isn't going to change her mind, but these guys need to start acting with more self respect and self confidence.
I wish this thread would die....
The whole phone number thing is only a minor part of what the Guide is about. The Guide is about the "Nice Guy" as I define in the beginning of the Guide. These "Nice Guys" know how to treat a woman good, but they do it at their own expense. They are too selfless and lack the self respect to stand up for what they do not deserve.
The "Nice Guy" I talk about also has some very bad habits that need to be broken in order to change their results towards the positive. The primary one is their fear of rejection. This fear of rejection pushes too many guys into trying to sneak in a relationship with a woman under the disguise of "friendship". This is why so many of these guys end up just being friends with the object of their affection. It has nothing at all to do with "Jerks", it has to do with them not having the balls to stand up and openly persue what they really want.
Then why are you giving it a free "to the top" by posting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd95
lol Lloyd.
I like dating the nice guys. Pushovers are fun. You always get your way.
I had an ex girlfriend tell me this too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosebud
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Originally Posted by DiggityDogg
You haven't had a shot, cowboy, because you hit the door with your guns blazing about some ridiculous guide you want everyone to help you write. Do what the rest of us do: Hire an editor.
And, in the future, you might want to sit back a listen a little while before you start blaring your mind-numbing horn in people's faces.
You make me smile, Hayward. :)