Thanks Mish, but all you need to do is ask.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
How are things going btw?
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Thanks Mish, but all you need to do is ask.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
How are things going btw?
Things are good, little by little getting there :)
Shoot.. I wish there was a translation in english for the famous work of this author (Kostas Kavafis) "Ithaki".. let me try and remember how it goes.. "San pas ston pigemo gia tin Ithaki, nafhese na einai makris o dromos.. gematos perimeties, gematos gnosis.. tous lestrigones kai tous cyclopes, ton thimomeno Posidona den tha sinandiseis, an den tous kouvalas mes tin psyche sou.. and ee psyche sou den tou stinei embros sou..... blah blah.... ke an telika tin Ithaki tin vreis ftohiki, ee Ithaki den se prodose.. ee Ithaki sou edose ton dromo"Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Backround: The author is talking about Odysseus, the protagonist in Homer's Odyssey.. who is comming back from the war in Troy, to his kingdom in Ithika.. after years of being away from his wife.. without knowing the ruins of Ithika that now await him.. he sets off on his journey to go back home.. where he encounters years of struggles and torture along the way..
Non-litteral Translation (to the best of my ability): "As you make your way towards Ithika, pray that the road is distant, that your journey is long.. filled with adventures, knowledge and wisdom.. and do not be affraid of the "monsters", nor the wrath of the G-ds.. for you will not meet neither if you do not carry them deep within you.. if your mind and psyche do not place them in front of you.. blah blah.. and in the end, if you find Ithika differently from what you imagined it to be.. Ithika did not betray you.. for it was Ithika.. that gave you the journey.."
Hopefully, not much was lost through my sh*tty translation.. but you shouldn't be quick to overlook the little things.. and you shouldn't hope for your journey to be a quick one..
Think of it like enjoying a glass of 2002 Samos Vin Doux Sweet Muscat, 2003 Gary Farrell Rochioli Vineyard Russian River Valley Pinot Noir, 1999 Roederer L'Ermitage Anderson Valley Brut, or a 2001 Shafer Hillside Select Stags Leap District Cabernet Sauvignon.. Would you drink it the same way you would say, a beer? Let's hope not.. you would take your time.. smelling it.. enjoying the color.. feeling the sensation inside your mouth as it swirls around.. as you taste it.. and lastly.. you might just, at that point, take your first gulp.. and still have more to work on..
Every moment, is a journey.. and within that journey.. are adventures, memories, and much to learn from.. if you overlook even the little things.. rather, call them little.. is to stop living..
You WILL get there, there's no question or doubt about that Mish.. but don't ignore the journey along the way.. feel it.. fully.. and enjoy everything it has to offer you..
Best of luck Mish.. :D
very much soQuote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
it was a shot at subtle sarcasm
Oh. Thank goodness! Carry on, then.Quote:
Originally Posted by miSSleepy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Thanks G, I know what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrkScorp [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Good quote by the way. I read Odyssey back when I was 9. It left a lasting impression.
Wow, its so windy in here my hat just blew off, lol!
Ahahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Hey, Mish, you might be interested to know we finished The Aeneid w/my son last year (mildly expurgated). I like the sound of your parents (or whoever was responsible), my compliments to them.
Vashti,Mishanya,miSSleepy,Indireloaded
if you post in my thread...you could at least say what you think and give me some advice...
A BIT OF A LONG STORY, DON'T FEEL LIKE TALKING MUCH ABOUT IT AT THE MOMENT.. NOTHING TOO SERIOUS THOUGH.. ANYWAY, HOW'VE YOU BEEN? SO MANY DAYS AND NOT EVEN ONE CALL? I'M HURT.. :).. ANYWAY, WE'LL GET TOGETHER ONE OF THESE DAYS, MAYBE THIS WEEKEND IF I'M NOT TOO BUSY.. DON'T WORRY "HER NAME".. I DON'T FORGET FRIENDS
i should sent this message?...i will send it now...
If in english.. then yes..Quote:
Originally Posted by Drogba88 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
If in Brazilian Portuguese, then translate appropriately..
In the future.. stop texting.. am I the only one who finds it ironic to text via a phone? Just CALL! CALL and SPEAK! Better yet! Meet up in person!
You are seriously hindering your ability to attract the other person when you hide yourself behind text-only, or a phone.. It's so much..., more powerful, when you can talk naturally, in person.. giving the other person the chance to enjoy your vibe/aura, as they listen to the sound of your voice.. as their eyes wonder around your face.. making note of each detail.. and as they get lost in your voice, the words start to matter less and less.. and the source of that deep, rich, soothing voice.. the lips.. starts to matter more and more.. and that tension starts to fill up what little space is left between the two of you.. and as that gap gets smaller and smaller.. that tension and longing for the other person's touch grows stronger..., and stronger... and just before your lips meet..., touch..., exchange that sense of warmth.. you realize something..., that's taken place between that very first moment.. and now, you can feel that..., attraction.. you have no choice in the matter.. it's not a matter of choice.. it's just feeling..
Now, before you start to have this with her.. you should first send that message and re-frame.. just remember.. do NOT be pushy, needy, desperate, or creepy.. do NOT try too hard.. and please.. do NOT chase after her.. when animals are chased, their instincts tell them to run away.. so please.. relax.. message, re-frame.. and just be yourself.. the guy she was already attracted to.. (without that pushy-ness)..
Best,
GrkScorp
You are right, sorry. And since you care about such, I am female.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drogba88 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I agree w/Giga & BB about honesty. No need to comment further b/c my advice would simply mirror theirs.
My advice is listen to GrkScorp. You seem someone who needs & appreciates detailed advice & I can't think of anyone better suited on this site to give you such. PM him, I'm sure he'd be happy to help.
For those wondering, yes, I'm serious.
i send her this...
i: A BIT OF A LONG STORY, DON'T FEEL LIKE TALKING MUCH ABOUT IT AT THE MOMENT.. NOTHING TOO SERIOUS THOUGH.. ANYWAY, HOW'VE YOU BEEN? SO MANY DAYS AND NOT EVEN ONE CALL? I'M HURT.. :) ..ANYWAY, WE'LL GET TOGETHER ONE OF THESE DAYS, MAYBE THIS WEEKEND IF I'M NOT TOO BUSY.. DON'T WORRY JESSICA.. I DON'T FORGET FRIENDS
she answered me in less then a minute...
she: I AM GREAT...EVERYTHING IS GREAT...SCHOOL AND FRIENDS,EVERYTHING...
i: SO YOU START TO LEARN...AND FIXING GRADES...?YOU EVEN FIND FRIENDS... :)
she: OF COURSE,VEEERY GOOD FRIENDS...
i: OH..THEY ARE NOT SOOO GOOD...THEN THEY WILL SOON STOP HANGING OUT WITH YOU... :)
she: WELL AND I AM VEEERY GOOD...
i:IF YOU SAY SO...GOOD NIGHT "VEEERY GOOD"
she:THAT IS MY BOYFRIEND SAYING...HEHE...GOOD NIGHT... =)
opinions please...
i am listening...
THANKS
i send her this...
i: A BIT OF A LONG STORY, DON'T FEEL LIKE TALKING MUCH ABOUT IT AT THE MOMENT.. NOTHING TOO SERIOUS THOUGH.. ANYWAY, HOW'VE YOU BEEN? SO MANY DAYS AND NOT EVEN ONE CALL? I'M HURT.. :) ..ANYWAY, WE'LL GET TOGETHER ONE OF THESE DAYS, MAYBE THIS WEEKEND IF I'M NOT TOO BUSY.. DON'T WORRY JESSICA.. I DON'T FORGET FRIENDS
she answered me in less then a minute...
she: I AM GREAT...EVERYTHING IS GREAT...SCHOOL AND FRIENDS,EVERYTHING...
i: SO YOU START TO LEARN...AND FIXING GRADES...?YOU EVEN FIND FRIENDS... :)
she: OF COURSE,VEEERY GOOD FRIENDS...
i: OH..THEY ARE NOT SOOO GOOD...THEN THEY WILL SOON STOP HANGING OUT WITH YOU... :)
she: WELL AND I AM VEEERY GOOD...
i:IF YOU SAY SO...GOOD NIGHT "VEEERY GOOD"
she:THAT IS MY BOYFRIEND SAYING...HEHE...GOOD NIGHT... =)
opinions please...
i am listening...
THANKS
if you're not in love with her, then move on. too many girls out there to be dealing with so much drama over months...
the only time situations like this may be worth pursuing is when you know you're in love and you need to know where you stand with that someone... otherwise ppl come & go-- so don't become addicted to crushing cause it can be addictive
Hmm.. :nerd:Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
No no.. don't worry.. i'm not implying that this is a "white flag" in any way.. there was no battle or adversarial interaction in the first place..
But I do realize that I do owe you a genuine apology.. You don't need to hear this from me Indi, but you're really sweet.. and although i'm swamped with work right now, and the computer crashed as I was typing a message to OV on an other thread.. a very long message, which left me a little frustrated at the fact that I can't recover it and will have to remember exactly what I wrote.. I realized something..
We all go through life a little differently.. and have our own unique stress to cope with.. life throws all sorts of things at us.. And what I want to be strait up and open about is that I do take you seriously.. just the way you are.. I don't know if someone on this forum, or maybe someone at work or your family/friends have somehow made you feel that they don't take you seriously enough to the degree which you deserve sometimes recently.. but I personally want you to know that I do.. and there's no need to be any less or different from who you are for anyone to give you that level of respect.. I really mean that Indi.. ;)
And so, I do apologize for my rather insensitive tax-season-stress backlash, and for not being a little more aware of that much earlier..
And as for the OP, you should NEVER take on a republican mentality and put idealogical "blinders" on.. there's much to learn, from everyone.. and especially those members who you specifically were quick to dismiss! The marketplace of ideas is a free and open one.. when it works that way, you're in the best position to pick out the ideas that you think work best for you.. but when you turn it into a monopoly.. YOU are the only one who suffers.. everyone is here for their own reasons.. some just come to ask questions.. some come because they're too bored to continue playing Minesweeper.. but others are here to offer advice.. they don't NEED to be here.. they're here to help you.. and it's quite rude to dismiss their help like that.. especially from members like the ones you mentioned..
So, listen to what EVERYONE has to say.. and take what you can learn from it..
I'd go into BFD-ing.. but i'm not sure I want to.. lol.. I think in a place like Brazil, and after watching City of G-d, I don't want to feel like I may be getting you killed..Quote:
Originally Posted by mscourvoisier [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
But also.. learn to let it go.. it's not really a big deal.. it really isn't.. look around you.. from 15-19.. i'm sure you can find girls who you like.. but before you do.. try and work on not being SO assertive and border-line pushy-controlling..
Latin american women are so sensual and sexual to begin with.. i'm not going to continue describing them, because I don't want to imply that they are "easy".. or offer any less token/put-on resistance than other women.. but they simply feel no reservations for getting and even demanding exactly what they want.. especially from Brazil!
So, just let it go.. and stop filling up my PM box! :tough:
I'm just kidding.. you can keep asking questions.. but just post.. I'm not the kind of person that can deal with the 1,000 character limit, much less the 10,000 one.. :P
so people what should i do now...?(step by step)
For starters you should stop whining and being demanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drogba88 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Then you might want to thank all the posters who had been kind enough to spend their time to give you advice so far.
Then you might want to start listening to their advice and share your thoughts and experiences on the advice given.
I think this would be a good start.
As far as the girl goes, why not talk to her on the phone, build some rapport as a friend, see if there are things that you both like? If you have something in common you can later use that to take her out some place and see where it goes from there.
thanks mishanya....
anybody else?
i havenot heard today with her...
should i wait her to send message...or should i send(and what) or call her..??
why did she mentioned her boyfriend at last message...?
Most likely the case, and I know this is going to zoom in from one ear and out the other but i'll still say it, she's not interested in you that strongly any more..Quote:
Originally Posted by Drogba88 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
The best advice I can give you is.. for the moment.. leave her alone romantically.. move on to other people.. and come back to her later.. (she will forget or weaken those bad emotions/feelings she feels towards you such as pushy-ness, awkwardness)
Then, there are no magic words or lines or stories that you will tell her that will make her fall in love with you.. That's not going to happen.. if some Voodoo guy tells you it can, and you test it and it works.. (PM me.. then maybe i'll consider writing a book.. right after I marry Alessandra Ambrosio)
With that being said.. just call her up.. if you can call her.. CALL HER.. and TALK.. about what? ANYTHING! Honestly.. learn to have some moxie.. but if conversation isn't natural for you.. write down some "talking points" which are like "ideas"/"topics" that you'd think would be fun, interesting, funny, etc to talk about.. And just TALK.. forget e-mail.. forget text.. forget little messages.. when I want to see if I really connect with someone.. I want to hear their voice.. and i'm sure she feels the same way.. the voice is powerful.. because it's MORE of YOU than text-only is..
So if you have the chance to talk.. TALK.. because if you text.. it doesn't matter what you say.. because the fact that you texted instead of called alone shows "I'm too much of a wussy to call you".. and that's NOT attractive.. for either gender..
I dont know and understand her absolutely 100%...because she is sometimes giving so clear YES signals and then all of sudden she is giving NO signals....
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HER...AND HER "VEEERY STUPID" BEHAVIOUR...
i cant say that i dont care about her...i do...and even now when she is with other guy...i like her...but i want HER to be happy...it does not matter with who...the MOST IMPORTANT thing is HER happines...and thats the TRUTH...
i was seeing other girls in last 2,3 months...but they are NOT like HER...and i am not type of men who CAN be with someone while thinking about someone else...
i know one thing she started the whole thing and she was really trying to get close to me...and she really LIKED(i dont know now) me...i know that...but from 8.month and week before her travel to sea...our relationship is going DOWN all the time...
and i really dont know how to carry on with this...because i am really sad...
the problem is not in HERs Yes or NO signals...she first start and give YES signals..then she gave some NO signals...and that NO signals where on the TOP when she send that message(look i and you are friends and we will stay that)..and i then also give up...i just send her that WUSSY message answer(honestly i dont believein that..but if you think now that then okay...i can only say you what you said to me first...enjoy in your perfection when we cant together...)and i sent her message 2 days later for New Year...she didnot answer for last 2 messages....and now she send message after almost 2 months...WHY does she do that..??i feel so ....i dont know....very confused and sad...because i almost forget her...but its hard when she keeps coming back...and is living in building next to mine...
so PLEASE girls and "boys like GrkSCorp" help me out...
good luck with your love-life...i hope you will never be in my situation...
and also THANK YOU for all your help until now...
just f*ckin move on.
DO IT!!!
how many more signals does she have to send before you get it? im sorry but she's NOT just into you. she probably just have sent you a message because she's bored and she knows you'll be more than willing and would give anything to talk to her again. and yes, you're all confused again even after 2 months, just to prove it.
now, learn to move on. like, REALLY move on. whether she tries to talk to you or not. or if it may help, just find another woman you can give this attention to, someone that reciprocates it, at least. just this time, do things differently. no more demanding-ness, pushiness and all that obsessing sh*t.