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Ahaha! Smackdown by trishbaby!
Psst - trish! No one actually reads GrkScorp's posts. Lemme know if he says anything worth reading. :D
I sense someone is aggravated :DQuote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Obviously.. but it's cute that she thinks she's being subtle or indirect, or anything but see-through about it..Quote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
It's O.K. though; I really do forgive her, I don't hold grudges, even though i'm a Scorpio and that's the second thing on the list we're most infamous for..
Give it a couple of more posts and opportunities to let go of all that emotion from within.. and then we'll have her back :D
Yea, it is just Vash...I would make her my love slave if I knew her in person. She will come around, Vashti just has her mood swings. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GrkScorp [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
:horror: Yikes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Rule#52: Don't call them "mood swings", you're just making them worse.
I read a few pages of the book from the link posted by Mathias and I didn't think the book degraded women. It just mostly gave party and magic tips for opening up and breaking the ice with women (which is not so bad). Is your friend following the advice in the book or specifically degrades her on his own accord? Is he trying to hook her up for relationship or just to use her for sex?Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerGrid [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Mish, you must not have read the couple of pages I read. I read the part where guys are being taught to make girls feel insecure so as to make them grateful for male attention.
Will your daughter be studying this as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrkScorp [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
The pages I read recommended to ingore the woman and approach the the group of people she is with instead. After the group of people are entertained enough then start paying attention to the girl. I didn't find a lot of comments aimed at making the woman feel insecure. There was something they reffered to as a "neg" which is niether a compliment nor and insult, kinda like a passing observational comment, that was as bad as it got from what I read.Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Give it to her under the guise of sitting her down and letting her know you have heard good things about her as your newest employee but you are concerned about some 'things' you have been hearing. As the owner, you are well within your purview to deal with this.
That's a tricky issue; only because I do want my daughter to be ahead of things aswell; but the conflict of interest that exists is that girls can't keep a secret, especially from other girls, and especially on chick-crack like this..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gigabitch [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
So if she's allowed to study it, and understands the soundness of the methods and logic behind them; she'll actually make them obsolete (at least now, women read it and either deny it, or don't read it carefully enough and think "oh, this would never work, this is all BS")
So no, her cock-tease training would be different; don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with MY daughter commanding male attention (I wouldn't be the father with the shot-gun by the door, or the one pimping out his daughter either; but she has to be an alpha-female, and as much as studying and working out are going to help her in that, she also has to understand the rules of attraction, beyond the basics; so she'll blow other female competition out of the water and get the guys she wants); If/When I feel she's ready to keep things to herself, and mature enough, I wouldn't have an issue teaching her this stuff..
I just finished reading the entire book today..Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
ALL OF IT (methods) are directly taken from David D'Angelo & Jeffries; I can't recall a moment in the nearly 500 pages of text where I came across something original by Mystery or Style.
All it is, is the D'Angelo & Jeffries methods applied to picking up club/bar girls. Hooray! what high standards, what a challenge! :P
To be fair to them, when your target isn't about to leave within the next 30 minutes, and when you are certain you're going to see them tomorrow and the day after and so on (co-workers/school/etc), then there is less pressure on the approach; so to that extent, fine.. but let's face it.. women want one-night-stands more than guys do.. they crave no-strings-attached sex.. and they go in search of guys just like this to bars and clubs, and they instead don't find them, settle for a quick ego boost from brushing off a couple of loser-guys, and go back home frustrated.. (single women, girls w/ bf's, married women).. so obviously; if these guys flood the club/bar scene and make these girls feel comfortable.. when they say "not here", the guys say "I understand" and give a wink.. and make them feel like nobody is going to find out, that they'll have that option to be together after sex, etc.. then that's going to get you to make some sounds.. (uaahh.. aahhhhh..oohahhha) ;)
I'm actually quite upset, if I knew more about intellectual property i'd forward this book to D'Angelo & Jeffries and have them sue.
GrkScorp
You shoud write a book
... yeah, it could appear in the comic section, right next to the Far Side books. :D
Why? all of this stuff has already been made into books, YEARS AGO!Quote:
Originally Posted by nuevo [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
These guys just came in, took that stuff, and made thier own book(s).. that's litterally what they did!
A great excerpt: (sic)
"WIDEFACE: You are very beautiful [spoken with a quarter Chinese/quarter
English/quarter rich Chinese/quarter Zsa Zsa Gabor accent]
EXTRAMASK: Is that rights Thank you
WIDEFACE: So, when did you get here2"
I remember reading somewhere that there is not much they can do as they are selling "advice" which is easily reworded and resold.Quote:
I'm actually quite upset, if I knew more about intellectual property i'd forward this book to D'Angelo & Jeffries and have them sue.
The model presented in the book is based on an original created by Mystery, and is not considered a violation of intellectual property rights.
Check this out: [URL="http://www.3www.cinematical.com/tag/Neil%20Strauss/"]http://www.3www.cinematical.com/tag/Neil%20Strauss/[/URL]
My question is what will all of the guys who rely on this book do once "the game" is up?
~Sphinx
Perfect their masturbation skills since women won't play? Prey on high school girls who may still fall for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSphinx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Or perhaps realize that "the game" is played on a much deeper level than what is presented in the book.Quote:
Perfect their masturbation skills since women won't play? Prey on high school girls who may still fall for it?
~Sphinx
The "skills" in the book can easily work on getting women into bed. There're tonnes of horny women around. It's all about practice and systematic repetition.
+ The book concludes with a fact that Relationships require a lot more work than pickups, but are also a lot more rewarding.
"She laughed musically. It was like the soundtrack to falling leaves.
CLICKITY CLOMP, CLICKITY CLOMP, CLICKITY CLOMP."
p.119
Heres the end of the story for all of you who have followed it
My coworker was making fun of her one day and i had a hangover from the night before. I have a headache like no other and he starts making fun of the girl i have been looking after. I just said **** it and stepped infront of her and looked my coworker in the eyes and told him exactly what was on my mind. The whole cafe was quiet for what seemed like hours, then one of my friends started clapping and most of the room joined in. After our shift i met her outside and we stared at eachother for a few minutes. Im still not caring about anything other then her and this amazing migrane bashing my head. She says that she didnt know i felt that way about her and if im up to commitment she would love to be mine. well long story short im headin over to her place in a few to tuck her in. It looks like good guys dont finish last as long as they stand up and fight for what they believe in. Ill protect this little one with all my heart and soul and i know everything will be fine......
Ahh, I like a nice end to a story! Congrats!
I thought you said you weren't interested in her? So all this time you were just a jealous competitor for this girl?Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerGrid [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I'm glad it all ended well for you. I just think you could have had a few people fooled that you were pursuing a noble action instead of eliminating competition.
Sounds like the end of a movie. 'Art imitating life' and all that...Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerGrid [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Do u like this girl? If u do, u should protect her. U love her right?
Hey GQuote:
Originally Posted by GrkScorp [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I found them all here by the way, if you were interested in what they all look like
[url]http://forums.becomingapua.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=c885e4e78606bbf5ae1d17ca8a7a2b e3&board=12.0[/url]
Do you know all of their material?
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Originally Posted by PowerGrid [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Good story haha. That is pretty awesome. Better you than him I am sure. Did you like her from the beginning? You have to tell us what he was saying and what you said! we must know! in detail! we are nosy! please!
So the book lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Hahahaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
No way OV; relationships ARE alot more rewarding, you just have to find the right person.. but it's hard when there are so many right people :lol:
No, but all jokes aside.. this is why I could never just have a one-night-stand/no-strings-attached sex.. there's really no point to "picking up women".. that's a concept that appeals to highschool guys or college freshmen/sophmores at best..
It's really not about the sex at all.. it's about the company, the connection you feel with the other person, having great company (which is why I like to call back, go on actual dates with those same women, do fun things together that don't involve sex, go on trips together "it's very fun with someone who you've had sex with, but are not quite in a long-term-relationship with"), have non-sex pleasure (satisfy romantic urges/desires.. aka, sweet stuff you see in movies that you just need to do with someone and need someone to do it with and share the moment with), enjoy and explore her positive qualities; and it's really a strong, powerful, intense emotional connection and bond you form with that person; (that's really the ice-cream; sex is just the small cherry on top)
The problem with LONG-term-relationships is exactly that.. THEY'RE LONG.. and everyone has issues, and with time, everyone's bad qualities start to show, or maybe they just start getting boring.. and well.. if you're young enough, it's not time to start over-looking and start to settle for the lesser of the many poisons.. just end things nicely and start the same thing over again with someone else.. (but not just for sex.. the book is right; relationships ARE more enjoyable)
Weren't you just bragging on another thread about all the sex you've been getting since your girlfriend broke up with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by GrkScorp [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Bragging? I think I was very discrete; (no numbers, no extensive details, and no names)Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Yes; i've been having sex, but NOT one-night-stands/no-strings-attached sex though..
Just because you meet someone in one night; or have sex within 2-3 follow-up encounters does NOT make it a one-night-stand..
It's not like I have sex and say.. "O.K. later b*tch, that was great.. bye.. the door is that way.. don't forget to lock it.. don't call me.."... and it's NOT like all I do is just have sex.. sex represents maybe less than 5% of the time I spend with this one girl now.. I just enjoy the company alot more.. and there are other things equally if not more emotionally stimulating/enjoyable..
I have RE, so physical pleasure from sex is like almost nothing (I envy guys who are addicted to sex).. I actually enjoy lower-back massages (alot of tension, it kills me) more than I would enjoy having my **** stroked/massaged..
And, i'm actually a bit of an addict when it comes to "giving"; that's what sex is for me.. it's EXTREAMLY emotionally stimulating/enjoyable.. you can feel that connection.. that energy just rush through the two of you; bringing you closer.. (plus; thanks to all my lesbian friends and our open conversations; there's a better understanding of what areas woman want a guy to focus on, when, how hard, etc.. "to be fair, it's from a lesbian's POV")
But sex is not all that important at all.. An other person's company is what matters.. and when you have great company, and someone you can enjoy deep passionate/romantic feelings with, and just emotionally click with.. I think that's what life is all about.. there's no better feeling in the world for me.. and that's really what i've enjoyed the most these past 3 months (especially during the holidays)..
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Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Hahaaha!
Not making fun of YOU Mish..
I can't believe these guys.. what a joke.. complete jokes.. Asian Badboy... Badboy.. Juggler.. Mystery.. (generic one/two-word name that sounds tough/cool)..
This sounds like some teenage cartoon-show.. no wonder nobody takes these guys seriously.. even if they maybe do know what they're talking about..
At least Ross Jeffries is well-respected; and David D'Angelo is just such a great guy; what a magnetic character.. he's so awsome, you immediately connect with him even as a guy.. the rest of these guys though; i'm sorry, it's just hard to take them seriously with names like that..
That's actually only a very small percentage of them, Mish.Quote:
Hey G
I found them all here by the way, if you were interested in what they all look like
[url]http://forums.becomingapua.com/index...be3&board=12.0[/url]
Do you know all of their material?
Jeffries is often considered the father of the "seduction community" and though I agree with Grk about D'Angelo being a classy guy, even he does not use his real name in marketing his material.
The general ideas in the material are basically the same, though each is taken from a different perspective and comes from a different personality.
~Sphinx
I don't like how you say this as if it was a fact. It isn't everyone's thing. I don't remember things I do with people all that much in the first place. Personally...I think everything you mentioned is the cherry on top...Ice cream is the sex, It always was....nature just tries to cover it up with some caramel on top and a cherry...so we continue to **** and make babies. Honestly, I don't have time to spend with a girl traveling and all the nonsense, I just want sex once in a while to relieve the tension and anxiety.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrkScorp [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Nah not reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Sex gets boring quickly. If sex is all you have going with a person the two of you won't enjoy each other for very long.
If I used the same analogy I'd say sex is the sugary bits inside the cherry.
Yeh, I've noticed. They all seem pretty similar. In a way that it's all about approaching with confidence. Their techniques vary very little.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSphinx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
So who are the other gurus?
For you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
_________________
For mostQuote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
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O.K. I see your point, i've entertained the idea, and "this is what I personally feel/think"..Quote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
If sex was the ice-cream, then babies wouldn't survive.. you would think that people would be having sex so often that we would be overpopulated in a matter of years; but actually, babies wouldn't survive.. People would be too busy having sex, that there would be no need to take care of babies, there would also be no formal family structure where two parters could take care of not only the babies, but eachother (with age). But don't take my word on it, that's only an idea, that's just what "I" think..
An other crazy idea of mine is.. maybe, just maybe.. emotional bonding is more rewarding than sex.. There are two basic needs in life; to replicate, and to survive.. The need to replicate will eventually be satisfied, but the urges will linger.. the need to survive however is constant; and needs constant satisfaction.. So while your desire to have sex is a lingering urge to replicate; your desire for quality companionship, emotional bonding, and connection are all parts of your ongoing need for survival.. the latter is actually more satisfying than the former.. but again, that's just how "I" feel.. don't take my word on it..
Stress, anxiety, tension.. are all things that can be relived with sex, (no question about it).. but i'll give you a personal case.. most of the information i've shared with the guys here on the forum, is stuff i've shared with my friends.. and as you can imagine, it's like handing dynamite to a kid and watching it run off to some field to set it off.. they "pick-up" girls, take them home, have sex, and then they don't bother calling back, they just want new,new,new.. They actually enjoy a much broader variety in women than I do.. they have sex with someone new every other day, or two days.. but guess what? They're not happy.. they're really not happy.. they're not satisfied.. they get to have more sex with great-looking girls than most guys in NY or the US could hope to have, but they're not happy.. for them, sex is an addiction.. they get that temporary high from the thrill of having sex with someone new, and then after it's gone, they need to look for it again.. they are always stressed and tense..
I on the other hand rotate every 2-3 weeks.. it may seem like a short time; but it's not.. when I find someone, sure, that first night will be intense and fun.. but I actually like to put heavy physical contact & sex off to the 2nd or 3rd night.. and after sex; I DO want to meet again, spend time together again.. go to places, have non-sex fun, emotionally bond, go to trips and mini-vacations, go to and do romantic things.. it's a great feeling (and personally, it's better than sex).. and in those 2-3 weeks, I can feel my body and mind running on 110% efficiency; i'm mentally sharp, i'm stress-free, zero tension, i'm in total bliss.. that huge, enormous, powerful, deep, surge of feelings and emotions just creates such a strong bond and sense of connection in the other person.. you can feel eachother's energy just comming together, and you get this feeling like you both know how each of you are feeling/thinking, even if you're half-a-world away.. you feel the two of you become into this "one" entity.. and this sense of comfort and security comes to be.. and it's an amazing feeling.. (that's the ice-cream).. and on top of that ice-cream; tons of cherries follow, with chocolate syrup, caramel, & strawberries in front of the refrigerator in the kitchen.. mmmm.. now i'm in the mood for ice-cream... :D
But anyway.. before I go.. my point is.. was.. ok, fine, maybe sex feels really great for you, maybe you DO enjoy it to a really high degree.. but no matter how much your pleasure from sex; there's more pleasure to be had (and a constant stream of it) from emotional connection and bonding with an other person.. and while sex will temporarily relieve stress & tension; the powerful emotional connection you feel with an other person romantically, will leave you feeling in total bliss, and rid you of stress & tension for much much longer..
I don't think sex is boring, OV.