A woman president

I didn't say Americans are smarter than citizens of foreign countries (even though we do have the smartest individuals, organizations, schools, companies, etc)

I said that foreigners try bending malleable Americans into believing the load of anti-American shit that regularly comes from their mouths. Smart Americans aren't so ignorant

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Is a foreigner (yes, Canada makes you a foreigner) going to care about what is in the best interests of another country? No

The biggest problem is the impact foreigners have on the thoughts of Americans. Specifically, that it is cool, intelligent, "good" or whatever to be against America. Luckily the smart Americans know better than this

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Stop trying to stir up shit, DM or you'll get the thread closed.

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I didn't say Americans are smarter than citizens of foreign countries (even though we do have the smartest individuals, organizations, schools, companies, etc)

I said that foreigners try bending malleable Americans into believing the load of anti-American shit that regularly comes from their mouths. Smart Americans aren't so ignorant

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It is good to have an open mind when it comes to politics. 'Anti-Americans' as you call them, do have a lot of criticism that needs to be taken into account. Granted there are always a couple of assholes that just want to bash America, but who are you pointing the finger at? I think everybody that's posted in this thread has a valid point, and I wouldn't call any of them Anti-American.

And oh god. I think the American education system is just horrendous. I disagree that America has the smartest individuals; it doesn't matter where you come from, there are smart people everywhere.

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Originally Posted by anachronistic [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Granted there are always a couple of assholes that just want to bash America, but who are you pointing the finger at?

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I wasn't pointing my finger at Indi but, no offense Indi, you very much fall into that boat, and across the internet on many of the sites I frequent I hear way too much repetition of the kind of stuff you say. It's a cultural movement, just that

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Originally Posted by Frasbee [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Just like any modern country whose government controls the economy.

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That doesn't define socialism. I'd say you are certainly greedy capitalists. Are you trying to say, you are same as Sweden, for example? Sure, they are capitalists too, but there is something in their government that makes them socialists, find out what it is.

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Originally Posted by anachronistic [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

And oh god. I think the American education system is just horrendous. I disagree that America has the smartest individuals; it doesn't matter where you come from, there are smart people everywhere.

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If our education system was such t3h sux0rz why are 17 of the top 20 universities America, with the other 2 being English?

l0llerskates you're fighting an uphill battle

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I wasn't pointing my finger at Indi but, no offense Indi, you very much fall into that boat, and across the internet on many of the sites I frequent I hear way too much repetition of the kind of stuff you say. It's a cultural movement, just that

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All Indie said was that she thinks Gore would make a good Vice President. I couldn't agree more. Her opinion should not matter any less, just because she is not American.

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

A president is the top leader in the military. The president can decide to have war, where to send troops, who to fight, all that (to some degree of course, but look at Bush). All combat roles are restricted to men, conscription includes all males over the age of 18, but not females. Is it right to have a woman leader being the one responsible to send an entirely different demographic off to fight and die, when her own demographic can't? Just think about it- Millions of men mobilizing to fight a war with the usual death and suffering, all men, all mobilized at the command of a woman?

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That's right, what a nightmare would it be to have a woman president. Just look at the ruin experienced by all these other countries, what a horrendous torture it must have been/ is for them.

Agatha Barbara (1923-2002)
President of Malta from 15 Feb 1982 to 15 Feb 1987.

Corazon (Cory) Aquino (1933-)
President of the Philippines from 25 Feb 1986 to 30 Jun 1992.

Mary McAleese (1951-)
President of Ireland since 11 Nov 1997. First woman president having succeeded another one, Mary Robinson, in history.

Ruth Dreifuss (1940-)
The first female Swiss head of State as president of the Confederation following a very, very long list of one-year male rulers

Vaira Vike-Freiberga (1937-)
The first woman to be president of a country in East/Central Europe or came out with the former Soviet Union, was electer by the Parliament of Latvia on 17 Jun 1999 for a four-year term, starting on Jul 8. After winning a second and final term in 2004

Tarja Kaarina Halonen (1943-)
Finland's first woman president, since 1 Mar 2000.

Maria Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (1947-)
President of the Philippines since 20 Jan 2001. Daughter of late president Diosdado Macapagal and second woman president of this Asian State.

Megawati Sukarnoptri (1947-)
The daughter of the late president Sukarno is president of Indonesia from 23 Jul 2001 to 20 Oct 2004

Nino Burdzhanadze (1964-)
Acting president of Georgia twice, from 23 Nov 2003 to 25 Jan 2004, and again from 25 Nov 2007 to 20 Jan 2008.

Michelle Bachelet Jeria (1951-)
President of Chile from 11 Mar 2006.

Of course she can voice her opinion. All I'm saying is Americans need to look at everything a foreigner says about American politics with some uber scrutiny

DM, why don't you just resign yourself to the fact that *everything* changes. Rome had its day, so did Britain, likewise the USA.

Next? Well, my money is on China. Figuratively and literally. A decade or so ago I would have said Japan, but I don't think they have the cultural interest to actually make any changes in America, they just want to keep a grip on the tiger's tail. They'd be quite happy to sell that grasp to someone else who might do a better job of it.

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

If our education system was such t3h sux0rz why are 17 of the top 20 universities America, with the other 2 being English?

l0llerskates you're fighting an uphill battle

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Our colleges are good. The rest is ass.

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Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

That's right, what a nightmare would it be to have a woman president. Just look at the ruin experienced by all these other countries, what a horrendous torture it must have been/ is for them.

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Well someone clearly failed to see the point of this thread *huge ****ING cough*

What I was asking was for peoples opinions on female presidency in regards to the scenerio I raised, being a woman sending a few million men off to war. Basically, to look at a female presidency through THAT lens :detective <-- that lens

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

If our education system was such t3h sux0rz why are 17 of the top 20 universities America, with the other 2 being English?

l0llerskates you're fighting an uphill battle

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I can't even read half of this post, for the record.

What makes a university so damn wonderful? I don't think it is the rating...

I don't think the value of education comes from the reputation of its school; it comes from you. Give anyone a place where they can learn something... and if they truly want to learn it, they will. The time that it will take them to learn it depends on how extreme their interest lies on a spectrum of obsession.

By the way, how many of these universities will give you the ability to speak a foreign language fluently after 2 semesters? How about learning entire programming languages from scratch, in a month?

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I wasn't pointing my finger at Indi but, no offense Indi, you very much fall into that boat, and across the internet on many of the sites I frequent I hear way too much repetition of the kind of stuff you say. It's a cultural movement, just that

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None taken, you know that, Love. As for the rest, I'll take that as a compliment. Its deliberate, you're quite right about that. But I can assure you that, as a Canadian, I have far more interest in seeing the USA remain a viable world power than, for instance, seeing things go more.... East, which is what I presently see happening. The only hope I have then is to see that my son marries an asian woman. :surprised

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Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

DM, why don't you just resign yourself to the fact that *everything* changes. Rome had its day, so did Britain, likewise the USA.

Next? Well, my money is on China. Figuratively and literally. A decade or so ago I would have said Japan, but I don't think they have the cultural interest to actually make any changes in America, they just want to keep a grip on the tiger's tail. They'd be quite happy to sell that grasp to someone else who might do a better job of it.

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To be honest I actually like China. They deal with a lot of the same shit we do

And yeah, Japan definitely had the spread a decade ago. They ended up in a better place than being a superpower though, at least in my opinion

Next, I won't debate what is going to become of China in regards to future superpowers

Just consider energy and fresh water :D

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Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

That's right, what a nightmare would it be to have a woman president. Just look at the ruin experienced by all these other countries, what a horrendous torture it must have been/ is for them.

Agatha Barbara (1923-2002)
President of Malta from 15 Feb 1982 to 15 Feb 1987.

Corazon (Cory) Aquino (1933-)
President of the Philippines from 25 Feb 1986 to 30 Jun 1992.

Mary McAleese (1951-)
President of Ireland since 11 Nov 1997. First woman president having succeeded another one, Mary Robinson, in history.

Ruth Dreifuss (1940-)
The first female Swiss head of State as president of the Confederation following a very, very long list of one-year male rulers

Vaira Vike-Freiberga (1937-)
The first woman to be president of a country in East/Central Europe or came out with the former Soviet Union, was electer by the Parliament of Latvia on 17 Jun 1999 for a four-year term, starting on Jul 8. After winning a second and final term in 2004

Tarja Kaarina Halonen (1943-)
Finland's first woman president, since 1 Mar 2000.

Maria Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (1947-)
President of the Philippines since 20 Jan 2001. Daughter of late president Diosdado Macapagal and second woman president of this Asian State.

Megawati Sukarnoptri (1947-)
The daughter of the late president Sukarno is president of Indonesia from 23 Jul 2001 to 20 Oct 2004

Nino Burdzhanadze (1964-)
Acting president of Georgia twice, from 23 Nov 2003 to 25 Jan 2004, and again from 25 Nov 2007 to 20 Jan 2008.

Michelle Bachelet Jeria (1951-)
President of Chile from 11 Mar 2006.

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You are forgetting the fact that many of these Presidents werent actually country leaders. Presidential systems are different in different countries. USA is one of the rare one with its presidential power, just like Russia. Of course, there are tons of 3'rd world countries also, probably, but those aren't important right now.

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Well someone clearly failed to see the point of this thread *huge ****ING cough*

What I was asking was for peoples opinions on female presidency in regards to the scenerio I raised, being a woman sending a few million men off to war. Basically, to look at a female presidency through THAT lens :detective <-- that lens

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Yes, I was looking through THAT lens

Virtually all of the countries listed sent troops off to war / unrest at some point in time with a woman president in charge without any problems. The millitary establishment and its principals carries on regardless of the sex of the head of state.

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Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

That doesn't define socialism. I'd say you are certainly greedy capitalists. Are you trying to say, you are same as Sweden, for example? Sure, they are capitalists too, but there is something in their government that makes them socialists, find out what it is.

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It's called welfare.

Bitch.

Means lazy lowlifes have nothing to worry about because the state will take care of them.

What do you know about Louisiana?

What do you know about Pennsylvania?

New Jersey?

or New York?

How about California, or Illinois?

This country is only going to become more socialist on a national level once the democrats take the stage.

Universal health care.

More taxes for the rich, and less for the middle class.

Means they're going to try to even the odds, which really means degrade society with more systems.

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Originally Posted by anachronistic [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I can't even read half of this post, for the record.

What makes a university so damn wonderful? I don't think it is the rating...

I don't think the value of education comes from the reputation of its school; it comes from you. Give anyone a place where they can learn something... and if they truly want to learn it, they will.

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Contributions to math and science, the average caliber of the student, the rigor of the courses, the atmosphere created by all these things combined creates a wonderful university

There is SO much that is gained by being at a university with top-notch students. The homework sets here are designed to be more difficult than the capabilities of the average student, so people usually work together to get through them. Do you have ANY idea how much learning goes on hearing ingenius recommendations and thoughts on how to go about some complex chemistry problem?

For reasons like that, online universities will NEVER be able to provide a top-notch education. Being immersed in the atmosphere gives so much. To me, that is part of where the tuition dollars go

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Originally Posted by anachronistic [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

By the way, how many of these universities will give you the ability to speak a foreign language fluently after 2 semesters? How about learning entire programming languages from scratch, in a month?

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This university gave me the ability to speak fluently in the language of organic chemistry in a way I would have NO WAY reached on my own

Meh. You know something, Fras? You should read up on West Virginian coal miners. See what they went through as little as a generation ago. See what happens when the bossman makes all the rules.

You can't trust people with absolute freedom.

Far as I'm concerned, if you have more money you can afford to give more. Big deal. And every child, regardless of how shitty their parents may be, has the right to food, shelter, education and medical care. I don't much care about adults. Once you hit 18 if you don't want to work, fine. Starve or die from exposure. Just do it away from the public eye.

NOTE: I am officially done giving out free thanks in this thread. I was trying to work my way out of a poor thanked-to-thanks ratio

I have an exam tomorrow and need to cover an entire chapter still

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Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

You are forgetting the fact that many of these Presidents werent actually country leaders. Presidential systems are different in different countries. USA is one of the rare one with its presidential power, just like Russia. Of course, there are tons of 3'rd world countries also, probably, but those aren't important right now.

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Since you mentioned Russia Boobaa, I would like to bring to your attention a millitaristics and expansionist Russian head of state. A leader who waged war with Ottoman Turkish empire winning major battles and securing access of Black sea annexing entire state of Crimea from the Turks. Won the war with Sweden. Invaded and partitioned Poland (With Germany and Austria) and played a big role in a whole range of other millitary victories for Russia at the time.

Who was this millitary genuis? It was no other than Catherine the Great, Empress of Russia [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_great[/url]

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

To be honest I actually like China. They deal with a lot of the same shit we do

And yeah, Japan definitely had the spread a decade ago. They ended up in a better place than being a superpower though, at least in my opinion.

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Yes, but Canadians don't fundamentally believe, in our hearts, that we are a superior *race* to Americans. :P

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

in a way I would have NO WAY reached on my own

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This is the shitty part of the education system I am talking about. :)

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Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Meh. You know something, Fras? You should read up on West Virginian coal miners. See what they went through as little as a generation ago. See what happens when the bossman makes all the rules.

You can't trust people with absolute freedom.

Far as I'm concerned, if you have more money you can afford to give more. Big deal. And every child, regardless of how shitty their parents may be, has the right to food, shelter, education and medical care. I don't much care about adults. Once you hit 18 if you don't want to work, fine. Starve or die from exposure. Just do it away from the public eye.

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I am pro-state regulation.

I am anti-federal regulation.

If states make their own laws, at least this way, people have a place to move to (within their own country), if they don't like their state's regulations.

There needs to be some level of regulation, or standard, but the federal government will not, and cannot do it better than each specific state can.

Haha, this one goes out to all the people that think women aren't fit for combat.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w84E6cmuuGU&feature=related[/ame]

I watched it three times :)

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Originally Posted by Frasbee [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

It's called welfare.

Bitch.

Means lazy lowlifes have nothing to worry about because the state will take care of them.

What do you know about Louisiana?

What do you know about Pennsylvania?

New Jersey?

or New York?

How about California, or Illinois?

This country is only going to become more socialist on a national level once the democrats take the stage.

Universal health care.

More taxes for the rich, and less for the middle class.

Means they're going to try to even the odds, which really means degrade society with more systems.

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Angry eh?

Capitalism it is. Nothing more. Capitalism can be unwealthy too, I didn't mention welfware. Oh, did you realize your country runs on immigrants?


And I don't know anything about Illinois or Louisiana, etc and frankly I don't care.

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Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Angry eh?

Capitalism it is. Nothing more. Capitalism can be unwealthy too, I didn't mention welfware. Oh, did you realize your country runs on immigrants?


And I don't know anything about Illinois or Louisiana, etc and frankly I don't care.

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Oh shut the f&%ck up.

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Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Won the war with Sweden.

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I'd call it "Repelled the Swedish invasion" :D Otherwise it sounds as if we actually lost something. Yes, yes, completely irrelevant but I felt like being picky.

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Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Who was this millitary genuis? It was no other than Catherine the Great, Empress of Russia [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_the_great[/url]

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Heinz Guderian was a smart military leader, not Catherine the Great

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Originally Posted by anachronistic [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Oh shut the f&%ck up.

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You are a smart person.

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Heinz Guderian was a smart military leader, not Catherine the Great

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They are two different roles, Guderian was a general, Catherine the Great was Empress / commander in chief. I thought this thread was about the later?

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Originally Posted by anachronistic [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

This is the shitty part of the education system I am talking about. :)

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I agree with you on that. If you need to be spoon-fed everything you learn from a prof, you're not as brilliant as you think.

I only attend my lectures when absolutely necessary....usually I self-teach, and I still get A's.

Oh, and I think it is completely fair to elect a female president and have her have a say in military dealings. There ARE women in the military too. Also, like Gribble said, I think a woman is more likely to care about the people she sends into war. A man in power is more likely to see them as warm bodies going in and taking one for the team.

Maybe it depends on the classes you are taking... I don't think there is much of a comparison between let's say English and organic chemistry, for example.

Lab sciences are a different thing.

I've done Statistics and Financial Accounting on my own.....and usually those two classes have a 40% fail rate when students actually attend class.

I'm far from being spoon-fed. The professors here don't do that. Like I said, they make the problem sets more difficult than what the average student is capable of. So, people get together in groups and work on them, bouncing ideas around each other. And these are a bunch of really smart kids, all with their wheels turning, rubbing off on each other

I think if you guys came here you would understand

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I'm far from being spoon-fed. The professors here don't do that. Like I said, they make the problem sets more difficult than what the average student is capable of. So, people get together in groups and work on them, bouncing ideas around each other. And these are a bunch of really smart kids, all with their wheels turning, rubbing off on each other

I think if you guys came here you would understand

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Actually, I don't need convincing. You are in an very elite university (amongst the most elite). You don't get there by being spoon-fed, especially with the subjects you are taking.

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I'm far from being spoon-fed. The professors here don't do that. Like I said, they make the problem sets more difficult than what the average student is capable of. So, people get together in groups and work on them, bouncing ideas around each other. And these are a bunch of really smart kids, all with their wheels turning, rubbing off on each other

I think if you guys came here you would understand

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We used to call it 'drinking water from a firehose'. I understand, DM.

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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I'm far from being spoon-fed. The professors here don't do that. Like I said, they make the problem sets more difficult than what the average student is capable of. So, people get together in groups and work on them, bouncing ideas around each other. And these are a bunch of really smart kids, all with their wheels turning, rubbing off on each other

I think if you guys came here you would understand

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I *wished* I had the opportunity to study there. I am really starting to get into science, especially the whole Mars/NASA stuff. I have been reading a lot of mineral science, and a lot of my study on color theory has a lot to do with color vision... therefore I study a lot of theories in that area. In fact I have been developing a type of vehicle for a while that may revolutionize transportation :D

Unfortunately, I do not have the money to attend, and probably never will. But I will be damned if I don't end up as successful as I think I will be, even if I don't pay the millions of dollars of tuition and attend a highly credited school.

I am sure I will get an opportunity to attend one of the nicer schools if I get a chance at my PhD like I am hoping for.