You all need to be punched in your throats

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Originally Posted by Wakeup [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Yes I did, what is your point about asking me if I did?

I am telling you what (as a woman) makes me ready for sex whenever my husband is ready. He still has game. My Point you ask? Perhaps the ones who you think built up false expectations, did not actually bait and switch but have simply lost some interest do to lack of the same things occurring which occurred when you were first trying to get into their pants. Woman aren't like men, we don't get horny when a soft breeze blows by. Well, perhaps those with sexual addictions and emotional issues from childhood may????

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I know it wasn't that way for me. Damn near the minute we moved in together, the sex went away. All I could think is that she figured she had me and didn't have to anymore. After six months of it I brought it up and got "What problem?" and she refused to discuss it at all.

This is illustrative of what I (and Incognito) are talking about:

The FIRST TIME after we moved in together that we had sex, I found out that she didn't like having her tits played with, and I wasn't allowed to anymore. Not a hint, not a peep until the night we moved in together. Soon as we did they were off limits. How ELSE can you interpret that? I'm not saying all women are like that, or even the majority of them, but there are indeed women out there like that.

^^^ I have to ask why you would stay in a relationship with a woman who is such a liar then? You mean you always played with her breasts until you married her and then she said to stop?

*sighs* I've never met a woman (or a man that was married to one) like her. Do these woman have psychological problems? Have they been abused as children? Are they just like that because?

I can see why Incognito asked if he should just give up... Sorry I was not seeing the picture.

Thanks for clarifying, HIA.

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Originally Posted by Wakeup [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

^^^ I have to ask why you would stay in a relationship with a woman who is such a liar then? You mean you always played with her breasts until you married her and then she said to stop?

*sighs* I've never met a woman (or a man that was married to one) like her. Do these woman have psycholotigal problems? Have they been abused as children? Are they just like that because?

I can see why Incognito asked if he should just give up... Sorry I was not seeing the picture.

Thanks for clarifying, HIA.

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I stayed because I foolishly hoped that we could talk about things and get things fixed. It took a long time to realize that she'd really just stopped pretending and things were they way they were because that's how she really was.

I was actually ready to walk out, and the night I was going to have "the talk" with her, she told me she was pregnant. As I'd already had one kid grow up elsewhere from me, I wasn't willing to quit... I wanted to be with my son. That was 8 years ago. We cohabited for a long time, but had separate sleeping arrangements for at least the last 5 years. We never married - some people I knew would ask occasionally and I'd tell them frankly that there would be ice-skating in hell before that happened.

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Originally Posted by HeartIsAching [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I was actually ready to walk out, and the night I was going to have "the talk" with her, she told me she was pregnant.

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How did she become pregnant? Was she on the pill? Did you pull out? Condom break?

Just wondering because my best friend is in a crappy relationship and wants to leave but she became pregnant. thing is he came IN her, yet he was still surprised she got pregnant. How do you cum IN an unprotected chick and not think there might be consequences? I have another good friend that did the exact same thing as well and I cant get a straight answer out of them beside "in the moment" excuse!

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Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

How did she become pregnant? Was she on the pill? Did you pull out? Condom break?

Just wondering because my best friend is in a crappy relationship and wants to leave but she became pregnant. thing is he came IN her, yet he was still surprised she got pregnant. How do you cum IN an unprotected chick and not think there might be consequences? I have another good friend that did the exact same thing as well and I cant get a straight answer out of them beside "in the moment" excuse!

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We had drunk sex on Halloween. Once, in about 6 months... and two months later right after Christmas, she told me she thought she was pregnant. It'd been so long, I asked who the father was, because I didn't think it was me.

^ and it actually turned out to be you.. or did you never get a paternity test?

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Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

^ and it actually turned out to be you.. or did you never get a paternity test?

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Yeah, it was me. No paternity test, but he looks like me.

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Originally Posted by Incognito [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Nope. My dating days are over. I've been married for seven years. -sigh-

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Now I have to ask... Had she always been like that? for seven fukin years?! ...if she was why would you put up with that behavior?
I know that you should try to make your relationship work... but seven years?!

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Originally Posted by Incognito [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

On my situation yes, but not on females in general who feign a high sex dive when they know that they don't have one.

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I don't think they should be punched in the throat, LOL. But I also think there's no need to pretend anything. There is just as wide a range of sex drives in M-F, so there is 'someone for everyone' as the saying goes.

I think the problem is many females are attracted to the benefits of a high-testosterone, high-achieving male partner. Which usually goes along with a high sex drive. Its damn useful for stress release. And guys, lets face it, respond well to good sex. Problems happen when the woman 'gets' the man and her true sex drive becomes known. Or the male puts in less emotional effort, or a combination of both. If the woman is a ditz, boring, irritating or any number of other things then its just that much worse b/c they have nothing else in common except sex.

So, its the guys fault for choosing a partner based on sex as well, IMO. A woman certainly chooses based on more than how he is in the sack.

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Originally Posted by HeartIsAching [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I know it wasn't that way for me. Damn near the minute we moved in together, the sex went away. All I could think is that she figured she had me and didn't have to anymore. After six months of it I brought it up and got "What problem?" and she refused to discuss it at all.

This is illustrative of what I (and Incognito) are talking about:

The FIRST TIME after we moved in together that we had sex, I found out that she didn't like having her tits played with, and I wasn't allowed to anymore. Not a hint, not a peep until the night we moved in together. Soon as we did they were off limits. How ELSE can you interpret that? I'm not saying all women are like that, or even the majority of them, but there are indeed women out there like that.

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This is weird.

But then, maybe there were other reasons for her not wanting to have sex anymore? I mean I really don't see a point in "having" a man that you don't even want to have sex with.
Perhaps she was very self-conscious before you moved in and thought that if she didn't have a lot of sex with you (including breast fondling), you wouldn't have liked her enough, but then when you moved in she realized you loved her anyway and didn't have to pretend anymore. It's still not a good thing to do of course, I mean it's just a symptom of very low self-esteem and it's just counterproductive in the long run, but at least she wouldn't have done it "on purpose" to "trap" you or something.
Or else it may be that moving in together actually lowered her sex drive cause, as Wakeup said in previous posts, there weren't the same conditions that used to be there while you didn't live together, or something.

One thing is certain - if she planned to not have sex with you at all, I really don't get why she would've wanted to be your girlfriend (as opposed to friend), let alone live together as a couple! o.O

Okay, so instead of doing nothing like you normally do when you post threads about your wife and/or shitty sex life, do something.

Go punch your wife in the throat. Knuckles straight to the esophagus. That'll learn her.

You know what pisses me off?... Men that do the same, that are all talk and allow you to assume from that talk that they are sexual and have a high sex drive, yet they never maintain this.
Seriously, I have never met a guy that can satisfy my sex drive for more than a few months. So every guy like that should have a punch in the throat.

I completely agree with what I think Vashti outlined as the vicious cycle earlier... I don't know that it's fair to punish a woman for wanting sex and romance to go together - however, I don't personally find I always need that.

The only time I've ever gone off sex with a boyfriend - because usually I cannot get enough from them, and feel like the one who is being deprived of it - was when I was on the pill and my boyfriend let himself go (put on weight, stopped working out, quit grooming himself properly).

I don't know if you've been keeping up your appearance as usual... if not, you might try spiffing up for your lady, making a small romantic overture and see what happens? Maybe she'll start jumping your bones again?

Id say its bad for women to purposely cut sex out once they have you in their grips, but its also bad for guys to pretend to love a woman until he's done having his way with her :/ They need to get punched down their throats as well.
"Women might be able to fake orgasms, but men can fake a whole relationship." - Sharon Stone

Im still not understanding how a healthy woman under, say, 35, can be a sex camel, going years without sex. Even if you have no love and respect for the person you're with, wouldn't you eventually become horny and use their body for the hell of it or look elsewhere? I know us women dont need it as often as men but its not like we never get horny

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Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I don't think they should be punched in the throat, LOL. But I also think there's no need to pretend anything. There is just as wide a range of sex drives in M-F, so there is 'someone for everyone' as the saying goes.

I think the problem is many females are attracted to the benefits of a high-testosterone, high-achieving male partner. Which usually goes along with a high sex drive. Its damn useful for stress release. And guys, lets face it, respond well to good sex. Problems happen when the woman 'gets' the man and her true sex drive becomes known. Or the male puts in less emotional effort, or a combination of both. If the woman is a ditz, boring, irritating or any number of other things then its just that much worse b/c they have nothing else in common except sex.

So, its the guys fault for choosing a partner based on sex as well, IMO. A woman certainly chooses based on more than how he is in the sack.

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Even though I was indirectly referencing my situation I was speaking in general about women who do that. I'd never punch a woman in the throat for not having sex with me, lol.

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Originally Posted by MerryH [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Okay, so instead of doing nothing like you normally do when you post threads about your wife and/or shitty sex life, do something.

Go punch your wife in the throat. Knuckles straight to the esophagus. That'll learn her.

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Again, I was pissed when I wrote the title and was not truly meaning that any woman should be punched in the throat for not having sex :) I know that everyone is tired of my "doing nothing" about this situation, which is why I didn't really reference my situation directly (although it was the driving force behind my writing this thread). My "doing nothing" is actually me trying to do the right thing, as laughable as that may be to most of you. I can't sit here and say that I'll never leave or never cheat because, after all, I am human and I have needs that aren't being met. Until that moment of weakness comes though I will try not to leave or cheat. Getting back to what I was trying to keep this thread about was women [in general] who knowingly deceive their partners into believing that thry are more sexual than they actually are. I am glad that HIA explained what I was trying to say better than I had been.

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Originally Posted by tremolo [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I completely agree with what I think Vashti outlined as the vicious cycle earlier... I don't know that it's fair to punish a woman for wanting sex and romance to go together - however, I don't personally find I always need that.

The only time I've ever gone off sex with a boyfriend - because usually I cannot get enough from them, and feel like the one who is being deprived of it - was when I was on the pill and my boyfriend let himself go (put on weight, stopped working out, quit grooming himself properly).

I don't know if you've been keeping up your appearance as usual... if not, you might try spiffing up for your lady, making a small romantic overture and see what happens? Maybe she'll start jumping your bones again?

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As far as I am concerned, yes I started working out in 2007 and got myself into excellent shape. I either kept myself trimmed or shaved everywhere too. I didn't matter. In fact she'd tell me to stop working out and sit and watch tv. That was when I simply had to keep working out so that I'd be satisfied with my own personal appearance because it didn't matter to her. And yes, I agree that anyone (male or female) should be allowed to enjoy sex and romance at the same time. The trouble is that some women stop "pretending" (as heartisaching put it) after a relationship has been established and still expect to be romanced. It seems that, more commonly, one or both partners "slow down". Either a man will stop being as romantic, or the woman will stop being as sexual. Usually this isn't on purpose, as many have pointed out.

Life is way too short to live without our basic needs being met by someone who swore to love, honor and cherish us till death do us part. So...you either man up and tell her this behavior is unacceptable any longer and she will either start making sure your ass comes home at night to her or you will be looking for someone else who will love to get down and dirty with you. Or...start pretend that everything is honky dory and find yourself a girlfriend on the side.

You're letting this woman sour you on women and life in general.

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Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Im still not understanding how a healthy woman under, say, 35, can be a sex camel, going years without sex.

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I liked your post, except for this. It's a LOT easier to go without sex when you are in your 20s than in your 30s. A woman's sex drive doesn't peak till later (mid 30s), and then she is usually the equivalent of a teenage boy..

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Originally Posted by Incognito [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Yeah I said it... Knuckles straight to the esophagus. "But who?" you might ask. Well I'm referring to women who either lead on that they have a sex drive knowing that they don't, or women that say they have physical needs but only ever address sex from a romantic standpoint.

I've been so freakin pissed off lately about that. How can you look me in my eyes and say "oh, but I do have physical needs" and NEVER EVER breathe a word about these supposed needs? Then you whine about not enough romance.... No f*cking duh there isn't any romance if there is NEVER EVER any sex. Then after lengthy debate about the subject you still insist that you have physical needs, but only want sex if you feel romanced? Yeah, so I was 200% right in that you have no purely physical needs. Your needs are all emotional and you just [go along] with sex if you feel romanced. F*ucking bullsh*t!

I seriously felt like I was about to go postal in the store the other day because of this...

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you can punch me in the throat and it will be okay. i am immune to you little feeble women because i am a MAN hahaha


raverboy

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Originally Posted by Incognito [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Getting back to what I was trying to keep this thread about was women [in general] who knowingly deceive their partners into believing that thry are more sexual than they actually are.

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I still don't think that such women exist...

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It seems that, more commonly, one or both partners "slow down". Either a man will stop being as romantic, or the woman will stop being as sexual. Usually this isn't on purpose, as many have pointed out.

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Exactly - not on purpose. :/

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Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I liked your post, except for this. It's a LOT easier to go without sex when you are in your 20s than in your 30s. A woman's sex drive doesn't peak till later (mid 30s), and then she is usually the equivalent of a teenage boy..

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Really?! :astonish:

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Originally Posted by vampiress [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Really?! :astonish:

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yeah, i pull bs on vashti's post. it was much harder for my 20s then it is now.

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Originally Posted by Sonrisa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

yeah, i pull bs on vashti's post. it was much harder for my 20s then it is now.

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What was harder? The boys? That's because their drive diminishes in the 30s. ;)

The research was conducted by Alfred Kinsey, if you are interested. A lot of it has to do with the fact that women in their 30s orgasm more often than in their 20s, but this may be due to the fact that women in their 30s are more comfortable in their own skin, have more self-confidence, and have learned how to make sex more enjoyable. Their lovers tend to be more skilled, too. They don't call them the "dirty 30s" for nothing.

Here's another theory: [url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2007422,00.html]Study: Why Older Women Have Higher Sex Drive - TIME[/url]

I think if you are in your 30s, it's a matter of use it or lose it, but if you are using it, you can never get enough.

a high sex drive has to be inspired. if you treat a woman badly, her sex drive will diminish. if you do it right though, you can have your own person little hoochie mama.

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Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

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What was harder? The boys? That's because their drive diminishes in the 30s. ;)

The research was conducted by Alfred Kinsey, if you are interested. A lot of it has to do with the fact that women in their 30s orgasm more often than in their 20s, but this may be due to the fact that women in their 30s are more comfortable in their own skin, have more self-confidence, and have learned how to make sex more enjoyable. Their lovers tend to be more skilled, too. They don't call them the "dirty 30s" for nothing.

Here's another theory: [url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2007422,00.html]Study: Why Older Women Have Higher Sex Drive - TIME[/url]

I think if you are in your 30s, it's a matter of use it or lose it, but if you are using it, you can never get enough.

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It's been my perception as a man that this is definitely true.

I may have"peaked" somewhere in my early 20's, but I didn't noticeably diminish in my 30's... but by 40 it was evident.

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Originally Posted by rainydayznnight [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Life is way too short to live without our basic needs being met by someone who swore to love, honor and cherish us till death do us part. So...you either man up and tell her this behavior is unacceptable any longer and she will either start making sure your ass comes home at night to her or you will be looking for someone else who will love to get down and dirty with you. Or...start pretend that everything is honky dory and find yourself a girlfriend on the side.

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Man up by taking the moral low ground? No cheating for me as long as I can help it. I do appreciate your willingness to help though.

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Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

You're letting this woman sour you on women and life in general.

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This I have to agree with. Last month was a terrible month, THE WHOLE MONTH, and why? All because of this situation. It didn't help that there is a hot woman at work who knows my situation and is still interested (not in cheating, but interested in me in general).

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Originally Posted by Illusional [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

you can punch me in the throat and it will be okay. i am immune to you little feeble women because i am a MAN hahaha


raverboy

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Hahaha.... maybe I'm misunderstanding? I think you'd be visiting the hospital with a displaced trachea if I punched you in the throat. Physical ability has nothing to do with morality, nor are higher morals an indicator of weakness. K? Good try on giving advice though [claps sarcastically].... You can exit the stage behind the curtain on the left... Don't call us, we'll call you [wink]

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Originally Posted by searock [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I still don't think that such women exist...



Exactly - not on purpose. :/

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You seem like the kind of person who is either denying this because you fit the description, and are therefore offended at my assertion, or you are one of those thick headed people who only believe what you want to believe. In any case... yeah you're totally right, everyone else has no idea what they're talking about unless it 100% coincides with what you've said. Yay you.

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Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I think if you are in your 30s, it's a matter of use it or lose it, but if you are using it, you can never get enough.

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This is so, so true. When I was 20-21, my sex drive was insane. I thought i had hit my sexual peak - and ironically, I had no one to indulge that drive with, because I had no boyfriend.

Now that I'm 30, I'm experiencing that very same thing again - only it's way more intense now. It is actually kind of a problem because it's making me really counterproductive.

I have got to find a boyfriend soon.

OP - How old is your wife?? Maybe you have something to look forward to? :)

I feel like a lot of men *think* we are leading on when we aren't...

Either way, you're not gonna die from it

I vote that you cheat on her, or at least separate from her first, then go sleep w/ the hot girl from work. Then get back with your wife if you still feel like it. No cheating necessary.

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Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

The research was conducted by Alfred Kinsey, if you are interested. A lot of it has to do with the fact that women in their 30s orgasm more often than in their 20s, but this may be due to the fact that women in their 30s are more comfortable in their own skin, have more self-confidence, and have learned how to make sex more enjoyable. Their lovers tend to be more skilled, too. They don't call them the "dirty 30s" for nothing.

Here's another theory: [url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2007422,00.html]Study: Why Older Women Have Higher Sex Drive - TIME[/url]

I think if you are in your 30s, it's a matter of use it or lose it, but if you are using it, you can never get enough.

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Yes, yes. Now, will all you ladies in your 30s raise your hands ? I'm conducting a clinical study on female sexuality, please write down your addresses and phone numbers here ... :P:D

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Originally Posted by searock [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I still don't think that such women exist...



Exactly - not on purpose. :/

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So am I a liar, or am I stupid?

I can't wait til I'm 30

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Originally Posted by rainydayznnight [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Or...start pretend that everything is honky dory and find yourself a girlfriend on the side.

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Seriously?! .. Are you telling the man to go cheat on his wife?! why?.. so she could turn the tables and play the victim role while he's become the bad guy! ...

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Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I think if you are in your 30s, it's a matter of use it or lose it, but if you are using it, you can never get enough.

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I agree with this wholeheartedly. I've always had a healthy sex drive, but when I hit 35 it went through the roof! It's not calming down at all either. Shame I'm not seeing anyone if just for the release. ;)

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Originally Posted by Way2Roux [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I can't wait til I'm 30

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I can...I'm not in a hurry

30's a piece of cake. Still felt like I did at 17. 40 not so much. My dad says 60 isn't an improvement.

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Originally Posted by HeartIsAching [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

30's a piece of cake. Still felt like I did at 17. 40 not so much. My dad says 60 isn't an improvement.

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80 year old man marries 20 year old girl. On wedding night, they get in bed to consummate their marriage.
Old man holds up 5 fingers. Young girl was impressed. "5 times tonight ?"
"No. Which finger ?"

;)

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Originally Posted by asdfg789 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

80 year old man marries 20 year old girl. On wedding night, they get in bed to consummate their marriage.
Old man holds up 5 fingers. Young girl was impressed. "5 times tonight ?"
"No. Which finger ?"

;)

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:emot15:

Man! .....

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Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

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What was harder? The boys? That's because their drive diminishes in the 30s. ;)

The research was conducted by Alfred Kinsey, if you are interested. A lot of it has to do with the fact that women in their 30s orgasm more often than in their 20s, but this may be due to the fact that women in their 30s are more comfortable in their own skin, have more self-confidence, and have learned how to make sex more enjoyable. Their lovers tend to be more skilled, too. They don't call them the "dirty 30s" for nothing.

Here's another theory: [url=http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2007422,00.html]Study: Why Older Women Have Higher Sex Drive - TIME[/url]

I think if you are in your 30s, it's a matter of use it or lose it, but if you are using it, you can never get enough.

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i meant harder to go without it in the 20s