Should I rephrase? The majority of young minds? Of course there is going to be a rare few not in this category like yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
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Should I rephrase? The majority of young minds? Of course there is going to be a rare few not in this category like yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
It could be I'm misunderstanding your point. Mine is that I don't think 'young minds' are incapable of this. Beyond age 20+ I don't think its a developmental thing, its an educational issue--to be taught that its an efficient way to get what one wants. Have you read some of the young entrepreneurs projects out there? These are teenagers who understand very well this simple idea: Think hard about your situation, figure out what you want, then figure out how to get it.
Most parents hope that their kids will have clear thinking, but most have to fall down a few dozen times before it sinks in, then only to hear mom and dad say "See! I told ya so!"." Listen to me next time...I'm trying to knock some sense into you" lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Smackie, I think we aren't on the same page here. What age are you calling 'kids'? Thinking is hard work, but worth it for the future problems it avoids. Like early investing. Parents must train children to it so its part of their adult nature (i.e. 'hope' has nothing to do with it). This really isn't rocket science, is it?
Personally, I don't like it when it is ended with a "jk", it takes the whole thing away. I like it more as a command.Quote:
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Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Parents tell me their kids won't listen to them half the time and all the silly things they have done that don't make sense to them......I remember when I was like that, I made stupid mistakes, made bad choices...and I learned. I say most of it falls on deaf ears. I hear it all the time from the parents I work with and close friends....it seems not much has change in twenty, thirty years.
You don't have children? Okay, that explains things. I do, and I can tell you what I'm saying seems to work (so far at least). I admit, our parenting style may be atypical, tho.
I'm not talking about parenting styles, I'm just talking about day to day norm of what I have seen from this age group. Even tho I'm not a parent I do give the mom talk to a lot of young people that come though our doors and on line. It can be from anything like birthcontrol to getting an education, or invest the 10 grand they just got from Gramma........like I said falls on deaf ears. So many still live at home or live with their GF's parents , don't have a driver's license....just no abition......tunnel vision. Some had their first child a 17, 18.....gives me the shivers just thinking about it. Oh and they are not with that partner anymore of course....too much short sightedness.
On the rare occasion we see a kid with their head on straight, hard working, real respectful, has common sense, stable, has their shit together......I say rare.
So are you saying that the parents of this generation fail?
I guess in a way. The average kid today is exposed to so much more than our generation ever was, and with much less guidance. Kudos to you for trying to bridge that gap but, as you know, if the parents aren't engaged its difficult to find traction. Kids get a lot of their self-esteem from their parents, so when they get the message they [parents] can't be bothered, what hope for the child? Only thing you can do is give them principles to apply to their selfish desires that seems to have worked for another role model they respect. Its my strategy anyway, but I'm prepared to try another if I can be convinced its better.Quote:
Originally Posted by smackie9 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I am calling BS on this one. Men do not view such women as "easy", nor do they feel "emasculated" coz "their role is taken away".Quote:
Originally Posted by smackie9 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I hate to say this but...: you can't have a cake and eat it. You can't have a man "be a man" when it suits you (courting, protection, paying for you) and "not be a man" when it does not (when he does something that you will then arbitrarily qualify as "offensive to 'women'"). Men in general have woken up to this, which is why you have so many "liberated" and angry (unattractive or uninteresting to men) women.Quote:
Originally Posted by sadie_genie [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
@ Smackie9
Hi Smackie, a question, if you don' t mind, why do you post so much under "ask a male"? you are not a male, are you?
I have noticed females have this tendency to offer advice on how to be a man, what a man feels, how he acts on those feelings... you seem to "know" so much about men's values, etc... why is this? Do you really think you know what it is to be a man?
Would it not be more polite to let men post here without you offering your $ 0,02 with such astounding frequency? Would it not be better for female posters who post here looking for advice?
it's not just me bud, their are other females that post on here too so don't just single me out. Like I'm going to listen to you anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sixpacj [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Anyways this thread already long ended like a month ago.
Why not? Doesn't the double standard apply equally to men? Lots of guys out there who want their women to 'be women' when it suits (sex, maintaining a beautiful home, raising children) but also expect them to do the traditional male job of 'bringing home the bacon'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sixpacj [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Why do you think this is 'having ones cake and eating it too'? Why can't both sexes simply ask for what they want and have some likely chance of getting it? Especially if one is willing to give something back in exchange?
I'm a female professional with a good income. I'm a great mom, cook and manager of my home and finances. I'm a fun companion, in bed and out. Is it wrong that I expect my husband (who is also a professional) is likewise handy around the home, fun, and gives me some attention of the sort a female enjoys? Who's getting the crappy end of this deal?
Indeed! ...Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I am not singling you out, I wrote "I have noticed females have this tendency..." I took you as an example cause you have written a lot in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by smackie9 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
And, pray tell, why would you not listen to me?
Coz if you listen to me, without instantly shoving down down my throat your view of everything, or rather your emotion, that will be construed as you agreeing with me? You don't have to agree with me. Don't agree with me on what it means to be female. But as regards "being male", I still think I know better, just by dint of having a set of testes that produce testosterone.
Is this what you do in such "ask a male" threads? You try to "police" the general view/vibe/emotion so it is not "dangerous" to you... Hm... I should starts writing under "ask a female", so everything is more in line with what *I think females should* be thinking and feeling...
Good point in general and I'd tend to agree. As long as you don't claim that "men are biologically wired to pursue", or some other crap, while at the same time balking at "women are biologically wired to reproduce, take care of offspring, and stay at home".Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
They actually are. Both men to pursue and women to nurture. Did you want me to provide proof in the form of genetics and biochemical papers to support this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sixpacj [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Or is the the word 'balking' that is key? I don't balk at it in the slightest. I know what my strengths are and I'm very prepared to admit that, in a house fire, I definitely want the hulking, testosterone-build fireman to rescue my family over a woman allowed that job b/c of equal opportunity legislation.
Good point in general and I'd tend to agree. As long as you don't claim that "men are biologically wired to pursue", or some other crap, while at the same time balking at "women are biologically wired to reproduce, take care of offspring, and stay at home".Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I know this, smartass ;-) . I think you either agree with it or you question it altogether. But I have a slight problem with people who brandish "biological determinism" when it suits them, and totally question it when it does not. Try saying it in the so-called Western "mainstream media" that "women are biologically wired to do whatever". Wait and watch the ensuing indignation...Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Shrug. I say it all the time. I can get away w/it b/c I'm a woman, I guess. It sure wasn't my husband who gave birth to our child. The day he (or rather a man) can do that is the day I leave earth to start a lesbian colony at one of the Lagrangian Points, I guess.
what is your point? that you are a woman? that women give birth? we all know that...
Yes, and therefore there is no such thing as 'equality' b/t men and women. Its a stupid concept. There are always differences. Just negotiate for the ones you like.Quote:
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If women weren't so passive, the world would be a better place.
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Be careful what you wish for.....lol
By women, I mean mountain lions.Quote:
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