Racism Dialogue

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Originally Posted by misombra

so much for la raza cosmica.

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lol..

well anyway, here are two identity questions i have.

here's a man, his father is chinese, but from indonesia, his mother is english (as in from england). he was born in england.

what is he? what if he was to become an american citizen? or canadian?

girl, she is born in brazil, her father is japanese, but i don't know how many of his generations have lived in barzil, her mother is chinese. i believe they are citizens of brazil. however, they then move to america. what is she?

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Originally Posted by misombra

it's kind of a known thing that cubans and puerto ricans don't like mexicans.

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I always thought it was the Haitians that they didn't like?

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Originally Posted by artyemi

lol..

well anyway, here are two identity questions i have.

here's a man, his father is chinese, but from indonesia, his mother is english (as in from england). he was born in england.

what is he? what if he was to become an american citizen? or canadian?

girl, she is born in brazil, her father is japanese, but i don't know how many of his generations have lived in barzil, her mother is chinese. i believe they are citizens of brazil. however, they then move to america. what is she?

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The man is British, the girl is Brazilian. The country of birth dictates the culture and the identity primarily (However it depends on how many years they lived in the country of birth - definetely true for anything over 15 years from the time of birth). Alternative identities will be the ones inherited from the most dominant parental identeties, popular culture and from personal persuasion and experience.

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Originally Posted by artyemi

lol..

well anyway, here are two identity questions i have.

here's a man, his father is chinese, but from indonesia, his mother is english (as in from england). he was born in england.

what is he? what if he was to become an american citizen? or canadian?

girl, she is born in brazil, her father is japanese, but i don't know how many of his generations have lived in barzil, her mother is chinese. i believe they are citizens of brazil. however, they then move to america. what is she?

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1) By nationality he would be classed as "English". Ethcinity wise, I doubt he could call himself either chinese or cacausian because he isn't fully either thus the birth of the word "eurasian". But what are you asking? What is he to the general public? or what is he to himself? Because you'll find you'll get 2 complete different answers. Regardless he becomes an American citizen, he was born in England therefore he is English.

2) Nationality "Brazillian". Ethcinity "Jap/Chin". Same thing applies.

Kiechi----1) Wouldn't you put British when filling out forms? Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by Chlorine

Kiechi----1) Wouldn't you put British when filling out forms? Just a thought.

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Forms here the options normally are:

British - White
British- Asian
British - Black

Bla bla bla...

But I don't see myself falling into any of those, so I tick the option "Asian mixed white".

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Originally Posted by Late_vamp

see Aztec and Mayans were rivals , thats before America and all that bs slavery .
Aztecs = Mexican descendants
Mayans = Guatemala , El Salvador , Honduras and lots of other countries descendants
Incas = Peru and other countrys

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Incans represent!

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Originally Posted by Tone

Incans represent!

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Tony , arent you american ?

or you come from south america also ?

My mom is 100% american, my dad is 100% Peruvian. So I'm a halfy.

I lived in Peru for 2 years when I was real little, spanish was my first language before english, I wanna go back again someday.

....I'm goin' back someday, come what may, to Blue Bayouoooo...

Tell her to go suck on a Mexican c ock.

Kiechi---"British - White; British- Asian; British - Black.....But I don't see myself falling into any of those, so I tick the option "Asian mixed white".

Shocked! Defining it by British-White, British-Asian...marks a difference. Nationality should be about the country no? British=British=British. Under Race, than mark Caucasian, Asian etc etc. You ought to write to the Immigration department and complain.

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Originally Posted by Tone

My mom is 100% american, my dad is 100% Peruvian. So I'm a halfy.

I lived in Peru for 2 years when I was real little, spanish was my first language before english, I wanna go back again someday.

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no supe q espan~ol fuera tu lengua materna! dios mio porque no me dijites?

and yeah, it's all about the aztecas.

lo siento, mami!

pero cuando mi padre alejarse, habia ninguno hablar espanol contigo ;[

LV, I use to work with a bunch of people from Guatemala, they helped me touch up my spanish ;p

donde se fue tu papa? regreso' a peru?

They taught me this song:

La cucaracha, la cucaracha, ya no puede caminar,
porque le falta, porque le falta,
marijuana que fumar
cha-cha-cha!

no, mudarse a Los Angeles

porque? sus padres divorcieron?

si :[

Quiero entrar "Espanol101" (?) en escuela porque mi recuerdo es terible..

estas haciendo bien. mi espanol no es perfecto. si nomas fuera aqui el siempre me corregia.

How do you say, "Worst thread ever" in Spanish?

LoL!

si, pero nomas es muy muy sexy!

aye... como se dice "ashamed"?

necesito practicar mas... me gusta si seniora Marqui me hablas en espanol ! ^_^

avergonzado=ashamed.

no se como se dice 'thread' como lo usamos aqui.

LoL

ah, gracias.. quiero una novia puede hablar espanol muy bien - para que ayudame! ^_^

tiene que venir al suroeste para que puedes encontrarla.

te voy a llamar "tony tone montana". lol

LoL no pensas que encontrarse con ella en Nebraska? ;P

eres la unica persona latina en tu estao.

LoL, pero es posible... con un poquito suerte!!

imposible.
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Ok Ok Ok! tengo que venir a la casa de misombra ayudar a limpio (?) su casa!

claro q si toni! ayudame limpar!!!!

LOL you're a cute one, sombra ;]

tu novio no se gusta...

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Originally Posted by tooxshort

i have grown up with racism ...

but now, i think almost everyone i know has a prejudice to a certain race ... and sometimes, when someone of a certain race does something to offend me, i blame them all ... i know it's the wrong way, but it has become a conditioned response for me ...

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I used to believe that not everyone was prejudiced, but I am not so confident anymore. People who you'd least expect to hear a bigoted comment from come out of the blue and say something dumb (usually in the form of a joke) and become defensive and hostile if called on it. It's never that they said something stupid, it is always that you can't take a joke, as if people should be expected to laugh at and participate in their own negative, offensive characterizations.

In any case, I think these situations tend to reinforce a person's preference for associating with others that are like themselves. Why should anyone want to put up with that?

There's an awful lot of loosely applied language in this thread which makes it impossible for me for make any meaningful contribution to it. Prejudice isn't the same as bigotry isn't the same as racism isn't the same negative isn't the same as offensive isn't the same characterization isn't the same as compatibility, but everyone seems to be using the words and concepts as if they are all the same thing. All in all, it sounds as if everyone's just expressing knee-jerk reactions instead of offering reasoned responses.

I will say this: The very word "race" as it's being applied here is, itself, racist. There are no such things as separate human races. They don't exist.

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Originally Posted by Tone

lo siento, mami!

pero cuando mi padre alejarse, habia ninguno hablar espanol contigo ;[

LV, I use to work with a bunch of people from Guatemala, they helped me touch up my spanish ;p

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thats great to hear . were they friendly ( we can be pretty mean to peruvians sometimes) ?

ay , Misombra I Tone , me estan matando las orejas . El espagnol que utilisan es muy malo . deberian de practicarce mas .

I tambien thread es tema en espagnol

THREAD = TEMA

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Originally Posted by whaywardj

I will say this: The very word "race" as it's being applied here is, itself, racist. There are no such things as separate human races. They don't exist.

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i agree with this , race , its not like were THAT different , basically color and small things as eye shape and hair . culture is different than race but its always associated as the same thing , hence stereotypes and other general remarks .

Yeah they were real cool with me.. we joked around all the time.

And yea yea yea... the worse part is if we were talkin face to face I'd be even worse.. but here where I can read it slow, and have time to think of how to remember to say things.. makes me almost seem like I know what I'm talkin about (despite all the errors)

If I can I'm gonna take more classes... although it's kind of embarrassing to not even know your own language fluently.. but hey that's what happens when you grow up with all english speaking people ;[