I know I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
And I will.
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I know I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
And I will.
You can write him in and vote for him, but you'd be throwing away your vote.
Pick the lesser of the two evils. No matter how much you hate the candidates, there must be one you think is worse than the other. I don't get it. So many people voted for Nader knowing full well he wouldn't win. Had they picked a candidate who actually stood a chance Bush might not ever have been in office.
You're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Someone is gonna be president, regardless of whether I vote or not.
So why bother?
That kind of train of thought undermines the ideal democracy.
I didn't say don't bother voting.
I said vote for one of the two candidates who stands a chance of winning the election. Your vote still matters. Assuming McCain is the candidate most in line with your views, it's one less vote for him. It may as well be a vote for Obama.
They're both faggots.
I'm voting Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is a crazy old gold prospectorQuote:
Originally Posted by Frasbee [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
You vote for him
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
You can't make me.
I'm voting for McCain. He's the better candidate...
I can see your reasoning behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeTroit_4Win [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
...Oh wait.
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Originally Posted by DeTroit_4Win [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
he's a loser, so are you.
vote obama.
Said by a Swede and thanked by a BritQuote:
Originally Posted by Lipp [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Obama is gonna be like the Jimmy Carter of the 2000s
As in urging him to say why he would go for McCain rather than Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
It's like somewhat critiquing your assignment - Either they can just say "It sucks" which doesn't help at all, or they can say why.
You wouldn't have the same response (the sarcasm) if "McCain" was changed with "Obama"
ps. vote for obama.
Seeing as the thread already includes videos of him explaining what he's aiming for, well, no.
lmao misombra :)
You know, I kind of like the feeling of misombra exerting her power over me and doing with me as she pleases... :)
Just found something to be a bit curious. Isn't McCain's main (or at least one of) criticism of Obama that he's inexperienced?
And now Sarah Palin is defending herself against the same claim being directed towards herself.
Politics are strange.
:surprised
Vote for Obama.
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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
That's what I worry about.
I hope you Obama lovers love Unions.
Unions are awesome, they are the reason we have 8 hour working days (instead of 12), no more "Master and Servant" act, sick leave, maternity leave, annual leave, worker's rights and other things most people take for granted
Vote for Obama
Unions are for people in specialized fields. It protects those people. When I get through all of my schooling, I'll be joining a CRNA union. When I worked in construction as a sprinkler fitter (the sprinkler systems in buildings in case of fire), I was going to be in a union. I'm actually a bit surprised that an electrician wouldn't want to join a union.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frasbee [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
You have to pay dues, regardless whether you're working or not.
If you don't have work, you sit in the hall and wait for it.
They're also extremely political, and members have been hazed into voting democratic, just because.
Also, as an apprentice, I can't get a raise, except for every 12 months, a non-union shop I can make more money faster if I work hard. Also, I would be obligated to go to school, and union shops don't want to pay for someone's school if that person is just going to up and leave for a different city.
Also, the amount of people that get away with doing nothing, and still get paid for it? Ridiculous.
Unions don't need anymore power than they already have, unless we want the productivity in this country to lessen even more.
There needs to be a balance, unions need to fight long and hard for what they get, we don't need anymore socialism.
All I know is certain fields need unions. The one that I'm in is highly specialized and we're righting to keep the power we have and try to get a little more. We're having to compete with MDs. I'd rather have a union fighting for me than against me.
Back in the day my grandfather used to go to bars in towns where people thought like you, Fras. He went there expressly to get into fistfights and beat the ever-loving shit out of union critics.
Of course unions were hugely necessary back then, too.
Just out of curiosity, how many people actually believe that Obama was / is a Muslim? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cain [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
just in case you forgot. vote for obama.
I like to know that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Just because he attended a Muslim school for a few years doesn't make him a Musilim. My best friend's friends attended Catholic school and none of them are Catholic.
He didn't have a choice on what school to attend as a child. He was never a Muslim though.
just an observation....but have you noticed Obama talks about his black background but never his white?
What are you watching? I noticed him talking about his mother and maternal side of his family often. He knows his mother's side more than his father's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecojeanne [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
If you mean his skin color...well this is North America.
It's his family and he can talk about whomever he wishes.
i'm just saying rephrase: yes he talks about both sides but majority of what he talks about when it comes to his family is his black background....it just seems like thats the side he wants to promote more....thats all i'm saying....it was an observationQuote:
Originally Posted by lesa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Perhaps things are different in other areas, but where I live, the networks aren't focusing on race (black OR white) all that much. I expected more... maybe it is worse in the South, or in other areas where the population may find it relevant.
Also, if Obama is talking about his black relatives, I'd say it is probably more of a defensive move, rather than "promoting" them. I think he would like to downplay the importance of race while not minimizing the significance of a black man being a viable candidate for the first time in this country's history.
There needs to be a counter balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Always.
Obama was raised by his mother and so he talks about her more than anyone else.
well it must be the media then...its true here in Ireland we wouldn't necessarily be interested in the full coverage....we get snippets here and there....if one was interested they would watch cnn or all the other satellite news channels we have.
watch this...it is actually kinda funny
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9P15YZrnv0&NR=1"]YouTube - BARACK OBAMA: THE WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING[/ame]
cult like? they must've not watched jesus camp where they were making kids worship a stand up poster of george bush jr.
what a bunch of stupid propoganda.
vote for obama.
Anyone not interested in the full coverage, doesn't get a say. Get all the facts first, and then come talk to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecojeanne [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Oh sorry, I forgot, to some people on this forum, the American media is run by big evil corporations (run by robots) and won't give you the full story anyway. It's all a big conspiracy!
It was never not a big conspiracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by starbuck [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Pay full attention to the politics going on to post in a political thread, get educated in physics before you post in a scientific thread, and watch that idea rise up the ladder until we'll leave all the opinions to the real experts while everyone else aren't allowed to judge it and blindly hope that they're doing the right thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by starbuck [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Sounds like a plan. Give it a go.