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Excuse me. I just noticed how beautiful you are and just wanted to talk to you.
Im PCs master BTW.
Wait for her response. Then:
Im sorry this is really awkward: me talking to a complete stranger like but I just wanted to get to know you.
Either take it from there or if she is bitchy then just say: Ok sorry again. Have a nice day
And walk away
Nice thanks for insight [MENTION=85121]Hooo![/MENTION]
I could as well man up and come up with this pickup like - "Dinga, dinga dong - suck my cock !"
Or something more refined like - "Are you from farm? Cause you sure know how to raise a good cock."
Or - "Girl do you have a cat?(She answers Yes) Then wheres your pussy?"
thats tasteless
im just not the type for numbers game.
if you are into that you could just go to riga at a mall and ask 1000 girls if they wanna **** you.
and you will probably have some success if you do this every day.
i just dont like those number games.
if you dont like my verbalisation then just be honest.
but in a pleasant way.
if you are scared to talk to them then i dont see denying that.
its cute.
Im actually chubby guy, have added 10kg during last 2 years. I should say to girls straight away - In 30% fat and 100% sex machine. Would you like to go and grab pizza with me?
I can totally understand that you have no girlfriend
I'm a dude but if you throw in a beer with the pizza, I'm in!Quote:
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My friends all into that too. But after few times I dont want to pay for my friends anymore since they spend much more money than me on stupid things.
I really rather pay for girls than guys. But girls I wanted to meet didnt wanted to date me so I settled and went out with guys.
Really some people are born losers by their decisions. I ask a girl out but she dont even accept despite that everything would be paid for her. Just now saw a guy on FB - he wrote if someone(guy) want to jump with him in a car and go to Italy to chill out - he pays for everything. And no one accepted his offer.
Would you go out with a disrespectful egocentric guy?
I would not
How I am disrespectful or egocentric? Girls I dated been saying that Im cool and nice. All 3 girls who I dates said that Im nice.
Me: I can bring iceream but then you have to be good girl and write more often to me Otherwise I feel like only Im writting and you are just answering.
Egocententeted
The "jokes" are disrespectful
I see. I dont wanna be used as icecram delivery boy and thats egocentered.
Those jokes I wrote only on forum, not the type of the guy to say them in real life.
i don't want to insult you.
It's just that you have issues and I'm trying to help.
Multiple parts of your posts have led me to conclude you are egocentered
You interact out of your own perspective.
Example: you fear that you are being downgraded as an iceman (but u like to buy flowers)
Instead of asking her favourite flavour and just bring some.
If you don't want to make her make you then you could still ask for something small in return. Or what she will get you both.
If we were to meet in Riga and it was a hot day I'd probably pick up some ice cream for us too
You bring the flowers for you- not for her. (You cannot because you do not know who she is)
The whole niceness is a big problem
I have googled an article for you here
http://www.themodernman.com/blog/why-does-being-too-nice-to-a-woman-often-lead-to-rejection.html
Thanks [MENTION=85121]Hooo![/MENTION] Thats a good article. I felt that being nice is not enough. This explains why.
In Germany we have a saying: nice is the little brother of pillock
Update: My mom went to Russia for 2 weeks and I started to feel lonely. Its a day one alone so today Im trowing in party in my flat. Invited two friends and shouted social media for girls in case some want to join. Will have a lot of fruit flavour beer and snacks.
The girl I tried to meet like half a year went to live in UK now. Feel kinda wasted cause there was so many chances to meet and talk but I never did. Hope she will come back soon or at least that time there will be well spend. Sex on drugs ! Ha ha.
Something happened. Yesterday I went to bed and took my phone and noticed that 5 hours ago third girl was messaging me and she texted- "Hi How are you doing?" I couldnt believe my eyes and wanted to ask for what its been such a honour. Then I answered and she said that she mistaken to wrong number. I said thanks for writting at least by mistake. And she asked how I am doing and we started to chat then I said that I been thinking how everything ended between us and that I understood many things, that I was brutaly honest till point of rudeness and egocentric, also I understood that she didnt liked me that much. But she said that she liked me and still does just she couldnt understand few things. She said that she dont understand how guy dont have drivers license and that I always wanted to spend time in room, not go out. I defended myself but she still havent replied. We texted till late night yesterday and now its moorning 9 AM so will see if she will reply.
So she havent replied but what you think about it guys? [MENTION=71386]TheEvilJester[/MENTION] [MENTION=85121]Hooo![/MENTION] Should I take her back after everything? I posted our last texts before breaking up in previous post - post 189
I'm noticing I got WAY behind in this thread, so I'm not 100% sure what you are referring to here. But, I'm thinking you meant the girl who told you that you talk about sex too much?
If so, then I think you'd be best just to forget her and move on. I can't really comment on whether I agree that you talk too much about sex or if maybe she's overly prudish because I didn't see the part where you described the conversation or your typical interactions with her. But, whether you do talk about it more than maybe you should, or whether she is just overly sensitive and you didn't really talk about it all that much.... either way it still sounds like you two probably aren't the right match.
I mean, it isn't like your views on sex/your sex drives have to be an EXACT match for things to work.... but they should at least be close enough. If you two are THAT far off then it seems unlikely that would ever work.
Easy way would be just to give up. But today was hot summer and something happened. I had idea that we could go swim together. I mean fck all that happened and sex stuff. Really could just meet for coffee and walk and then next time maybe go for a swim. I mean I been watching this YT vid - how to get your ex back in 10 steps. And it said like start off friendly.
What really worries me that she said she dont understand how guy dont have drivers license. Im planning to get my license only after 2 years so if thats so important to her then we could break up again over it. Just really dont know, just want GF for the summer, not picky, besides when we broke up my mum said we should come back together.
Women usually rationalize feelings
Meaning they don't feel well with you for some unconscious reason. What they tell you is that it is because of X (drivers license or whatever) which is almost never really the problem
They feel something is wrong. They notice something wrong
They connect those with causality
However very often (and not only with women) two sentences linked with "because" are not linked causally
Thanks for reply Hooo. Today I was reading sex therapist stories about couples and I had idea that maybe I didnt care about her emotional needs enough. I mean we had great time together while kissing and making out but we never talked much and didnt had much quality time together. Perhaps she wanted to feel more comfortable with me and do things together besides bedroom action. Its like we spoke different love languages - for her quality time was important but for me being close with our bodies.
Yeah Hooo I felt that what she says is not the case why we broke up. There was something deeper, something more.
If you **** up usually it's not the thing that ends it that's the reason. That is just the tip of the iceberg
Its like not the virus is the problem. It's just the symptom or the result. The problem is earlier that you should perhaps have installed anti virus software up front or you should not have downloaded from insecure sources or ...
fixing the virus while continuing (old attitudes/ behaviour) to download insecure stuff without antivirus software will only get you so far...
Kinda nervous before date on monday. Planed to get coffee at Caif Cafe and go for a walk but that place in shopping mall no longer exist so will get coffee in other place in shopping mall. In that place you have to make your own coffee. So its nice we could make coffee for ourselves, something to do together.
I want to talk a lot and ask her questions, hoping it will go well and I wont lose speech.
Theres one girl at work as well. Shes younger than me in fact too young for me or my taste in girls, but shes been looking at me with these sexual predator eyes. You know how shark brain look right? If no then google it I think her shark brain is kicking in. Its party could be my fault because I never say Hi to her or any other girls at work besides I congratulated only her at womans day when we guys had to give girls(every girl) bottle of champagne at work. Anyway in case i end up alone at Chrismas then I will consider to ask her on a work Xmas prom.
Back to topic. Monday is coming and hope girl wont pull out before date. Wonder if she will wear a lot of makeup like on a first date. I want to look good for sure.
So update. The girl is dead. Whn time came she messaged me and said that she have a little changed plans. Shes selling car and two guys was going to see her. At the same time we should have been meeting. So I was angry and wrote - "How you wish. Do whats more important to you." It still hurt, took few days to get over it. I really gave her a lot of chances but she trowed those chances away. This is not special girl but i really been good to her. much better than she was to me.
Anyway now messaging with new girl. This is girl number 4 so gona call her fourth girl. Hope she will become fourth. So far havent met her yet but this is first day we really been messaging besides she said she have a lot of work today so will finish later. Anyway have big plans for summer. Want to do stuff together with girl, like swimming and surfing.
New girl I been chatting to died too. After joke that headache means there will be no sex(She told me she have a headache). Anyway we chatted for good 2 days and I came to realize that girls who works mental work is not for me as they are too smart. I prefer simple girls with who you can talk shit. Girls who works with their hands not brain. Think that would be more suited for me as Im only factory worker with no high school education for now. Still planning to start studying this summer.
Anyway today was nice. I saw people enjoying summer to the full as always a lot of marriages happens in summer and saw one marriage today too. Also people riding sub boards on water and riding water bikes, playing voleyball and swimming, riding cycles, sunbathing and eating ice cream outside. Besides im on day 20 without PMO(porn masturbation orgasm) Planning to hold on all summer and then longer. Found this today and it sure will help a lot - https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/in-case-you-didnt-know.84619/#post-678626
Anyway today I did something I wanted to for a long time - theres a girl who repaired my phone two times for free. And today I bought her a rose and bring it to phone shop where she works. She didnt remember me but its been a good few months since she helped last, besides they have hundrets of people every day. I was like - Good day, this is for You - and gave her rose. She looked confused at first and asked for what. Then I said that she repaired my phone twice and that I was already thinking I will need new phone. And she started smiling and looked very happy and wished that my phone will last for a long time.
I'm telling you that your Humor is disrespectful at best
Thats what she told me too - I wont meet you cause you dont respect me.
well exactly.
I have told you this weeks ago. You have attitudes towards women that are not working for you. This shows in your humor and leads to disrespectfullness.
The humor and disrespectful behaviour are not the cause. They are symptoms (in my humble oppinion)
If you want to grow as a person and if you want to have lasting success with women I suggest for you to identify and change those attitudes/limiting beliefs.
Thanks for the tip [MENTION=85121]Hooo![/MENTION] I been reading about limiting beliefs and think I have indentified mine. Now just need to elimanate them. Few years ago my limiting beliefs was way stronger and it was impossible to progress with girls cause I been thinking that no girl likes me and if some do then they actually dont like me cause they dont know it yet. Now its much better and I had some good experiences to think diferently now.
Do you want help with identifying and rephrasing and reframing your beliefs?
Yes sure I want help ! Why not?
As you write it down, what exactly do you think is true about women, relationships and yourself in regard to both of them?
I been thinking about this for few days and many different things come in my mind [MENTION=85121]Hooo![/MENTION]
But one thats been there for years and was the strongest and still exist in my mind for some degree, but not as strong anymore is that I been thinking that every guy even the average looking ones are much more better looking than me and that even most ugly and crazy girls have wide choice of guys especially on dating sites. I been thinking that girls dont like me and if they do like me then they actually dont like me its just they dont know it yet. Its like when girl dont know the guy she might use her imagination or think that guy(me) is a guy by average standards and find me interesting as a guy while she dont know me yet.
Also besides all that I think that I might look okay but only until I open my mouth since Im not a big talker and not really interesting person. Even when I considered myself better looking than average guys in my teens this was worrying me the most - that I look more interesting than Im actually are from inside.
What I think about girls now is that they want a ready guy to settle down and have kids with. Especially now when Im and the girls I date are in mid and late twenties. I find that girls want guy with drivers license/ his own place to live and good paid job. Basically I think that they want someone at their level in regards of these things. So yeah I think attraction needs higher value and by no means lower value.
Also I think that girls care about sex a lot, even those who say they are not interested in sex or dont want to talk about it. If I turn on girl when we meet and leave her unsatisfied then I think thats the last time we meet cause when girls wants sex and guy dont deliver it then guy is gone - cut out from girls life.
But what really makes me frustrated is that one sentence that girl dont like can end relationship or contact as well. You know what Im talking about.
They say that in order to take relationship to next level you have to treat other person than it treats you. Now I always treat girls and even my guy friends better than they treat me. But with girls I find that I have to treat them better just to keep whatever crappy contact or hope of relationship that we have. And literaly those few times when I couldn't take it anymore and treated girls the way they treat me - like talked with them the same way they talk to me - that was end of things, that ended everything. Its like once I stop taking shit thats given to me and stop giving my best instead and give just a little of what they give to me its when things end. "I want to be someones princess" - said the last girl I tried to meet. But im sick from putting girls on pedestial and treating them like princeses. I want something equal in relationship.
And now when I find myself to be happier on my own without all the frustrations and disappointments when desperately trying to create relationship, I find that I have a long way to go to become who I want to become and get all those things I want in my life. With a girl who believes in me it could be faster way to get there but I never met such girl who would have trust in me or patience to wait for things to be good or me to reach my potential. In fact I always see potential in girls but only my close relatives and work colleagues see potential in me, not some random girls I date.
So I opened a new topic and here im putting link to it cause I want everything to be on here in this Longing to be loved topic since it have all the history and its like my dating and love and happiness diary.
http://www.loveforum.net/love-advice-forum/100343-girls-fcking-mind.html#post1040546
So I been chatting with this girl for a week or so. Yesterday she messaged me first and we chatted a lot. She seems kinda crazy but shes in very good shape since she does fitness training for 3 years. And also she like computers and mobile phones just like me. She have a lot of gadgets and she fix them by herself. But I think I have more theoretical knowledge in stuff since shes been interested in computers 11 years but Im in PCs already 13 years.
Anyway few days ago I stopped messaged her because she said I have to go to her barber shop where she works if I want to see her. But I said I want a real date. And its funny that shes been dating with guys who are into computers or programming. I said that shes completly not in my taste since I been dating twice fatter girls than here like around 100kg. Shes a slim girl with muscles but likes chubby guys and when I showed her my pics she said yummy.
The crazy thing about her is that she is this good looking fitness type of girl but call some people rich just because they have more money than her. Also she complained about her barber shop colleagues that they are all females and I suggested her my ex classmate barber shop where most abrbers are guys and she said that is probably rich barber shop but shes a simple girl.
So yeah seems like this girl have low confidence despite that she have a lot going for her.
She recently won fitness competition where she held plank for 23 minutes. I just tried it and barely could hold myself in plank for 2 minutes, had to really push willpower. Thats just for compassion what a machine she is if average human can hold plank for 1 minute.
So update on this computer girl - she blocked me on FB.
I kinda felt like I rejected her when she said no one offers relationship to her. maybe she waited for me to offer her one?
But still I already told her from beginning - wheres point to chat when she dont want to go on a real date with me? But she said to talk about computers and exchange with experience. So we did do that a lot but today she called me user after I said thanks for her time.
Her last words to me before blocking -Yeah **** and I was hoping on relationship. Get lost user. Assholes everyone, just hope on them, herd of nerds.
Alright I had a feeling that she is crazy already from beginning but there was a lot of good things about her. Feel sorry for poor girl, I would have gone on date with her but she ended everything.
What you think guys about this situation? [MENTION=71386]TheEvilJester[/MENTION] [MENTION=85795]GLYC[/MENTION] [MENTION=85802]Snow White[/MENTION] [MENTION=85848]WiltedRose[/MENTION] [MENTION=78360]lovemenot[/MENTION]
First of all, I work out a bit too, but holding a plank for 23 minutes!! WOW! She's really something.
I only read the last two posts, but I get the impression that she has more self issues than just low self esteem. Maybe she has burnt from some relationship in the past and just really wanted to take things very slow (talking about computers and just casually seeing each other at her workplace..) ant to get to know you before going on a real date. But then again saying that nobody offers her a relationship...Sound like she is not sure at all what she wants...At least that's the impression I get.
So she really seems very complicated girl and I wouldn't even suggest getting into a relationship with her even if there was such an opportunity.
It must feel sh** to be blocked by someone, but I wouldn't stress about it too much, I bet it wasn't anything personal she just has loads of her own issues, as you said yourself, she seemed crazy from the very beginning. So better just move on.
And also, speaking from my own experience, there's something very unpleasant and somewhat rejecting when a guy says "thank you for your time". It just feels like the guy thinks I am doing him some kind of a favor spending time with him and it's not a mutual happy-time together. I am not sure if I am explaining this right, but I can understand why she would say "user" after you said that. Hearing that kind of feels like the guy just used me and thanked me (because he is just very polite) and moved on. Or maybe just crazy girls think that (I am not the most normal myself;D).
Thanks for your insight [MENTION=78360]lovemenot[/MENTION] .
This really makes sense since I had a feeling that it all is not just my fault. Its interesting that you say saying thanks makes it look like a favor. Because I had a feeling if I say thanks to a girl then she gets a feeling like she have gave me something. And that kinda pushes away girl cause she felt like a giver, like higher value or better than me.
Also it makes sense that you say maybe she been burn from past relationship. Cause she pretty early on started to talk about her crush who she waited for 3 years. I did see that as a little red flag but didnt see it as a sign she been burnt and not ready for a new relationship. But yeah looks like I have dodged a bullet here. Your reply made me see clearer.
Glad I could help:] And about that saying "thanks" - it's just my personal feeling, so I thought maybe she felt similar. Would actually be interesting to hear what other girls think about this.
It sounds like she's done it in temper to me, maybe frustrated? let her calm down she'll be back then ask her out?!Quote:
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I really do hate online chatting/dating sometimes things come across in the wrong way and you have to talk about relationships and long term goals when you haven't even flipping met grrr it is best to meet asap and see if there is a connection etc
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23 minutes bloody marry her haha just kidding it does sound like she has issues is she a young girl?Quote:
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