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I would have loved being in Times Square tonight.
I stayed at home all day. Masturbation was the highlight of my day.
thanks lf. i am so happy right now you don't even know.
even you, ov. for keeping your ignorant self out of the democratic process.
Right, you made such a difference. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
the dems just took everybody out all over the country. people are SICK to death of republicans. except for people in mississippi, georgia, and alabama, who would rather see another republican come in and go into an economic depression and get into one war after another just as long as a black person doesn't get voted in.Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I'm relieved. Our stocks won't tank. ;)
Seriously, I am glad he won. Soon the Bush years will be a nasty memory. I just hope ppl don't put this man on too high a pedestal. I was a bit weirded out by the 'call-answer' preacher type response he started to get in his victory speech (all that 'yes we can').
Yes, he's smart and a great speaker. Yes, he was the best candidate. But he's just one man, however well he's got his shit together. America has the tendency to pull down its glamour children once the sheen wears off. Don't do that to this guy, he's got a lot of potential. Let him do his job & help if you can.
Congrats you guys. Obama kicks ass.
It's truly a historic moment! Not just the fact that the first African American was elected to the highest level of power in US, but also the fact that the man elected was the one who disagreed on most major issues and decision made by Bush. The landslide defeat of the GOP today shows that people of US are ready to go into a new, better direction. I think better diplomacy, moderation and a better standing in the world will be additional benefits of this victory.
I suspect Republican party will fall into disarray after this and I predict a lot of in fighting. I hope they will carefully analyze how the past 8 years led them down to this defeat today and expunge all the ideologies that led them in this direction. I hope this will help them change for the better.
Wow, what a victory! It's still hard to believe it actually happened.
The 'yes we can' crap was totally a Hillary thing.
Anyone see Mccain's speech where he congratulated Obama? The crowd kept booing like a bunch of rabid hyenas.
12 Step Bush recovery program (if anyone needs it) :)
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I needed that. Badly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
All this 'historic moment' stuff is really irrelevant to me & its starting to sound a bit trite, IMO. Who cares that Obama is black? Just that he's intelligent & looks likely to do a reasonable job.
It could have just as easily been: the 1st woman pres. Or the first asian/hispanic/anyone from a minority. It was mostly timing. Let's face it: if Bill Clinton had been running now, following GWB, he would have won in a landslide. Almost any decent Dem candidate would have, esp w/the Republicans bringing Palin on board.
Well done America, I’m impressed.
I have niggling concerns in the back of my mind tho which I really hope I’m wrong to be worried about. I’m concerned that something might happen that Obama will have to step down/be removed to leave Biden as president (the original plan). Having America vote in Obama made America look very good to the rest of the world for the first time in a HUGE way which was desperately needed (therefore possibly contrived). Obviously if Obama is removed the president will be a ‘WHITE’ ‘GUY’ ; Biden. We all know if McCain had won that he would have kicked the bucket and left that crazy ‘woman’ in charge. I really hope that Obama is there for the full term.
Obama is the worthy winner of the two.
It's historic because it will have wide range repercussions from US self identity to how US is seen in the eyes of the rest of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I don't think so. World opinion would have been positive with ANY Democrat in office. I think it's historic solely because he is black. I'm okay with that - it's worth celebrating. Party on for two months, and then let's get to business.
Yes, that is a concern, particularly since he is black and by default is representing the black community. I hope he is the best president we ever had, or all the crackers will have fuel to add to their fire (not that they needed anyting because they will simply manufacture reasons to perpetuate hate). It's such a lot of pressure to be the first ___________.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
it is relevent that he is black. for a long time minorities in u.s. have been brainwashed to believe that we could never achieve such a high status. black people had never ever aspired to be president or hold high government offices. same with women. also, he got a lot of disenfranchised minorities to vote and have a say in government.
but aside from being black, obama is a very intelligent and sincere man. i am hopeful that things will get better.
Here's to hoping he will help heal the racial divide in our country. Don't mind the haters, Obama!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJex9Ge2-Q"]YouTube - Obama Brushes the Dirt Off[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3erEqfFxTlE"]YouTube - Pro & Con John McCain - Barack Obama[/ame]
"george bush ****ed it up so bad, he made it hard for a white man to become president!"
tears are forming in my eyes right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I really hope for this country that he does make a good president but if he tries to tax me more I am punching the first baby I see in the face.
I don't give a ****. Why? Because its America and besides it doesn't matter much wether its McCain or Obama. A lot of you think Obama is different, but if you look at his team, you can predict another wars to come. He has created an illusion that your apathetic americans can have a say, but I doubt it will happen. Heh, his wife is a member of CFR and Brzezinski himself is his advisor.
well if she is, then obama is just another puppet....ah well, he's a good actorQuote:
Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
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Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
lol everytime you say something i laugh cause i remember indi's joke about rolling over estonia to get somewhere more interesting.
aaaaaaaajahajaahjaaaaaaaaaaaa god damn that was funny.
The only reason Estonia isn't tearing the throats out of its neighbors is because it's too small and its people are too busy tearing the throats out of each other. You live in one of the most violent countries in the world. Keep that in mind when you criticize the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Obama is going to be a ****ing awesome president. Boobaa is just pissed because that will show just how idiotic some of the things he has said, will say, and would like to say, really are.
I hope he isn't assassinated because he is black or anything. Most republicans seem to be diehard fanatics.
if anybody had the audacity to go after obama they better hope they die too because people a lot more dangerous than some skinny, white republican in a uniform would be after that person.
Landslide victory? Come on now..
Popular vote:
46% McCain
51% Obama
Electoral college:
162 McCain
349 Obama
Outdated ass system.. This country has a few more people then it did in 1776 and it needs to be tweaked..
Doesn't really matter, half the country already doesn't like him, give him 6 months, everybody else will, too..
i used to diss on the elector college too but i see it's point.
if we went just by the popular vote small towns would be ignored. people would campaign in new york and california and anything in between would be left out. large metropolis's would pop up everywhere just to have a say in the government.
the popular vote will always be half and half. because we're pinned against each other. we have to keep separated!
I think he meant that it just needs to be updated.Quote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Look at Bush's victories. They were as close as could be. Given the last two elections this was a landslide victory. Hell, Bush didn't even have the popular vote the first time around.
Who gets the other 3% ? Colbert? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by To0C0oL [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
i'm so very glad to be done with bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Aww, don't cry. I am glad he won; I just couldn't endorse him. I didn't vote for McCain either (shudder).Quote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Anyway, big news in California... prop 8 passed. How disappointing! Ironically, the black voters turned out en masse to vote for Obama, a high point for a people who have been historically oppressed and denied civil rights. However, black voters came out strongly against civil rights for homosexual couples, and were apparently (according to media reports) responsible for it passing.
yeah that prop passed by a very very steep landslide. i couldn't believe it.
It doesn't surprise me. Hypocrisy is the name of the game. It's a never ending cycle.
Who is surprised about Prop 8 considering minorities are a relatively religious population?
Sad day, but at least it was a state decision, marriage should never be a federal decision.
Oh, it isn't over yet... this will ultimately end up in the Supreme Court. We have 18,000 homesexual couples already married in California, and their marriages are still considered valid.
Misombra - I'm not sure what constitutes a landslide, but this measure passed with 52% in favor, 48% opposed.
i think marriage should be the church's decision. that prop being on the ballot was government encroaching upon the church.
oh really? well i think only a few prectincts were reporting when i saw the number.Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
it was something like 11000 to 1000
What? You haven't even been here. Only ones that are tearing each others throats are our neighbors from the east. Besides, what bad did I say about America now? You people are way too uptight imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]