Screw it

I have basically come to a point of saying the hell with dating and just remain single and work on becoming successful in the business word. Because that seems to be the only thing really going for me anyway, and it is something I can actually become good at. Unlike dating, which doesn't seem to be going anywhere any time soon or in the future.

Yes I have asked girls out and got rejected. Yes I have talked to girls only to find out they are taken or are single moms. Or I try to talk to girls and something comes up to stop it from happening. I know I am young, but it seems no matter what I do nothing seems to work, so screw it. It is most probably better for me to focus my attention to things that actually work out or can work out for me, like business stuff.

It seems like when you stop looking, that's when you find him/her...

I have never seen a forum so full of people throwing tantrums.

EVERYONE: Life's not all that hard. Really. Look at all the retards that manage to muddle through. I think the main problem is people directing all their focus inwards. Starting thread after thread about yourself a day is madness and that kind of self-absorption is a sure fire route to depression. Listen to me: I speak the truth.

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Try that for a quick slap of reality

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Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

It seems like when you stop looking, that's when you find him/her...

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Heard that before.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Boy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I have never seen a forum so full of people throwing tantrums.

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Uh I am not having a tantrum, but more throwing the towel as I basically given up. Now if I was to post a "book" ranting and raving then ya I would be having an "e-tantrum".

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EVERYONE: Life's not all that hard. Really.

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Tell that to the people in Africa, or where Katrina hit. Some people have life easer than others. Some are luckier than others, that is just how life is. To say that life is not that hard is like me saying females are actually really easy to understand.

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Look at all the retards that manage to muddle through. I think the main problem is people directing all their focus inwards. Starting thread after thread about yourself a day is madness and that kind of self-absorption is a sure fire route to depression. Listen to me: I speak the truth.

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I agree to a certain extent actually.

I was talking about people in the developed world, obviously. Life for the world's poor is horiffic. For them real suffering is part of day to day life - a basic fact of existence. For the rich, suffering - any suffering - stings like an injustice. The less suffering people have in their lives the less they're able to endure. If humans could live with privilige and comfort but hold on to the perspective of the poor....

Bah, it's all relative. I, by no means, will ever make light of any problems I have - or anyone else - simply based on the fact that we live in the first world. Sure, the fact that I have a car is considered a "luxury" in many places, but I'm still going to bitch when I get a flat tire that strands me out in the middle of nowhere. Abject poverty is a reality, it always will be a reality, and as much as I feel for those in certain countries who have little to nothing - that still doesn't mean I don't have the right to feel bad when things annoy me or piss me off or hurt me. I'm a staunch opponent of wealth envy and capitalist guilt.

On to this guy's complaint, I don't disagree with his plan. I'd advise anyone to focus on themselves and what they can do to make their lives more stable, productive and happy in their own right. Only when you have a solid, strong foundation in yourself can you build any real relationship atop it.

Not to be trite, but men and women are attracted to confidence, stability, a person who's generally happy, etc. Who honestly wants to date someone who is insecure, or constantly depressed, or who has skewed priorities? Take care of yourself and your life, and you'll be surprised who notices your progress.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Boy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

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Try that for a quick slap of reality

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Uh that is in accurate. For one its base on data from 2003. The US dollar is much weaker now and inflation is higher than in 2003.


I was talking about people in the developed world, obviously.
Charlie, you do remember Katrina right?

Glyph - Yes but what I'm saying is it's that kind of self absorbed lack of perspective that leads to high anxiety levels and depression. America and Australia are two of the most highly developed countries in the world but suffer epidemics of depression and anxiety. The consumption of drugs that "treat" these problems is mind-blowing.

I'm not saying don't gripe if you get a flat tyre or if you're feeling a bit single and lonely. I'm saying to put that problem in context.

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Uh that is in accurate. For one its base on data from 2003. The US dollar is much weaker now and inflation is higher than in 2003.


I was talking about people in the developed world, obviously.
Charlie, you do remember Katrina right?

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WTF has Hurricane Katrina go to do with anything? Are you in the middle of a hurricane right now and that is somehow connected with your little rant above???

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Bah, it's all relative. I, by no means, will ever make light of any problems I have - or anyone else - simply based on the fact that we live in the first world. Sure, the fact that I have a car is considered a "luxury" in many places, but I'm still going to bitch when I get a flat tire that strands me out in the middle of nowhere. Abject poverty is a reality, it always will be a reality, and as much as I feel for those in certain countries who have little to nothing - that still doesn't mean I don't have the right to feel bad when things annoy me or piss me off or hurt me. I'm a staunch opponent of wealth envy and capitalist guilt.

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I agree totally with this. People will always want what some else has.

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On to this guy's complaint, I don't disagree with his plan. I'd advise anyone to focus on themselves and what they can do to make their lives more stable, productive and happy in their own right. Only when you have a solid, strong foundation in yourself can you build any real relationship atop it.

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You could consider I have that solid foundation for a college student. As I have a part time job, a car, going to school full time, and have a career path pretty much laid out for me.

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Not to be trite, but men and women are attracted to confidence, stability, a person who's generally happy, etc. Who honestly wants to date someone who is insecure, or constantly depressed, or who has skewed priorities? Take care of yourself and your life, and you'll be surprised who notices your progress.

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I agree. But if you focus to much on your self and your life your going to not see that girl that took notice of you and wonder if you stop and took the time to look around every once awhile if you would have seen that girl that did took notice while you where making your way to the top of the ladder.

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Originally Posted by jurupa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I agree. But if you focus to much on your self and your life your going to not see that girl that took notice of you and wonder if you stop and took the time to look around every once awhile if you would have seen that girl that did took notice while you where making your way to the top of the ladder.

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I don't know that I agree with this. If a person is truly interested, they'll make it known. I'm not saying make yourself a workaholic who is completely closed off to the outside world. But don't be one of the ones who feel as if his life is meaningless without a relationship. I have a couple of friends who are like that, and they're never happy because they believe the only key to happiness is a relationship.

Relationships take effort, energy, time . . . and you'll have to divide those amongst the other important things in your life. What's easier - climbing to the top of the mountain alongside someone without taking up all their slack, or climbing that same mountain whilst carrying someone on your back?

Get where you're going (or a good bit of the way there), then stop and admire the scenery. Your vantage point will be a lot clearer.

Nice metaphor. Shit advice.

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WTF has Hurricane Katrina go to do with anything? Are you in the middle of a hurricane right now and that is somehow connected with your little rant above???

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Not at all. It was directed to your post saying life is not that hard. One would think a country like the US would be able to get the people that where effected by the hurricane get back on their feet, and yet it is still a mess down there. Ya there is a lot of things involved, mostly political, but I would say the people living in that mess have a harder life than me. I am not saying my life is easy or harder compare to them by any means.



Glyph - I agree relationships are not everything. But they most certainly be part of happiness.

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Glyph - Yes but what I'm saying is it's that kind of self absorbed lack of perspective that leads to high anxiety levels and depression. America and Australia are two of the most highly developed countries in the world but suffer epidemics of depression and anxiety. The consumption of drugs that "treat" these problems is mind-blowing.

I'm not saying don't gripe if you get a flat tyre or if you're feeling a bit single and lonely. I'm saying to put that problem in context.

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I'd much rather live with anxiety and guilt - and even have a nation of people gobbling meds for it - than to live in cultures where kids as young as five or six are doing heavy manual labour or who are married off to men twice their ages or more when they've barely hit puberty.

"Someone somewhere's got it worse than me" has never helped me and most likely never will. Even in our developed country, people with AIDS or cancer or on the welfare line have it worse than me. People from all economic classes within this nation could be diagnosed as clinically depressed. If we held people from underdeveloped nations to the same ruler, they'd have a shitload of pedophiles, battered wives, and severely depressed individuals, as I can't see anything more depressing than barely fruitful, backbreaking labour for the rest of my short-lived days.

What people are doing elsewhere has absolutely no bearing on me. The key isn't to think of how bad others have it; it's to prioritise and not put so much stock on relationships. Our culture puts so much emphasis on the nuclear family, getting married, wife and kids - I doubt much of the population ever even stops to consider if that's really what they want, or if that's just what they're told to want. People don't think of themselves enough, basically. Not in a selfish, "I want what I want when I want it" kind of way, but in a healthy "what do I need and want in life?" way.

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Originally Posted by Glyph [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I'd much rather live with anxiety and guilt - and even have a nation of people gobbling meds for it - than to live in cultures where kids as young as five or six are doing heavy manual labour or who are married off to men twice their ages or more when they've barely hit puberty.

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**** you're obtuse. My point isn't that people in poor countries have a preferable existence, it's that: WE SHOULDN'T HAVE NATIONS OF RICH PEOPLE GOBBLING MEDS IT'S UNNECESSARY AND IT'S A DIRECT RESULT OF A SOCIETY THAT PROMOTES SELF-OBSESSION AND THE "RIGHT" TO BE HAPPY ALL THE TIME. SELF-OBSESSION REMOVES PERSPECTIVE AND WITHOUT PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE BECOME DEEPLY UNHAPPY AS A RESULT OF RELATIVELY INSIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE NO COPING MECHANISMS.

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Originally Posted by Glyph [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

"Someone somewhere's got it worse than me" has never helped me and most likely never will. Even in our developed country, people with AIDS or cancer or on the welfare line have it worse than me. People from all economic classes within this nation could be diagnosed as clinically depressed. If we held people from underdeveloped nations to the same ruler, they'd have a shitload of pedophiles, battered wives, and severely depressed individuals, as I can't see anything more depressing than barely fruitful, backbreaking labour for the rest of my short-lived days.

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THAT'S MY POINT - LOOK AT THE SUFFERING IN THESE PEOPLE'S LIVES BUT THEY GET THROUGH. THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT AND MORE SOPHISTICATED VIEW OF SUFFERING. DON'T BELIEVE ME? COMPARE THE SUICIDE RATES OF AFRICA AND AMERICA AND AUSTRALIA.

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Originally Posted by Glyph [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

What people are doing elsewhere has absolutely no bearing on me. The key isn't to think of how bad others have it; it's to prioritise and not put so much stock on relationships. Our culture puts so much emphasis on the nuclear family, getting married, wife and kids - I doubt much of the population ever even stops to consider if that's really what they want, or if that's just what they're told to want. People don't think of themselves enough, basically. Not in a selfish, "I want what I want when I want it" kind of way, but in a healthy "what do I need and want in life?" way

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BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, HAPPINESS DOESN'T ARISE OUT OF A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES OR RELATIONSHIPS. MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE UNHAPPY WHETHER THEY WERE IN A RELATIONSHIP HAD A FAMILY, HAD MULITPLE REGULAR SEX PARTNERS, WERE CLEIBATE. TRUE, SUSTAINABLE HAPPINESS ARISES OUT OF A MINDSET;

Speaking of meds. Learn to voice your discourse sanely, thanks.

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THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT AND MORE SOPHISTICATED VIEW OF SUFFERING. DON'T BELIEVE ME? COMPARE THE SUICIDE RATES OF AFRICA AND AMERICA AND AUSTRALIA.

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Oh, come off it. Jesus Christ, "more sophisticated"? They don't know any better. And seriously, how the **** DID these even veer off onto third-world bullshit? It has ****-all to do with anything. Okay, so third-world citizens are not depressed or anxious. They're: dying of AIDS, old at the age of 30, etc etc etc. You're speaking about "perspective" - I'm afraid you're not being clear, really, because what I've read so far is how we need to take the "underdeveloped nation's" view of suffering. Well, no, we don't. We've got our own problems. They're relative to our situations.

Sorry, but the implications of this:

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I was talking about people in the developed world, obviously. Life for the world's poor is horiffic. For them real suffering is part of day to day life - a basic fact of existence. For the rich, suffering - any suffering - stings like an injustice. The less suffering people have in their lives the less they're able to endure. If humans could live with privilige and comfort but hold on to the perspective of the poor....

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. . . is, "Shut up. Poor people have it bad." The issue isn't that people don't HAVE enough suffering, and therefore can't take it when such a situation arises. The issue is that people CREATE suffering for themselves by not learning to be happy without a relationship.

Don't snap at me because I draw a logical conclusion from your totally off-topic post about the third-****ing-world and you don't like what was derived from it. Different countries, different priorities, different altogether.

You're right. We have nothing to learn from the third world and their attitude to suffering - The way they, or anyone in the midst of intense suffering, can find joy and happiness and love in the midst of so much pain. They just "don't know any better". Different countries, different priorities.

Because the first-world is absolutely devoid of joy and happiness, even amongst those who inhale meds like candy. There are absolutely no elderly married couples still as in love today as the first day they said. There are no tearful reunions or birthdays or anniversaries or first Christmasses or anything like that.

When we marry, it's an event centered (most often) around love and family. I doubt arranged marriages are the same out in Bum**** Zimbabwe. When we have babies, we plan college funds and baby showers. I doubt the same thing happens in nations where couples are apt to start crying because they had a useless girl rather than a boy capable of work.

Sorry if I have a hard time believing that I should glean any life lessons from a culture where a rite of passage isn't so much a birthday party with balloons, but rather genital mutilation or something equally as degrading or dangerous. They've my sympathy for their daily hardships, but I certainly don't derive any moral inspiration from them. Poverty aside, many of them adhere to archaic rituals, traditions, and social mores that add more pain than is necessary.

Oh come off your high horse, Charlie, you passive aggressive turd.

Everyone shut up

This is Loveforum.net!

not Rantbecauseyouhadabaddayforum.net!

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Hey! I was really enjoying the ranting! Ranting is an art form.

I like that Charlie is willing to tenaciously hold onto it even if he's dead ****ing wrong. I like that Glyph doesn't lose her shit even when someone is YELLING at her.

And Gribble, I think I'm getting an e-crush on you.

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On to this guy's complaint, I don't disagree with his plan. I'd advise anyone to focus on themselves and what they can do to make their lives more stable, productive and happy in their own right. Only when you have a solid, strong foundation in yourself can you build any real relationship atop it.

Not to be trite, but men and women are attracted to confidence, stability, a person who's generally happy, etc. Who honestly wants to date someone who is insecure, or constantly depressed, or who has skewed priorities? Take care of yourself and your life, and you'll be surprised who notices your progress.

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Agree with Glyph
What goes around comes around, your world is what you make of it. If you have goals set for youself then focus on that right now, along the way when the time is right the relationship thing will find its way in your life.

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And Gribble, I think I'm getting an e-crush on you.

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Does this mean we get to have a raunchy e-affair behind your BF's back?

Dead wrong!? Dead wrong my filthy anus!! I just couldn't be bothered arguing anymore with that ignorant, ring-wormed feline. What I'm saying is a universal truth:

1) Western society promotes self-obsession. Self-obsession leads to depression because it removes perspective. Perspective is an essential part of our coping mechanisms when faced with tragedy and misfortune.

2) True, sustainable happiness demands an acceptance of suffering as a fundamental part of life. Because they are faced with so much suffering, many in the developing world come to that acceptance very early in the peice. Many in Western society never do, which is why even a small amount of suffering causes them so much anguish.

Because these these are universal, self-evident truths I will not expend any more energy arguing them. This is my last post in this thread.

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Does this mean we get to have a raunchy e-affair behind your BF's back?

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No, I'm a compulsive confessor. We'll have to do it out in the open.

"We'll have to do it out in the open."

Kinky.

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Originally Posted by jurupa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I have basically come to a point of saying the hell with dating and just remain single and work on becoming successful in the business word. Because that seems to be the only thing really going for me anyway, and it is something I can actually become good at. Unlike dating, which doesn't seem to be going anywhere any time soon or in the future.

Yes I have asked girls out and got rejected. Yes I have talked to girls only to find out they are taken or are single moms. Or I try to talk to girls and something comes up to stop it from happening. I know I am young, but it seems no matter what I do nothing seems to work, so screw it. It is most probably better for me to focus my attention to things that actually work out or can work out for me, like business stuff.

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I know the feeling. But, while I've been waiting for Ms. Right (I'm now 38)...I have succeeded beyond my wildest dreams. So, buck up buddy...whether she comes along or not, sounds to me like you are on the road to success!

I think what you are describing is very common today. It has nothing to do with you. Best thing is to live your life, be a success, and if she comes along..great. If not, you've still done a heck of a lot of good.

I think that is a really good idea jurupa.

Focus and busy yourself!

jurupa-

Manchmal besuchst du eine wirklich nett Fraeuleun. Vashti ist stimmt, wann siehst du keinen stern, schlagst ihn dich auf da hinten. Aber gibt es Zeit.

Macht es beschaeftig und kommt siehst du sie auf dem Augen!

So ein Glueck!

Spricht Deutsches? Ich wu&#223;te nicht.

Richtig!

Ich weiss ein Paar Woerten. Verstehst du mich? Ich lerne Deutsch bloss ein Jahr. Moechte zu leute in Deutsch oft sprechen.

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I think that is a really good idea jurupa.

Focus and busy yourself!

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Is it a good idea? Because I do more work than play.

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Is it a good idea? Because I do more work than play.

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yes. remember, men ar from mars, women are from venus.

rejection sucks, and you should take a break from the women. most often you will meet a nice girl while you're on a little break.

Ich spreche sehr wenig. Nicht flie&#223;end.

Ich kann Deutsch fliessend sprechen, aber mische sprechen. Ich kann klein Woert sprechen.

Wo kommst du? nicht auf Deutschland ja?

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yes. remember, men ar from mars, women are from venus.

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rejection sucks, and you should take a break from the women. most often you will meet a nice girl while you're on a little break.

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Maybe I should take a break, but I also don't want to be 30 and yet to have a girl friend and that is only 7 years away. I know it may seem some what a long time, but things are not slowing down any.

yea, this year seems to have gone by pretty quickly... i think the older one gets, the faster life goes... and eventually we end up in a casket... how sad.

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Ich kann Deutsch fliessend sprechen, aber mische sprechen. Ich kann klein Woert sprechen.

Wo kommst du? nicht auf Deutschland ja?

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Nein, bin ich in Amerika.

That's about as much as I know.

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Nein, bin ich in Amerika.

That's about as much as I know.

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Cool. I'm getting a minor in german. going to try to get my major in graphic art.