Does anyone know if being high gives you access to your subconscious mind? like being hypnotized does? thanks
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Does anyone know if being high gives you access to your subconscious mind? like being hypnotized does? thanks
I'd really like to invite my pothead brother to get on loveforum and answer this question for you. Too bad that I'm not going to.
I think it depends on what drug you take. There are afterall halucinogens... deppressants... stimulants.... they all do different things. I don't think that drugs like pot necessarily give you access to anything, but rather take away your ability to think rationally and properly.
i don't think it gets into your head like hynosis does, but i know it can bring out some deep rooted stuff ...
i used to dwell on a lot of "what ifs" and bad things from my past, so i've steered clear from pot ... this happened after a few years of doing it tho ...
Makes me zone out and think 'bout a load of bullshit.
You ask if they help you access the unconscious mind as if drugs are a pathway to enlightenment, obviously, the answer is no. Drugs do affect your mood, though. Why else would you take them?
It alllll depends on the drug. How can you ask a question like that when there are hundreds of drugs that all behave differently?
DMT might help you see the elves, 2C-T-7 might cause you to have "profound" ruminations on past life experiences, but snorting cocaine will just get you high.
i'm sorry, in this case i'm talking about marijuana
Marijuana doesn't do shit. Take LSD or eat shrooms. And don't blame me if you lose your friends after tripping together, because your unconious deeper mind opened up to eachother.
It's not only the subconscious mind that opens up ... I've watched 2 friends argue about who farted while tripping on acid.Quote:
Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Dude, what the hell is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
2C-T-7? A highly substituted phenethylamine that people used to be able to buy online but now have to get from the Dutch
Okay, for those of us who aren't chem majors?Quote:
Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
A psychedelic
Too vague. What kind? What's it like? Is it like 2C-I?Quote:
Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
It's in the 2C family and structurally the same as 2C-I but the iodine is replaced with propylthio
I've never done it before and don't plan on it so I can't say firsthand
Erowid might help you out.
[url]http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp_list.shtml[/url]
Free advice: Don't try to find out an answer to that question. Real or not, that just sounds like a lame attempt to try to make you do drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sensetive [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Are we forgetting Francis Crick, Nobel Prize winner and founder of the Double Helix DNA structure... who was adamant that he would have never been able to do it if he wasn't tripping his face off?
From what I hear Watson* is also a douchebag, my best friend at college was a lab bitch for like 2 years at Cold Spring Harbor Lab and couldn't stand him. He thinks he's smarter than everyone and because he already made a contribution he's entitled to something. Not only that, he took a lot of work from Rosalind Franklin and never gave her ANY credit. He also enjoys being racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoodleMan [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
But the point is that they both stole work from other people
Today I got high and walked around a duck pond, lending surrealist voices to the talking trashcans by the waterfall.
rather than make you go into another subconscious what it really does is just limit your consciousness. Thats it, don't believe the fake hype of drugs.
I myself partake in the pleasures of mind-altering substances on a regular basis. No I'm not some kind of addict, no I'm not dependant on anything (except the occassional caffeine booster), and no I'm not a junkie.
I've used and some might say 'abused' several things in my lifetime.
Xanax, Cannabis, Vicodin, Ritalin, Concerta, Aderol, Psychedelic Mushrooms (a real life experience for me), LSD, Cocaine, Alcohol, Salvia... Heroine.
I've been around, and as of the last few months I've only been smoking maybe a couple times a week, socially. I occassionaly trip, maybe once every couple of months now. And really, It's socially ignorant and intolerant for anyone to tell me that I'm bad, weak, or any connotations of negativity for doing what I did. Frankly people need to spend less time pointing fingers, looking for reasons to put themselves above others, or in anyway putting people down for the choices they made in their life that had no real negative effect on anyone but themselves.
If anything, I'm a better person then most for having done what I done. I as some might put it, have been to 'hell' (which I don't think is the case), and am still standing strong. I understand these drugs and what they do more then anyone who wags a finger saying 'thats bad!' and puts their bootprint on your back afterwards. People need to open their mind, everyone. And no I'm not telling people to go out and smoke weed (harmless), or go out and take 2 hits of ACID and watch the walls. People have their opinions but it's just that, opinions. People need to learn, simply put. People need to learn, to understand.
On a side note, the drug war is an utter and complete failure, it only hurts people, and wastes billions annually on a fight never to be won. On a fight based on nothing more then fear and misunderstanding; ignorance.
Think about it.
Thanks for the replies guys, the only drug i've ever tried was weed, and after researching it, it's not quite as bad as tons of people think it is, or what i used to think of it. Not that i think people should do it or anything. And about the subconciouse thing, i was just curiouse after i heard it somewhere on the net.
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Originally Posted by Maus [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Wow, kind of arrogant, don't you think? I'm not going to villianize people who have chosen to experiment with drugs, but I am certainly not going to elevate them, either. Neither should you.
Think about it.
I think the only one to have ever tried the "complete candystore" would be Alexander ShulginQuote:
Originally Posted by alidile [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I highly doubt that was MDMA you were experiencing if it was a bad "trip" you had, I don't know anyone who has had a bad "trip" from straight up molly
I would like to add to this that I strongly believe that marijuana DOES, indeed, have a marked effect, especially if used regularly over many years. The comment that it "does nothing to you" is irresponsible.
I think this effect is best described as an emotional attenuator. Smoking out dulls your mind and if you do it daily, for years, it makes it more difficult to engage with others, IMO, just like any other mind-altering substance will.
I've done plenty of drugs (though not quite as many different kinds as Maus) and I am by no means anti-drug, but I think that the general consensus that pot does nothing to you is infuriating.
I agree wholeheartedly that the War on Drugs is pointless and evil.
Xanax, Cannabis, Vicodin, Ritalin, Concerta, Aderol, Psychedelic Mushrooms (a real life experience for me), LSD, Cocaine, Alcohol, Salvia... Heroine.
for a minute salvia looked like saliva lol
I personally don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Most people if someone having said they smoked weed or snorted coke, will most likely turn to you with a look of disgust, shrug you off as some kind of lesser person, call you weak, or take it a step further. That's just it, that's most people. I'm not saying I'm better then them as people, I'm saying I understand better then most people. Those people draw fanatical conclusions based on fear of something they TRUELY have no concept or comprehension of; Thus the drug war we are waging now. Or should I say this government is with my tax dollars.
I did think about it.
Well, I am from California, and out here we only shrug off people who have experimented with drugs if they are somehow more enlightened than the rest of the world because they got high. I mean, we've even had presidents and presidential nominees that have gotten high. It isn't the least bit remarkable.
Good point. But accepting the fact other people have experimented or do drugs isn't the same as understanding why someone people made those choices, for what reasons, and the fact that they aren't automatically bad people for doing so. They can still hold themselves and most often in my experience do hold themselves above others for the choices they know or feel they know that they made in their life. There's no way to force people to accept others, and no way to make people realize that no, they AREN'T better 'just because' this or that.Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I was regarding to most people, and unless there's some kind of conspiracy-type explanation for why the drug war is still going on or why this or that type of substance is still illegal, then most people do in fact hold themselves above others and in fact feel other people should be PUNISHED, sent to jail, fined, arrested etc. for the things they chose for one reason or another to put 'this' in their body.
See what I'm saying?
Could be because it is illegal...
Of course, where I live, you don't spend much time (if any) for possessing drugs. You do for dealing them, though.
Where in Canada do you live
I live in Rochester and go to Ontario a lot
You two should get together.
Drugs are a poor choice in life, not very smart people. No wisdom what so ever.
I can take you out for dinner next time I'm in TorontoQuote:
Originally Posted by alidile [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Would you be up for that?
Yes, do it! Do it!
I've meet people in real life before who I previously knew online. One was with a guy who was actually in my clan and I gamed with for more than a year and finally met up with him because he only lives 20 minutes away. All you do is go to a public place like Tim Hortons and tell the person beforehand "I'm the guy in red!"
Alidile has a phobia of public places, if I remember correctly. Come on Ali, live a little!
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