Printable View
Since Obama has become President, do you guys think that some black people should quit giving reasons for their failure is because of their skin color? Because being Obama as the president now really displays that it doesn’t matter what color you are, anybody can make it.
Are you kidding?
Do you know how many rednecks want to lynch that dude?!
he's not going to last more than 4 years...
just my 2 cents.
Many black people don't even have opportunities to make something of themselves, as an effect from America's history. It is simply ignorant of you to say that they are making excuses for their failure.
Racism exists now, and it will always exist. Between every race. Even if the majority isn't.
unfortunately racism and prejudice will exist for the forseeable future due to ignorance and need for power over others
its not just against black/mixed race/yellow/sexual orientation and caucasian's but also wealthy/poor...basically anyone who can have power over another and use an excuse to get what they want
I would hope Obama's presidency dissolves the defeatist attitude so many folks develop. It'll certainly be nice to have something to throw in the faces of anyone who thinks they can't do any better because of the "white devil" or the man or whatever other excuse they concoct to justify their fear and unwillingness to pursue their goals.
I agree; more abstractly, people who are insulted by such things, have only misunderstood.
What a stupid thread
Just to close, I think I'd like to see an end to racism. However, so long as there are groups larger than 3 ppl, one will never be able to get rid of preference. Even in 'pure' societies you will encounter things like nepotism, which is a particular form of preference. For that reason I agree w/Zilla, this is a stupid thread b/c its a concept that will never truly go away. And if it did, it would be at huge cost to individuality. There are dystopia books written about this specific idea as warning. There is some merit to striving for one's achievements.
Who wouldn't like to see the end of racism? Anyone? Well **** you, your opinions don't matter :P
I'd like to see the end of sexism too, but it isn't going to happen in my lifetime, if ever. I'd be a fool to let it stop me doing what I want to, tho.
In a perfect society, those prejudices could exist without interfering with everyone's freedom.
In a perfect society, we would all donate the appropriate portion of our salary & income tax wouldn't be necessary, like in Eco's thread.
Society isn't perfect, so what is your point?
Exactly, society is not perfect, so don't sell your hopes on it. Your attitude is the same attitude that every undermined person should have; black people, white people, men, women, children, everyone.
My point is that I wasn't undermined. Not really, it was just my perception. Sure, in hindsight I suppose there were more guys doing hard science but that just made it easier to get dates. There's always a silver lining someplace. ;)
I don't really believe anyone in Western society & access to public education doesn't have the ability to achieve. If someone like Oprah, (a woman, a minority, grew up poor & abused) can make it, then others can too.
I don't think this was a reason *before* Obama.Quote:
Since Obama has become President, do you guys think that some black people should quit giving reasons for their failure is because of their skin color?
I bet there will now be an army of rednecks going around poor african american neighbourhoods telling them to stop being poor becaue there's now an african american president in the office :D
I've often admired Eminem's way of making good with da hood. He was really up against some huge racial odds, there. :P
That's it, what kind of scientist listens to Eminem and Rage Against the Machine?Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I love Rage.
This is probably one of the most ignorant threads i have read on here so far. Please tell me you are joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by pythongrace [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Anyway, I'm obviously offended by this thread because I am black. Other than that, it pisses me off when people make such ignorant remarks speaking as an outsider(another race). Even here in St Thomas there'sracism against blacks and majority of the population is black. Go into a jewelry store JUST to look around and they follow you around with their eyes and you get so uncomfortable that you end up just leaving. Being constantly looked down upon makes it even harder. Dont even let me get on getting jobs.
Now I know there are some black people who use slavery days and all that bullshit as an excuse, but not all. So grouping all black people as failures because of making excuses was really shitty on your part.
Anyway, as for racism, it will never be over. There will still be tons of stereotypes, racial remarks, and prejudice people. Matter of fact it just may get worse. One slip up from Obama and I wont hear the end of "Well what do you expect from a nigger" comments.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LadieNisha4u2nv [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
You know, this struck me as an example of people just trying to FIND racism.
Why not just be happy for what Obama has accomplished. I think it's great he's been elected, and I hope he will become a role model for EVERY person from every race.
I've been prejudiced against for being caucasian countless times. Yeah, that's right.....for being CAUCASIAN. I don't look for it though, and I don't let it get to me. More people need to adopt this attitude.
I've been called a honkey a few times in my day, too. The funny thing is that I am not a honkey. My blood isn't just European.
I've been refused service in a couple of asian restaurants (we have a very high asian population where I live). I was told they didn't serve MY KIND. Nice. I just laughed at their ignorance. It's funny because I think asians are great. Too bad they don't feel the same. C'est la vie.
I would have made a squinty Asian face at them and said in a mimicking voice "Me rove you rrong time. No my kind?"
I didn't feel like getting gangland-style executed in the parking lot.
Which is also pretty common here.
Just tell them you know kung fu, make a cool pose, and run away.
Wow, I practically live in asian restaurants when I go out with friends and I've never seen THAT before. And this was in Vancouver?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesummer [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
White people who voted for McCain = 65%
White people who voted for Obama = 35%
Black people who voted for McCain = 5%
Black people who voted for Obama = 95%
Racism is 2 ways.............
BUTQuote:
Originally Posted by To0C0oL [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Registered white voters who voted for white presidents in all past elecetions before 2008 = 100%
Registered black voters who voted for white presidents in all past elecetions before 2008 = 100%
How does that compute into your definition of racism?
I am not even going to argue because those statistics are too ****ing ambiguous.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Richmond, more specifically. It wasn't just me, it's happened to friends of mine too.
Are you ****ing serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
So because there hasn't been a black Presidential nominee, that means this entire country was racist up until the year 2008?
Those numbers are absolutely PATHETIC .. A ****ing 95 year old black woman voted for the first time in her life because a black man was running..
This race was about nothing but race to the "black people" and those numbers show it perfectly clear..
Way to go America, voting on whats really important!
Mishanya's point was that your statistics were also ambiguous.
Those stats are taken directly off of MSNBC.com
There is nothing ambiguous about them.. Its pretty point blank..
Yes ambiguous, because a ****ing population of people who vote for a certain candidate does not mean they are racist or have a prejudice against a candidate because of the color of their skin. For example, I voted for Obama simply because I think he's a ****ing great candidate who will get the damn job done. I'm 'white' and I'm not racist.
Are you serious?
Your words not mineQuote:
Originally Posted by To0C0oL [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
That's pretty much what you're saying according to your interprettation of statistics
i hope he's drunk or sleep-deprived or something. wowwwww
Quote:
Originally Posted by LadieNisha4u2nv [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I hope what I said didn't come out as offensive. I just know too many people who are black or Hispanic and who feel they can't make it because of XYZ and I think that's the biggest crock ever. They don't make it because they never try. My dad came from Cuba and busted his ass to make good money. My friend's dad came from Estonia without a penny in his pocket. He couldn't speak a word of English but he busted his own ass, went to college and became a rocket scientist. Just because you're an immigrant or your skin tone is darker than another man's does NOT mean you can't become whatever you want and it does not mean you can't earn a good living.
A lot of these people aren't looking for excuses; they genuinely believe that there is no hope for them, hence why they don't try harder. I mean, yeah the truth is that anyone can make whatever they want of themselves - the unfortunate thing is so few people are aware of this; even people who go to college.
It's sad to see this happen with native Americans in the area, as they continue to make bad decisions; these people were out hunting buffalo on horseback in harsh weather, were masters of living off the land. Look at them now, though, gambling all of their money at casinos, buying cheap booze so they can be too drunk to ignore their kids when they get home. It's sad. I mean, we have only one thing to blame for that; and they honestly don't have much of a choice.
Hey Grib, my post was towards the OP's post. I didnt take yours to offense seeing as you didnt label all black people as the people who blame white people for why they arent making it. Like I said in my post, there are black people like that, but the OP made it to seem as if ALL black people are that way, so thats why I got offended. I know I'm bussin my ass to make it somewhere in life specifically for my daughter, so for someone to sit behind their computer screen and talk shit like that, I'm bound to get offended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
You know it's all love from me to you Gribble :D
EDIT: Ok, I looked back at the original post and saw that he said some in his post, so I guess my being offended can come to an end cuz I'm not in the percentage of some black people who arent taking an initiative to better themselves.