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i noticed in my time with some pretty wealthy people in connecticut and upstate new york that they are in general a lot more miserable than people from around where i am from, which is one of the poorest states in the u.s.
they have beautiful homes, beautiful cars, beautiful people with beautiful children. and yet they seem so incredibly unhappy.
they seem more used to being sad and miserable, like it's normal or something.
does anyone else notice this, or is it just me?
Yes i see it all the time as well. Had friends who were like that as well and kinda stopped being friends with them for those reasons exactly...They had everything yet they always complained about something and lived such depressing lives...Money can only buy temporary happiness..eventually those things like cars and houses and such...leave you empty..
coz they work too hard to get those material things, they don't get to spend time with each other appreciating life and their children. they are like ants work work work, money money money and hey presto :status!! but no happy families. no wonder they are not happy
they are gonna need that money with the heart attacks from stress they get....whats the point of it all then
I would be depressed if I lived in New York too. Shit; people everywhere, tall buildings, paved ground always underneath one's feet... it's like a gigantic mirror revealing the redundancy of human existence.
Whoa! That was Asip! Long time no post, dude.
And yes, I think rich people are very often some miserable mother****ers.
it's kinda sad.Quote:
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that's a possible explaination.Quote:
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new york is not just manhattan. manhattan is just a small island in new york. the rest of new york. there are some very beautiful, spacious homes on spacious pieces of land. very very expensive houses. the poor people are out in the buroughs.Quote:
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totallly.Quote:
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yea it's been a few years...nice to see there's still quite a few regulars showing up.
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Upstate is not NYC.Quote:
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I think there's a difference between those who grew up rich and those who were poor then became rich.
I feel like those "privileged" folk don't appreciate the things they have as much because they just feel it's normal to have everything. While poor folks that work hard and make a lot of money learn to appreciate their blessings more.
I think people feel really good when they give money to the needy. I would like to help these sad rich people by offering them a place to send cash. My house.
I've noticed that people who sacrifice a lot to get rich come from a background where they are not happy with themselves unless they can prove their worth with status or possessions. Getting money for them has little to do with satisfying their wants or needs, but to show their worthy of love that wasn't given to them by their peers or their parents. And people like that will never be happy because they have a hole in their soul.
Hole in their soul? that's a little extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
i talked about this concept with my friend before.
we both came from privileged backgrounds and then we went into the workforce starting from the bottom just like everyone. and we both noticed how the less privileged are obsessed with money even when they made more than us, it was never enough. my friend and i are a lot more relaxed about money, as long as we are happy and sufficient and can afford a bit of fun sometimes then we are content. i think the less privileged suffer in all ways from when they suffered growing up and from self inflicted suffering trying to prove oneself and make more and more money, the stress eventually kills them in the end.
we really need to change the way society works
well, they tried communism already.
it doesn't have to be communism
i certainly am not advocating communism. it was just an observation.
these people, most of them, are not mean and are just average people. they're just not as happy and satisfied with their lives as some of the less fortunate people i know. they have more drama. they have nice stuff though. too bad you can't take all that to your grave.
Statistically, rich people are no more happy than those who aren't wealthy ...
Money and happiness don't seem to go hand in hand at any point.Quote:
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If you live your life chasing money, there's no secret to why you're unhappy. I don't think its possible to be rich AND be happy because no one derives happiness by chasing dollar bills.
That's kind of a weird statement, but think of it this way. I love my motorcycle, its freedom and exhilaration for me. I can buy all the bikes in the world, but it wont give me the skills to pilot one which is where the fun truely comes from. You can buy the accessories, but the happiness comes from something you can't buy.
A lot of people think material wealth will help them find happiness. Truth is, they haven't taken the time to enjoy the simple pleasures, they're too damn obsessed with making money or being important. They think they will gain admiration from people for their status, but fail to realize how lonely it is really is at the top. People don't appreciate them for who they are, just for what they have, and they take advantage.
I would like to have lots of money, sure. But first and foremost I would want a great spouse and great connections with family and friends, and the ability to enjoy stuff that doesn't require a lot of money. Any money I made would just be there to help out future generations. I came from a less privileged background, and have had to work hard to get somewhere in the world. I'd like to at least HELP my kids pay for university. A little.
Mind over matter. Happiness is about how you look at life, not what life have to offer you.
thanks everybody.
i was talking to an east coasterner today. her theory is that the people find no appreciation for rest and relaxation. they're always working and doing this or that. everything has to be crazy all the time and they're all stressed out and ragged.
i found that to be interesting.
going there really made me appreciate my life here.
Its stress and a bit of 'nothing to compare it to', I think. People only compare to what's immediately around them, for the most part. If that happens to be wealthy folk, then that is your yardstick for measurement.Quote:
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There's a better phrase for describing that^ but I forgot what it is.
I never really appreciated my life until I started to travel to 3rd world countries. It wasn't until then that things really hit home for me how fortunate we are.
Its like that quote:
If you threw your problems into a pile with everyone else's, you'd snatch back yours.
As I get older, I am appreciating simplicity in things much, much more. One can always make things more complex, but simplifying things to its most elegant parts...ah, that's worth making happen.
On that note, the stress and bustle seems to be a more East coast thing. The West coast is a busy place, but it doesn't feel crazy like the East coast does.Quote:
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The f*ck?!Quote:
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Why did I think you were from Australia??
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QphglQu3oL0"]YouTube - Johnny Cash - A Satisfied Mind[/ame]
I used to think working my ass off and being busy constantly made me productive and therefore better off. Then I realized I was thinking like a communist.
Now I enjoy a sleep in on the weekends, days off with nothing planned, having family come over and chill out and bbq. Work and money now seem trivial next to these things.
Because it has said Location: Boise, Idaho since I created my account? Lol Fras....Quote:
Originally Posted by Frasbee [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
that's because they can afford the better drugs and the depression stages are a lot harder to kick.. c'mon, you don't hear about people getting all depressed over weed do you?
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