The thread title should be enough, I've got nothing more to say.
The thread title should be enough, I've got nothing more to say.
That is not enough of a post to answer.
Yes. Girls just care about penis size.
Giga, don't forget the size of the wallet.
Oh, yeah. We're pretty much pants-centered, including the pockets.
I look for big bulges, and it better not be in the gut.
Overall?
Yeah, probably.
Depends on the person and it doesn't really matter what you are packing between your legs. I mean in order to be in a relationship you have to find the person you are with attractive but at the same time what is attractive is different for every person.
I knew a woman who thought Drew Carey was the sexiest man in the world and only dated guys that looked like him...I didn't get it she had an amazing body and beautiful face...its just what she is into.
Me personally I think many different types of women are beautiful....generally the quickest quality that can make me completely unattracted to a woman is simply stupidity/ignorance....or an irritating laugh.
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Originally Posted by dewilliams2 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Soooo true. anytime I see a dirty blond guy with sunglasses playing Frisbee or something like that I instantly think he is a self absorbed asshole. If a guy is sarcastic and got a geek vibe going for him I am instantly attracted to him.
If I were to choose by looks alone I would go for mediocre looking guys because I consider myself mediocre and I dont need any guy thinking they could do better than me ;P Yet as stereotypical as it sounds I prefer choosing by personality because if I date any guy long enough then he becomes the most attractive guy to me -_-
Honestly I think the same thing about guys like that....every time me and my gf see a guy lookin like he was pulled out of an Amercrombie catalogue one of us usually says something like "douche", or "tool"...I know he could be a nice guy but usually those guys have their head so far up their own asses they aren't. I hate people who try to be cool....just be yourself and don't be afraid to admit your into the lamest shit...its that kind of stuff that makes you interesting and cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I know. That is a huge reason why I dont get jealous much, because if my boyfriend and I see some chick thats really attractive, we both assume she has zero intelligence and cares about looks alone.
For me to feel threatened you have to have a nice body, really pretty face and hair, be athletic, intelligent and be laid back. Needless to say I dont feel threatened much, which is kindve sad..
Why assume and if someone is really attractive, that they have zero intelligence?Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Dumbos are to be found among the attractive and the less appealing to the eye.
Just as intelligent people are to be found among the attractive and not so attractive.
And in the presence of a 'hot' woman, men don't really care whether she may be a bimbo or not. He's more thinking that he'd like to bed her, rather than be thinking "I wonder how intelligent she is".....LOL
Honestly I have to disagree I have to find a woman intelligent. I was with my parents a few months back and a beautiful woman was talking to me and I was flirting with her and she said the dumbest thing I've ever heard and that was it...I was done. My parents were laughing at me cause they could tell as soon as she said that I had decided I wasn't interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxazurexx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I find that I'd rather have an average looking intelligent and funny woman than the most beautiful retard you can find.
Wat me and BTR were talkin about was that there is that group of people who just dress a certain way and act a certain way that is just really ****ing annoying....You've seen the Ambercrombie and Finch catalogs right?
I mean I don't know her personally but from her descriptions of herself I think we generally fall into about the same crowd....I'm just making a guess here.
But me and my friends find things interesting that are unusual, nerdy, under the table, not well known.
I'd rather see the things that are underground and hidden as opposed to the things that everybody else walks into and looks at everyday....its just boring and overdone.
I agree good looking people are not all stupid. I find myself both intelligent and good looking but I'm not a self absorbed d-bag....and thats the quality I most dislike about the people we are talking about.
I had a conversation with a guy not long ago who is about 60 now. He is homeless, was in Vietnam, spent some time in Ireland. He knew almost as much about history as I did and I have a degree in it....he just had amazing stories, whether real or not he is an interesting guy.
Then I met a guy the other night who dresses like I was describing but I talked to him anyways and he wanted to talk music. I mentioned I was going to see Norma Jean and Everytime I die... Then I said I'm also gonna go see the Dead Weather...once again he said he knew who they were...but after talking to him longer it was quite clear he didn't know what the **** I was talking about...he was trying to be cool. I would have rather the guy just said "I don't know who that is"....its that act of trying to be cool that pisses me off....just be yourself.
I think so, cause we can be more interested in who they are (assuming they're clean and groomed and all, haha) and what they do, where guys have to get past the looks in order to do that.
I wasn't saying that some men don't want intelligence in a woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilliams2 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
What I was saying, is that when a guy sees a woman for the very first time who he thinks is stunning, (before he has even spoken to her), he is more likely to be thinking he'd like to bed her, rather than be thinking 'I'd like a long term relationship with her'.....
If there is interest after the physical attraction and he's wanting to pursue, then of course he is going to be looking for other qualities that he likes....
To write a beautfiul woman off as having 'zero intelligence' (as bluetippedrose and her bf do) and before she has even opened her mouth, is IMO PATHETIC........
As would most men, I would imagine.....Quote:
I find that I'd rather have an average looking intelligent and funny woman than the most beautiful retard you can find.
No I havn't actually, I'm in the UK, so I don't have a clue what Finch and Ambercrombie is.Quote:
Wat me and BTR were talkin about was that there is that group of people who just dress a certain way and act a certain way that is just really ****ing annoying....You've seen the Ambercrombie and Finch catalogs right?
However, I'm thinking that you still can't judge people based upon something simple as the kind of clothing they may wear, or the hairstyle they may have, etc.
I kinda used to be the same in that I would judge people upon appearance and write them off as being 'one and the same'. But when I got to know some of these people, I was pleasantly surprised. They were unlike I'd imagined them to be....
As I said, I made my post in reply to bluetipped roses comment, in that she and her bf stereotype ALL attractive women as having 'zero intelligence'. And I would disagree that all attractive people are 'self absorbed'....some are, some are not.Quote:
I agree good looking people are not all stupid. I find myself both intelligent and good looking but I'm not a self absorbed d-bag....and thats the quality I most dislike about the people we are talking about.
Some of the most attractive people I have ever known, have been people who do not even realise they are attractive and while not 'arrogant' and 'self absorbed', they instead have possessed a 'quiet confidence'......
You actually spoke to these two different people though and judged them based upon spending time in their presence and talking to them.Quote:
I had a conversation with a guy not long ago who is about 60 now. He is homeless, was in Vietnam, spent some time in Ireland. He knew almost as much about history as I did and I have a degree in it....he just had amazing stories, whether real or not he is an interesting guy.
Then I met a guy the other night who dresses like I was describing but I talked to him anyways and he wanted to talk music. I mentioned I was going to see Norma Jean and Everytime I die... Then I said I'm also gonna go see the Dead Weather...once again he said he knew who they were...but after talking to him longer it was quite clear he didn't know what the **** I was talking about...he was trying to be cool. I would have rather the guy just said "I don't know who that is"....its that act of trying to be cool that pisses me off....just be yourself.
You didn't simply didn't spot them in a crowd and jump to the conclusion that the Vietnamese guy was trash and the Ambercrombie guy was a dickhead.....which I'm thinking bluetippedrose may have done.
I don't think we can judge anyone and until we do what you did, which is to make some effort to get to know them and then perhaps form an opinion.
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You haven't met my boyfriend. He is like me. We're not the kind of people to see someone really hot and immediately think we want to or what it would be like to fu(k them, we're thinking "how good of a time could you honestly have with someone who cannot hold an intelligent conversation?"
And by me assuming seeing someone gorgeous is an airhead is the exact same as you assuming that when guys see a pretty girl they're thinking of sex, stereotyping
Half of the though what xxazurexx says it's true despite stereotypes, or otherwise our entertainment, advertisement, etc and such wouldn't display such 'sex'. I knew statistics pointed out that most guys would bed a woman without a head as long as she had a hot body. And dating advice saying women need to show at least 40% of their body to attract guys. Not sure about your boyfriend, but you better be sure you know what you are saying about him. Maybe you think you know him, but you don't know what's going on in his head. I'm just saying. Or maybe you guys are hot already so anyone else is just lesser degree. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
As for attractive people looking as unintelligent. I actually see that quite the opposite happening. In fact i have known people to think ugly people are unintelligent.
I think there is a huge communication gap here. The way I see it, dw and I were talking about personal stereotyping and we implied to each other that of course there are exceptions. I know not all beautiful people are stupid. Then xxzurexx did not understand our implications to each other and said how wrong it was to assume all pretty people are stupid and then youlf started bringing up why men and woman are attracted to each other or something along those lines...
Dw and I were coming at this from a cognitive viewpoint and you guys came at it from a evolutionary viewpoint and I didn't want to get all technical about the evolutionary side, hip to waist ratios and what have you. Though I am curious about the statistics you found because last time I researched psychosocial behavior I found that the face is the very first thing a man looks at. Maybe Im giving guys way too much credit but I think there is more going on then wanting to have sex with every person they lay their eyes on.
No one said 'every' person.....the ones that visually appeal/or there is a physical assett that appeals, for the majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
While men will notice the face, he's also noticing how the big or shapely the boobs are, how huge the ass is, how long the legs are, etc,etc. These things visually stimulate men and turn him on (unless he's gay) and will explain why tons and tons of men view and watch porn and why porn is a huge industry. For some men, a woman doesn't need a pretty face, but just needs to have a great set of tits for a man to be able to have sex with her. Which explains why after sex, he can easily walk away from her.....
It was her tits that got his interest, not the face or the person behind the tits.....
So many men are not looking for committment, but they instead prefer the benefits that a relationship brings, ie; FWB situations, one night stands, sex outside of committment and with some 'easy 'woman who thinks the man is in love with her and because he will stick around and have sex with her. When the woman then decides to confront him with the 'talk' and 'where this is going'...the man sometimes distances and because there is nothing other than this 'physical' attraction that makes him want to committ. Most men don't need the 'emotional' to be with a woman, as most women need the 'emotional' to be with a man. When a mans lust fades for the woman and there is nothing else to keep him there....he's outta there.
As men get older though, for a lot there is a desire to actually want to find the right one and committ to a relationship. But in the process, he would still continue to have FWB sex with that woman with the nice shapely arse and until he meets the woman who manages to capture more than just his physical interest in her.....
Which is why women are told in these forums time and time again.....NEVER give up sex too soon or too early and until at least, you know that you and the guy are on the same page and he's not just after sex....
It is clear that you have been conditioned into thinking men are only after one thing. You basically said there is no such thing as love and relationships are women-delusions.
From an evolutionary standpoint I agree that men seek woman that have youthful bodies that suggest healthy reproduction.
From an evolutionary standpoint I also agree that men are much less emotionally impacted after one-night stands because they were meant to spread their genetics while woman were meant to nurture.
It is a bit tricky following along with you when you say:
" When a mans lust fades for the woman and there is nothing else to keep him there....he's outta there."
and then you say:
"until at least, you know that you and the guy are on the same page and he's not just after sex...."
Because the first quote and 99% of your post is suggesting that men want woman to have sex with and there is no need for anything emotional. And then the second quote suggests finding the right one, someone he isnt just after sex with, denoting that there is something else there other than sex! youre just not admitting it!! But you know there is because guys wouldnt venture onto this love forum if everything was purely about sex ;)
I see on your profile that you are female so I am curious to know, you must have had some very bad experiences with men. Im assuming, maybe wrongfully I dont know you, that you have been cheated on before
I dont recall saying anywhere, that it is just and solely about SEX...
What I said was, is that the very first time a man will set eyes on a woman that physically appeals, he is thinking SEX.....
What happens after that initial attraction, depends upon a if a guy has any interest other than in shagging her, to want to take it further...
If there is nothing after the initial attraction, he doesn't stick around. If there is, then of course he's gonna stick around....DOH!!
You seem to have totally missed the point of what I was saying.
Anyways, you continue to live in your 'narrow minded cuckoo land' the one in which you think all beautiful women are bimbos and the one in which you think that every man who glances at your ass, must mean he's in love with you and I will continue to live in the 'real' one........uhm, LOL...haha
So you HAVE been cheated on before!
^^LOL....decided to stoop to 'personally attacking' eh??
But then that is what people usually do and when they lose control of an argument.
Your avatar suits you 'Ignorance is BLISS'....ahhh :) How old are you? 16?
Thanked 19 times in 13 of your 935 posts......pretty much says it all, hahaha
I wouldn't consider what I said 'personally attacking' in the least. This is more of a personal attack:
Mine was more an assumption I made based on your subconscious negative attitude toward men .Quote:
Originally Posted by xxazurexx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
And all my "thanks" disappeared when LF updated layouts, Im 21
In my opinion you were being personal and when probing for details of my private life, which is none of your business.Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
The views expressed in this thread, have nothing to do with what I may have encountered in life, but come from reading various articles, books in general on the male psych and having visited internet forums for over 10 years and reading the experiences of others and sharing experiences with others.
21 eh...still young and I'm figuring, a lot to learn.
Giving and receiving advice, even if it is for ten years, is not the same as studying the male psyche. I can tell you haven't formally studied it just by how you said this:
You took me saying that you have been cheated on as a personal attack when instead it was a deduction I made from reading the subtleties in not just posts of yours in this thread but in other threads as well. You were subconsciously leaving little hints. Saying that the views you've expressed in this thread have nothing to do with what you've encountered in life is like saying something that a person does or says has nothing to do with what they are thinking. Not to say that Ive studied the male psyche of course, just basic human psychology.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxazurexx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
A person never stops learning regardless of ageQuote:
Originally Posted by xxazurexx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
So the fact I may have been cheated on, is down to the Porn industry existing is it? I see. The fact I may have been cheated upon, will explain why men are 'visual' beings, who are turned on and by the visual? Why men will look at a beautiful women and imagine what it would like to be with her 'sexually'....? Because this is what I was basically saying....
I think you need to get over yourself and come to terms with the fact, that while your boyfriend plays along with you and may agree with your idiotic stance that 'all attractive women are dumb',(and then you dare ridicule my posts...lol)... he's more likely to be secretly thinking 'I wouldn't mind giving her one'.....LOL.
Of course, he'd never admit this to you.
Like I said, 21, still young and little life experience...
I have nothing left to say to you.
okay Ill stoop to your level.
You HAVE been cheated on and I don't blame him. You are narcissistic and cannot see from anyone else's viewpoints.
And you have no idea what I have and have not experienced. At least I'm not a middle-aged woman wasting ten years on forums because I can't get friends in person. That you've basically told me.
and one other thing. I said about four times that I was stereotyping and making implications about all pretty woman being stupid. I know not all pretty woman are stupid! At least I can admit that I am generalizing a group of people unlike you speaking on behalf of all mankind!
I mean no one knows men better than a woman that cant keep one
I'm early 30's actually....hardly middle aged.Quote:
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If I'd had to sit in a forum when I was your age, I'd have hung myself. At the age of 22 I was married with a child on the way. Prior to that, I spent my years from 17 too 22, not sitting in internet forums, but going out into the real world and enjoying myself with friends.
ZZZZzzzz whatever child....Quote:
and one other thing. I said about four times that I was stereotyping and making implications about all pretty woman being stupid. I know not all pretty woman are stupid! At least I can admit that I am generalizing a group of people unlike you speaking on behalf of all mankind!
Okay you said that you've been posting in forums for ten years and if you're in your early 30's, that means in your early 20's you were on forums! Now you're contradicting yourself.
Also the act of having a child is nothing to be proud of, anyone can do it. I am smart enough to use birth control.
As for marriage, the option for me is open but I think 21 years of age is a little young to make such a big commitment. I don't want to end up regretting it, I take vows a little more seriously than that.
And you still cant admit itQuote:
Originally Posted by xxazurexx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Uhm, yeah....isn't 22, the early twenties?? That is when my ex husband bought me the pc and I'd log on...and I've been logging on since. I spend a lot of time online, because my profession is web and graphic design and I frequent other places inbetween....like this lovely place for instance:)Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodtippedrose [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Didn't need to use birth control love...my child was planned and wanted and is my world :)Quote:
Also the act of having a child is nothing to be proud of, anyone can do it. I am smart enough to use birth control.
As for marriage, the option for me is open but I think 21 years of age is a little young to make such a big commitment. I don't want to end up regretting it, I take vows a little more seriously than that.
Getting married young, isn't something I regret, it would be to regret having my daughter otherwise. In the course of the marriage there were some really, really good times and some bad times....the same with a lot of marriages really. Very few will be 'perfect'.....
We all walk into our marriages with the best intentions, we all take the vows seriously and no matter at what stage of life we marry. But nothing in life other than death and taxes can be predicted and what we least expected to happen, can and sometimes does happen.
Whatever I have been through, bears no reflection on who or what I am today though. I'm quite a forgiving person who rarely holds grudges. I never dwell upon the bad, nor allow things to get me down, but view it that sometimes things are just not meant to be, shit can and does happen...but life goes on regardless.
So you would have hung yourself if you were sitting on forums when you were 21 but one year later it makes all the difference?Quote:
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Im a full time student in graphic design. Thats why I spend all day on a computer.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxazurexx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
you'd have to elaborate this for me. Our pasts shape who we are today.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxazurexx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
That`s a weird question. Does the sun settle in the west?...
I don't think it's a matter of men vs. women, but a matter of individuals. Everything in this world is relative. How we interpret the way someone looks, or someone acts, or the things someone says is directly related to our own experiences, emotions, and thoughts. If you've been cheated on multiple times, you will most likely have a very negative view of relationships. That doesn't mean you are wrong to feel that way, but it does mean that an experience you had has affected and possibly changed you. This can happen positively and negatively.
I sometimes find myself stereotyping. For example, there is a particular neighborhood in San Diego called Pacific Beach or "PB". When you go to PB you'll typically find "douche bag" stereotypes wearing board shorts, tattoos, flip flops and polo t-shirts, or walking around shirtless. The girls all have tramp stamps, cut-off short shorts, bikinis, and huge designer shades and stick straight hair. These are stereotypes. Based on my experiences with people who dress like this, I don't like these people. They seem to be prone to drinking until they pass out, and spouting vapid ramblings. Does this mean they are all like that? No. But like I said, I've had many experiences that lead me to believe I should avoid those people altogether.
Men are generally stereotyped as being the more "visual" sex, and it is said they can feel aroused just from looking at an attractive female. The flip side is that while women may notice a good looking man, she doesn't feel that same spark of arousal unless she knows there is more to the guy than how he looks.
Honestly, I very rarely find any male to be strikingly handsome. My boyfriend struck me as otherworldly gorgeous when I first saw him, and it just so happened that he had a remarkable personality as well. Lucky lucky find. I never go out to bars or clubs or anywhere and see a man that stops me dead in my tracks. And I have dated men that pale in comparison to my current boyfriend. One guy was rather skinny, with very little upper body build, but I fell in love with his personality and the positive things I found in his looks. Another ex of mine was on the heavier side and likewise his personality hooked me, and the physical attributes that I really loved shined through automatically.
It seems that in order to feel interested and STAY interested long enough to get to know a woman, a guy has to be visually stimulated, meaning he has to be attracted to her. If she can't hold his attention visually, he will never talk to her. HOWEVER, this situation changes if two people are thrown together in a situation that encourages them to engage for reasons other than finding each other physically attractive. If you're in a club, or a bar, a guy is most likely only going to approach you if he finds you physically attractive. Those settings don't exactly cultivate the desire for deep, personal discussions.
All my boyfriends had something very different about them and were never traditionally good looking.
That's why I think your taste in love is very much related to your own personality.
For example, I've always like anything different...always been drawn to the odd choice...
My first bfriend had a freakish face I think, with big tender but bulky eyes ( a bit like a frog)...I loved him dearly...
My other significant bfriend I don't think he ever had a waist...beer belly...a third nipple and one of his ear was like chewed on...
I am now attracted to a man I wish would be taller although he is taller than me...I wish he were slightly younger too but despite all the doubts I find him hugely attractive...
I am also usually turned on by voices...I don't know if men are the same about that...I could date a man just based on the sound of his voice!!!!
I'd like a potential partner to be attractive enough to want to have sex with. I don't know if that helps or not.
Men care more about looks than women. For two reasons:
1. Biological wiring.
2. Status.
because men derive status from the attractiveness of their partner. Women don't so much. Women derive status from their own attractiveness.
If a woman is with a male of much lesser attractiveness, people will generally assume it's because he has a great personality or is rich.
If a man is with a woman of substantially lesser attractiveness people generally think it's because he's a loser, and he can't do better.
Conversley, if a guy is with a girl more attractive than he is, people assume he's a bit of a legend.
no, not at all i don't think so
well, im not going to date a munter.
haha, and nor should you Qwert.
Did you end up going out with that guy from the gym?