I really like this girl, on a forum, but am worried I have screwed it up

I have fallen for this girl on a forum, and I am really chewing up over her.

I am a fan of The Kinks, and I joined up last year in october, after my Grandad died, I guess I just wanted to rant and rave on there with one querstion, but ended up a regular. I live in London, she lives in Eng;and too,not too far.

There is this girl on there, who is beautiful (to me) and intetresting. She has good taste in music and movies, and is intelligent. I started really liking her, then sratted thereads (lol, especially for her to post in) . She did post in them, especially my movie one, and we responded a lot to each other. I have seen her picture on one of her blogs (not that she knows) and she has seen mine on my you tube video.

I sensed in some of her posts that she liked me, not anything suggestive, but some of the wording. Only in a few.

I told one of the older forumers, in her 50's who has been lovley about it, giving me advice. She even guessed who it was I liked before I even told her, as she said she sensed "vibes" between us.

I went away to New York in March, and the week before I went she stopped coming on, and she was off fior a few weeks. It was her birthday when I came back from holiday, as it notifies you in the forum, so I started a birthday thread for her.

When she came back, she started responding to my posts like never before, reccommending me films when I spoke about them, in the threads, replying to my posts even if they were aimless.

One day in April, she posted a message in one of the threads, in public, out of the blue. I never discussed this with her in this thread, but she said this "'@ Night'sBeforeMe (my username),
I read about an event on at the BFI involving 1970's films and there was something about Clint Eastwood and it made me think of you; I cannot remember exactly what it was (an exhibition maybe) but I will try and find the link. I mean it will be at the BFI in London :)
I am currantly trying to find some interesting classic film events in the UK this year'

As you can imagine, I was pleased with this. We spoke more on the forum. Another time, she pasted a link to you tube, for everyone to see, saying somethuing along the lines of "I know some of you probably have seen this, but here's a tribute to a hundred years of films" I replied with "what an awesome video!" to which she responded " I knew you would like it :)"

Does she really like me?

But in the past few weeks she has been quiet, but has spoken to me on the forum. But in the past week, she has been dreafully quiet. Have I said something wrong? I have always been polite to her, never been suggestive, etc.

I am too sacred to PM her, for fear she'll tell me to get lost, whichh will mess me up. I grew up with the Kinks, and to liek someone who looks nice, and has a great personality, and likenThe Kinks...means alot to me.

What shall I say in my posts? I know she's still reading them as you can see peoples usernames when they are viewing the thread.

Sorry if I rambled on...any advice wuill be greatly appreciated

Cheers

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As a forum junky myself, I tend to move from forum to forum, leaving ones that get boring behind. I expect this time next year I won't post on this forum at all anymore. If she is the same she might be phasing that forum you're on out.

The truth is that its hard to determine how someone feels through forum posts, let alone PMs, chatting, text, etc. Only once have I ever considered meeting someone I met online, and it actually turned out to be a decent 8 month relationship. If you're into her, you should consider sending her a private message asking to get to know you better (some forums send emails out when PMs are sent). You'll get an honest and straight answer fairly quickly if she is interested.

Forum banter is simply too hard to read to determine if someone likes someone or not.

I agree, just send her a PM and start talking to her more.
She knows that you live in the same country as her and if she's interested in you then she will reply back to your PM and then something good might happen later on.

Okay guys,

Thanks for your reply. But what do I PM her?? How shall I phrase it?

I find her interestin and a lovely person.

I don't want to sound sleazy, or over romantic, if you know whgat I mean, as we only know each otyer on there.

Cheers


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Splash you can ask people advice but don't ask people what to say...:(

It's gotta come from your heart.

My take is that she has been the one with the most forward attitude, the post about the 70's movie event was a subtle attempt to see if how you'd react to meet if she made the trip to the event...

Anyway that's just my take...you come across as lovely but very passive in all this affair.

Here is a draft, LLOL, of the mesage I want to send to her

Is it ok? I would like ideas also


She is into old films, and considers herself to be old fashioned


Hello Melinda,

I really, really hope you don't mind me sending you this message, but one of the other fans said I should do it, so I will be honest

I joined this forum last october, after a tragedy in my family, only to post one question, to which I got a lot of replies. I never did expect I would become a regular on this site.

I am sorry if this sounds strange, but when I made my first few posts, I found your replies witty and encouraging, and the pictures in your avatar and your screen name really stood out for me . And through reading your posts, and your taste in films,I find you to be a really interesting and delightful person, especially after I opened up the adore on the screen thread.

I think your choice in films is really refreshing, I watched Some Like It Hot, when you recommended it to me once, and the light ness of it really gave me a happy feeling inside. I never told you at the time, as I didn't want to seem extreme

When you pasted that film link for me it really made me happy, and I am sorry I never returned the favour by giving you some links like I said I would, but my phone can't copy and paste those, and I hardly use my laptop at the moment.

I like you a lot Melinda, and I know we have never met, etc, but as a forumer, I think your great

I really hope I didn't sound extreme here, and I really hope I haven't annoyed with this message

Michael

That is way way too much.

I would make sure not to say "I like you alot" on there, it comes across as desperate, and the "I hope I haven't annoyed you" comes across as insecure. I'd shorten it considerably to something like

"Hey, I feel like we've made a connection on the forum, and since we live so close together, why don't we try getting together for a coffee?"

here is my last draft, altered to what Cerby told me

Hello Melinda,

I really, really hope you don't mind me sending you this message, but one of the other fans said I should do it, so I will be honest

I joined this forum last october, after a tragedy in my family, only to post one question, to which I got a lot of replies. I never did expect I would become a regular on this site.

I have noticed you havent really answered my posts the last two weeks, and wondered if I have done anything wrong. If I have upset you in one of the threads, I am awfully sorry

I am sorry if this sounds strange, but when I made my first few posts, I found your replies witty and encouraging, and the pictures in your avatar and your screen name really stood out for me . And through reading your posts, and your taste in films,I find you to be a really interesting and delightful person, especially after I opened up the adore on the screen thread.

I think your choice in films is really refreshing, I watched Some Like It Hot, when you recommended it to me once, and the light ness of it really gave me a happy feeling inside. I never told you at the time, as I didn't want to seem extreme

When you pasted that GH link for me it really made me happy, and I am sorry I never returned the favour by giving you some links like I said I would, but my phone can't copy and paste those, and I hardly use my laptop at the moment.

Hey, I feel like we've made a connection on the forum, and since we live so close together, why don't we try getting together for a coffee?

Michael





I hope shes alright with me.

is this for real?

If I was you, I would try to get to know her by PMing her... so just a simple letter.
In your letter, I think it is way too much...you should make it more simple and short, and I wouldn't ask her out to coffee just yet since you might scare her off.

I think he's for real.

Listen, Splash, I have direct experience with this kind of situation. I'm a regular here, and I met a girl on THIS forum. We had a relationship for two years. She was from Former Yugoslavia, I am American, and she was 6 years older than me. I went to visit her three times during those two years, and we spent about 7 months total together IRL. The rest of that time was spent chatting on Skype - we were both in school during that time.

I don't remember how it all started and I don't know what made me so desperate to pursue her, but what I can tell you, is that it was a waste - apart from extrinsic experiences, it was all a waste of time, money, and effort. The first time we met, I should have realized and accepted that it wasn't going to work out. She was completely different than I thought she would be. We fought so much after we met in person, that I knew it wouldn't work out for over a year. I deceived myself. I kept trying anyway, because I didn't want to lose what I invested in already, and suddenly, I had already blown $8k on a girl who treated me like shit. I could write a little anecdote about the time she whipped a lotion bottle at my head because she embarrassed herself in front of her family by spilling a drop of Martini on a white table cloth, or perhaps the time where she started strangling me and beat me in my sleep because she logged onto my Facebook and found female friends on my account, or a thousand other miserable details of my repressed memories of her, but I'll spare you that, because I think I've made my point, and just give you the advice.

What did I learn from all that?... well, if you really want to meet someone, whether it's out of desperation, attraction, or love... even if you met this person on the internet, you will meet them, no matter what your friends, family, or internet peers say, even if the risks involve getting kicked out and living as a second-class citizen in a foreign country, for weeks, out of your suitcase in a shitty hostel. I wish I had the capacity to realize all this three years ago. They say hindsight is 20/20.

I hope you can learn from my mistakes, even if you do decide to give it a go. And by the way, your risks don't seem as great in this situation as mine were, but that doesn't change the outcome of regret. If you pursue this relationship, just know when enough is enough. Drop it at the first sign of trouble, no matter what the cost is. Life is too short for all the bullshit. I'll leave you with that to ponder.

please, please, please don't send that message to her. the first line makes me wince. you start off the whole message sounding really insecure. why are you asking her if it's ok for you to send her a PM? it makes you sound really desperate. you should consider this first message to her like an IM. when you're on aim or skype or gchat or whatever you talk to people on, do you write out a long message in a letter format like that? i think not.

keep it simple and talk about the things you guys talk about on the forums. send her a PM discussing this event she mentioned in that post. send messages back and forth for a little while and then offer her your e-mail/screen name/etc. now it doesn't matter if she's phasing out of the forum, you'll have a form of contact not related to the forum that she probably checks more regularly. don't make your first initiation at PM'ing her so formal. keep it short, simple, and sweet and let it grow from there. you don't need to lay everything out on the table right off the get go. and i wouldn't mention meeting until you guys have established enough contact back and forth. just relax and go with the flow...don't get too engulfed in the whole thing too fast or you will definitely scare her off.

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I think he's for real.

Listen, Splash, I have direct experience with this kind of situation. I'm a regular here, and I met a girl on THIS forum. We had a relationship for two years. She was from Former Yugoslavia, I am American, and she was 6 years older than me. I went to visit her three times during those two years, and we spent about 7 months total together IRL. The rest of that time was spent chatting on Skype - we were both in school during that time.

I don't remember how it all started and I don't know what made me so desperate to pursue her, but what I can tell you, is that it was a waste - apart from extrinsic experiences, it was all a waste of time, money, and effort. The first time we met, I should have realized and accepted that it wasn't going to work out. She was completely different than I thought she would be. We fought so much after we met in person, that I knew it wouldn't work out for over a year. I deceived myself. I kept trying anyway, because I didn't want to lose what I invested in already, and suddenly, I had already blown $8k on a girl who treated me like shit. I could write a little anecdote about the time she whipped a lotion bottle at my head because she embarrassed herself in front of her family by spilling a drop of Martini on a white table cloth, or perhaps the time where she started strangling me and beat me in my sleep because she logged onto my Facebook and found female friends on my account, or a thousand other miserable details of my repressed memories of her, but I'll spare you that, because I think I've made my point, and just give you the advice.

What did I learn from all that?... well, if you really want to meet someone, whether it's out of desperation, attraction, or love... even if you met this person on the internet, you will meet them, no matter what your friends, family, or internet peers say, even if the risks involve getting kicked out and living as a second-class citizen in a foreign country, for weeks, out of your suitcase in a shitty hostel. I wish I had the capacity to realize all this three years ago. They say hindsight is 20/20.

I hope you can learn from my mistakes, even if you do decide to give it a go. And by the way, your risks don't seem as great in this situation as mine were, but that doesn't change the outcome of regret. If you pursue this relationship, just know when enough is enough. Drop it at the first sign of trouble, no matter what the cost is. Life is too short for all the bullshit. I'll leave you with that to ponder.

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my kind of girl! go CC! I beat up my man when they need to be disciplined!

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my kind of girl! go CC! I beat up my man when they need to be disciplined!

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Sure, sometimes men deserve to be slapped, but I'll bet you a million dollars she will never have a satisfactory love life. She is a completely miserable and insatiable person. She was never happy with anything (I'm not exaggerating), and she wanted to drag everyone down to her level - I watched her do it to everyone. I felt especially sorry for her father... he had to put up with the mom, too!

Thanks very, very, much for your replies.

Because of her quietness, I just want to post, ON LY ONCE THOUGH, a few posts between me and this girl, and ask you guys if I had said anythung wrong or too much. People I have asked have told me I havent said anything wrong

I will only show posts between me and her once, as I wouldnt want to clog this thread up with boring convos.....

the first one is from her:

I just made a kind of typo or sentence error myself. I meant NOW we are at a point where men don't know whether they are coming or going. I, myself, like lots of old fashioned romanticism. Yet you get a lot of modern women who, if men hold a door open in the old fashioned manner, they moan. Yet if men didn't do that, women would STILL moan that they are not gentlemanly.
There's no mystery at all now as they just take their clothes off and they're considered sexy. Rita Hayworth took off a glove seventy years ago whilst dancing and singing and that was what got the men going - now THAT was what sexy should be! What's the point if there is nothing to imagine or fantasise about (if you are a man!!)?

I also think that the other thing these days is obsession with freedom of speech. We moan that it is lacking and yet here we are on the internet saying this and that everyday.
I mean, some of the things you read on the internet are horrific and the level of manners is appalling. Anyone can start a blog and write a review of something. Now you don't have to be a so-called critic or journalist to do that.

I then went on to say this:

Yes, the modern standards are making us lazy, the downloading of music, the texting (I will fone u l8ter 4 a chat) rather than (I will phone you later for a chat), the latter I always use. They are just two examples. And I agree, Vivien Leigh , just standing in a beautiful dress, or Judy Garland or someone dancing away for example, is a lot more appealing in a film than Penelope Cruz, Paris Hilton stripping the lot off and jumping on the guy in every other scene. Men have become less gentlemany I think, one of the reasons, because the way the modern film culture has influenced them, but I may be wrong about that. Yes old romantism is lovelier than todays idea of 'love' People have become less feeling, and more materialistic

I think seeing a film at the pictures, or going to a concert, or even going on holiday had more exciting feeling about it years ago, even up to the 80's maybe, as it wasnt as easily accessible as it is now. You can go onto You Tube and watch most of what you want, you can download a film, DVD's (I am not knocking these, but with out VHS or DVD imagine the excite,ent people had in the early days when going out for the day to the pictures), and also the downloading of music. My dad even says he would rather hold a book, than gather up information on the internet, lol, although I have argued with him that you can get a lot more information on the internet than in a book. But maybe he is right, lol.

She didn't reply to that, but sometimes she doesnt anyway, maybe she never had an answer

I then went on to say something about the internet and how it is sometimes a negative thing, she replied



I think it's a positive and negative thing, personally. I really like that I can come to an interests refuge (sorry I know it's a stupid term!) like this so that I can mix with others who enjoy similar interests, whereas at college or in work, I feel like no-one particularly enjoys the same things, be it musically or films. Don't you feel the same? Do you remember at the time you joined when you said that someone told you Oasis were better than the Kinks (something like that)? At least here you know there are others out there who enjoy them, and perhaps without the benefit of an online community, you'd never have known them. I also like that I can buy an old vintage tea dress or say, Clark Gable film on Amazon which alternatively would not have been available in HMV or shops.
Plus without videos on the internet, I'd never be able to watch clips of certain musicians or actors I now love and admire.
Then there are the negatives such as lack of communication in society, nobody writes the old fashioned letters any more or buys newspapers; or just that the little things are disappearing.
I bet handwriting is deteriorating in schools as a result of computers as well!


Okay this is the l=only time I will show some posts, but I just want opinions if that looked normal

cheers

:)

lol, good luck with that

*bangs head against wall*

Try to get to know her more. Do not act as if you know she likes you coz maybe you'll get humiliated in the end.

Since you started talking to her directly, it'll be that much easier for you from now on.

Maybe ask her about herself ? Talking about common interests is nice but it seems so generic in the two/three posts that you shared, you need to get more personal with her if you want to know her better..

Hell, I don't know, I'm not the best guy to ask for advices about girls or relationships, just saying what's on my mind :P That's my disclaimer lol

This thread makes me want to jump out my window.

Okay. Serious advice.

Close your eyes. Okay, just peek enough so you can read this. .... Closed? Great.

Now reach down and feel between your legs. Anything there? No? No balls? Keep looking.. ... find 'em? A pair of 'em? Good. NOW STOP BEING A PUSSY AND PM HER LIKE YOU ****ING ROCK AND SHE KNOWS IT. ****! It's called confidence. And it's the INTERNET. You can fake it, buddy. Don't let her see how snivveling you are until you're in person.. by then she'll hopefully be invested and put on blinders.

The actual PM you should send her...

"Hey! You know, I really enjoy reading your posts.. I'm glad someone else has the same eclectic tastes as me! Care to meet up for a coffee to chat about Clark Gable?"

That's it. Two sentences, three max. Compliment (not obviously, sound authentic,) and ask nonchalantly. Win. If you write her a multi-paragraph thing she'll think you're a stalker.

You never, EVER go more than three sentences asking a girl out. Real life, internet, whatever. NEVER. Why? Because you give them more to nitpick on.. whereas a short thing like that makes her wonder. I guarantee you she would speak more time reading what I wrote than your long, drawn out bullshit. Mine is shorter but she'll read it over and over trying to figure it out. And that is MONEY, because when she CAN'T figure it out she'll automatically say yes.. as no woman enjoys not KNOWING (or THINKING they know.)

Thank you everyone again for your reply.

Grated wasabi your idea is great.

But as she has been quiet for a week with me, shall I add somehing about that in there? Asking If maybe I have said someing wrong?


Cheers

no. don't ask her if you did something wrong. do not mention or even hint at anything negative. like grated wasabi said, it will only put her in a negative mind set. and it makes you sound insecure. insecurity is not attractive to anyone.

i agree with grated wasabi that you have to exude a bit more confidence. convince her that you are someone worth getting to know. but i wouldn't go so far as to say that typing multiple paragraphs will make her think you're a stalker. some people are more talkative than others. and you met her in a forum setting...where people come to express their opinions. i think the type of replies that were going back and forth were normal for a forum discussion. i definitely get the feeling that she has paid attention to you. she remembered a post between you and another forum member when you first joined? she has definitely paid attention. the issue just might be that she has a busy lifestyle and doesn't get onto the forum very regularly. i guess my next question would be, has she mentioned anything in this other forum regarding her relationship status? do you even know if she is single? maybe she is involved and is trying to keep your conversations on topic.

i'd also point out that the first reply that you sent to her just sounded like a continuation of what she had said. you didn't really ask her any questions, and there wasn't really anything new to delve into discussion about (might have been why she didn't reply back so quickly). but when she replied back to you that second time, she asked you a question and it sounded like she wanted to keep the conversation open-ended, which is a good sign. i'd say continue down the same path you are going, but just make sure to ask her slightly more personal questions so that you aren't only talking about forum things. make sure that you keep your replies open-ended and ask a bunch of questions. if she doesn't respond to those type of replies, then you will know that she just might not be that interested.

i wouldn't ask her to meet up just yet. that might be a little TOO confident. it doesn't sound like you guys have really connected on a personal level yet...you've just been talking about forum related topics. once things start to get a bit more personal...then i'd jump in there and suggest meeting up. maybe to grab some coffee or even go to some kind of film event that you both might enjoy.

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i wouldn't ask her to meet up just yet. that might be a little TOO confident. it doesn't sound like you guys have really connected on a personal level yet...you've just been talking about forum related topics. once things start to get a bit more personal...then i'd jump in there and suggest meeting up. maybe to grab some coffee or even go to some kind of film event that you both might enjoy.

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Maybe, but it's kind of surprising how willing women are to meet guys from the internet that they really have no clue about. I have been trying this online dating thing and it's SHOCKING how many dates I've been on. Not just from dating sites, either! The same "strategy" works on forums. I've also figured out what works best is to initiate with, at most, 1 or 2 emails back and forth and then go for a meeting. I'd assume there casually flirty posts back and forth would suffice.

Right now he's mysterious and potentially a confident, cool dude. That mystery goes a long way. As long as it's meeting up in public for coffee, I wouldn't be surprised at all if she went for it. Besides, if she isn't going to go for it now.. are a few more emails really going to change her mind? Better that he stop fretting and just get it out there for a yes or a no then keep trying only to get a no later. Just my 2 cents.

Splash, one of the most important things to remember when dealing with women is to ALWAYS treat periods when they don't call/text/email back as fast as you like as though they're super busy but dig the hell out of what you're selling. I don't play the "Oh, yeah, I've been super busy, too.." BS unless I have.. but just try to keep thinking that they are incredibly busy and that's why you haven't heard back YET.

you might be right grated wasabi. it sounds like you have a bit more experience than i do in regards to meeting someone online. i can only speak as a girl and what she might be thinking. i got an overall vibe of interest from her to continue the conversation. since they haven't really gotten to know that much of each other yet, i personally think it might be a bit too abrupt to ask to meet up. that's just me though. sounds like you had some pretty good experience being upfront about it, so it might work for the OP. i can only speak for myself. if that was the kind of conversation that had gone back and forth between me and a guy, for him to just suddenly ask to meet up would feel a bit strange to me. dating sites are obviously different, because people are on those sites with strict intentions to meet someone to possibly end up with. if you have common interests with another person, and have had a few exchanges back and forth, a meet up makes sense. a forum is just a little different, and their conversation has obviously been pretty true to the type of forum they are on. i would want to know just a tad bit more about a guy before agreeing to meet up with him...but maybe i'm too cautious.

Heey guys, cheers for response.




I would love to get a bit more personal with her, but do not know where to start

@ RedHrshyKss, who I don't think has read this, but here is a re post of what she said to me once, out the blue.
I mean, I hadn't been on for about a few days, and the last time we spoke before this was in another thread about another sub ject. The thread is called What are you thinking about right now? and here is what she put:

@NightsBeforeMe (my username)
I read about an event on at the BFI involving 70's films and there was something about Clint Eastwood and it made me think of you; I cannot remember exactly what it was (an exhibition maybe) but I will try and find the link. I mean it will be at the BFI in London :)
I am currantly trying to find some interesting classic film events in the UK this year'

That was really nice of her

Then, I have never posted this here, but here is a few short posts, the first is from her. Any smilies in copied are from the original posts from the forum, as I have just copied and pasted onto here

Melinda: I'm sure that a lot of you have watched this but here's a TCM tribute to the past 100 years of film that's really quite special and moving!

"She left a you tube link"

Me:That is an awesome video!

Some great moments there, especially from one of my favourite actors, Robert De Niro, also Marlon Brando

Melinda: QUOTE (Night'sBeforeMe @ May 05, 2011 09:06 pm)
"That is an awesome video!

Some great moments there, especially from one of my favourite actors, Robert De Niro, also Marlon Brando"


I knew you'd like it :)

It crosses much of Hollywood's greatest moments. I think there were one or two great moments missing but it's great nonetheless!


Okay, this is just an example. Obviously I am trying no0t to get carried away with anything

Cheers

she obviously enjoys talking with you on this forum. and i have a feeling her suggesting the event was her way in sort of sharing something with you...something that you guys could potentially use as a means to meet. why not mention the event she references in your next message exchange? ask her if she's thinking about going to it. talk about it and then when you feel the time is right, suggest possibly meeting there. that would potentially open up the conversation into more personal topics...where she's from, what she does, etc.

You are reading WAY WAY too much into her posts, finding connections where there may be none.

All this stress you've caused yourself, when you just need to send a PM that is loaded with confidence. No apologies, just do it!

You'll know pretty quick if she is interested or not.

Cheers,

I remember about month ago, when I said randomly that I was thinking about a Kinks convention and she replied that she would love to go to one.

Then she posted another reply straight after and asked if I am going or if I had attended in the past. She finished it by sahing that it would be lovely to meet more fans. That COULD be hint, might not be


I am on the brink of sending her a message

sounds like a hint to me. hurry up and send her a message already. she's definitely interested...

sorry guys,

just a quick question......

What did she mean by this??

I ask, as I have only spoke topic related issues in the threads, and obviously we have never had a disagreemant, or fallout, and the last time we properly discussed a topic, she was cool with me, and always had been before. Last night, someone opened a thread about words.... (stupid thread) and the guy said this


Dave : I find myself using words--YES, both in my written and oral communication. That is so completely predictable, mundane and BORING. Everyone has been using words forever. Words can be so uncool.

I replied: I quite agree with you Dave

then Melinda said to him.....Very few people use the word 'yes' any more. Always 'yeah'. Guilty as charged - poor diction!

Then she quoted me of when I said "I quite a agree with you Dave"
and replied to me "
"One must agree with one's statement here. Splendid, darling." she put a grinning smily next to it, which I cant past here

I want opinions, as its bizarre, I have never insulted anyyone on there, last of all her

Or am I imagining things???????

Sorry

She was being playful.

Are you ever going to contact her in private?

Thanks Merry H
When you say playful, what do you mean exactly? :)


As I said before, I really am on the verge of PMing her, but am a little afraid to, as she has been quite quiet this last two weeks

Cheers


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Thanks Merry H
When you say playful, what do you mean exactly? :)

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I'll tell you that after you PM her. Just say hi.

Go on.