I always hear people say love is unconditional...Is this true? Do you people believe that or no?
I found that the answer to this question is usually odd from people specially when I compare it to their definition of love.
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I always hear people say love is unconditional...Is this true? Do you people believe that or no?
I found that the answer to this question is usually odd from people specially when I compare it to their definition of love.
No. I think it is conditional. If you treat me like crap, I will not love you unless I am an idiot. Minor exception is love for a child who is tolerated despite bad behavior due to their youth. However, once they are grown, I think it becomes conditional.
From your parents & Pets I believe love is unconditional. When it comes to a bf/gf I'm a bit hesitant. You fall in love with that person and theres always a possibility that you/they could fall out of love.
i think it is unconditional.. however, if someone mistreat you, you'll try to hold it back.. but the emotion itself will exist despite what the person has done..
Thats what I think but most people will have to argue against it because the emotion that stays no matter what is known to be called infatuation.Quote:
Originally Posted by artyemi
welll, in some situation it's just infatuation.. what people would say is you're just infatuated with someone because you've never really been involved with the person, or because love is something that develops over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins
Sorry but love that developes over time has conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by artyemi
no... love, a noun.. has conditions...
but love as a verb does not..
for me anyways..
That makes VERY little sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by artyemi
I believe that when you love someone, if you really love them, you cant love that person only to an extent. I believe that true, real love...is unconditional.
I think that what artyemi is saying is that love in the emotional sense is conditional (agrees with my position, in that I will not love you if you treat me badly unless I am stupid), but love as a way of behaving (we discussed this before - the sense of behaving a certain way despite variable emotions - such as a parent loving a difficult child) is unconditional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins
So a boyfriend can NOT love a girlfriend unconditionally then?Quote:
Originally Posted by shh!
Who are you asking? Me or artyemi? Because I would reply this way:
Would you love a girlfriend who cheated on you with your best friend?
Would you love a girlfriend who stole from you?
Would you love a girlfriend who intentionally impregnated herself to trap you into marriage?
(you get the idea)
If you can say yes, then I would say that perhaps YOU can love unconditionally, but I cannot. I don't know what artyemi would say.
I say yes to those question because you dont have to LIKE someone to LOVE them. She can shoot me in the knee cap with a rifle and do all those things you told above but never the less my brain tells me to love them.Quote:
Originally Posted by shh!
I love my mother even though she was abusive... if that means anything.
Oh, boy! I hope whomever it is you end up with is worthy of your loyalty!Quote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins
I dont understand. I never said I would "be" with the person...just love them.Quote:
Originally Posted by shh!
No. There are conditions on everything.Quote:
Is love unconditional.
I think love for family is unconditional. I could never NOT love a member of my family, ANY one of them, no matter what they did. But for a partner.....that is different. It would take something absolutely unforgiveable though for me not to love them....like if they murdered someone in my family. I would instantly lose my love for someone who did that.
I only feel like that towards my brother, mother, and father. My uncle died not to long ago but you know how those go? pffft I coudnt care less. If someone murdered someone in my family I would hate them but I could still love them.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluesummer
Haha! Aren't you a slippery little fish? (You got me there!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Only-virgins
i think its conditional. I can not stop have feelings for someone...it's just there, all the time. It may fall a bit, when she makes me maD!! but its always there...Marko:)
How is it love if its conditional?
Lets say you have a GF and she treats you badly and you breakup. But you did love her. What feel you feel when you broke up?
Sad. Pain. Bad.
LOSS.
You still love her for some time until you get over her.
If love was conditional, what would the conditions be? good looks and money? brains?
So poor people cant have love? not-very-smart people cant have love? heck, ugly people cant have love?
Even some murderers have wifes visiting them for years... why? What does a convicted murder have going for him in terms that will fulfil conditions for his wifes love?
That would have to be some damn low condition/thresh-hold, his a human male... thats about it.
OK, so wouldnt that make other people who better fulfil the conditions better targets for love? Wouldnt you love ANYBODY and EVERYBODY who fills the bill? Until someone else comes along that fits it better?
No, I'm sorry but no. That's not true.
And while a lot of people feel and experince love that way, its not really love at all.
True Eugene.....
These two get confused alot; Love and Infatuation
I think, as most people seem to agree, that love between family members is usually unconditional.
Outside the family though, with a partner...I think that TRUE love is unconditional but very very few people will ever experience love in that way (with the exception of family). Most people will attach conditions...
To be honest I cant really make up my mind. Conditional love is probably better, I think. It's more of a compliment if somebody loves you that way rather than in an unconditional way.
I mean, if love develops over time, then the fact that your partner still loves you is for a REASON, because they WANT to spend their time with you, they admire you, respect you, etc etc. If they committed a serious crime, you'd think you didnt know them anymore, and it would probably fall apart. I mean, how do you stick by your partner in a murder trial, for example? But if your mum - well, ok, I cant speak for anyone else - so if my mum killed somebody I would hate her for what she had done - but I would still love her because she's my mum.
I think hold that love is unconditional towards family or towards others.
You do not choose when the feeling arises, or at what moment in time you want to love. It just happens. What you can choose to do is withhold those feelings, but those feelings don't stop.
When has hurt you, you mix in other feelings, like hurt, anger, pain, loss, mistrust but the underlying feeling of love is still there.
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Originally Posted by COAD
Yup and hes actually describing what most people consider infatuation sadly when it really is love.