Do you think love is worth it...?

My reply in another forum made me think of this.

I'm in a serious relationship with a girl who doesn't believe in pre-marital sex. I work and push to see more of her, and get closer to her, even with the knowledge that I will not get any sex from her, I still go for it. It's really made me feel better about myself, like I'm really going for something special.

So, I ask you guys. Would you go for a relationship even if you knew there would be no sex? "Is the juice worth the squeeze?"

(this question is probably more applicaple to my high school-aged peers)

I would just go in a relationship if i would know that me and the boy would start to explore the other person very well and to get really close doesnt matter if it takes time but never without sex thought

Is she a "Rules" girl? She take one of those oaths to remain a virgin?

I used to be of the opinion that if there wasn't any pre-marital sex, chances were that there wasn't going to be much POST-marital sex either. Nothing has ever happened to shake that firm conviction.

On the other hand, I have changed. Over the years, I am finding that sex is no longer the fiendish hormonal BEAST it once was. Getting a girl in-the-sack just doesn't appeal to me like it once did. I am much more interested in finding someone to share things with. Someone I want to get to know as a person. Sex is still nice, but INTIMACY is really where its at.

Do you intend on marrying her?

Cause if so, then sure, it's worth it.

Sex is a natural thing, so i've never understood why people don't believe in sex before marriage. Marriage has lost whatever ties to divinity it once had, so no reason there.


Why would God have created something so wonderful then waved his finger and said "don't do it or else! And when you're ready and finally do it, feel guilty about it!"

Marriage is a joke compared to what it once was.

On the other hand, you should always respect her wishes. ALWAYS.

Love is worth it. Love transcends mind and spirit as well as body. The body is a crude machination, meaning little without the things that make it up.

"Love is always patient and kind, it is never jealous. Love is never boastful or conceited...."

I would. She can hold out on me with sex all she wants to death as long as she did the same to everyone else meaning she is a virgin. If she isnt then to late for her..she puts out to me as well or she can get the fawk out.

If you knew what you were getting into before the relationship (ie. no pre-marital sex) and you love her, you will wait. It's as simple as that.

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Originally Posted by Ulf

Why would God have created something so wonderful then waved his finger and said "don't do it or else! And when you're ready and finally do it, feel guilty about it!"

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Well if you've ever heard the story of Adam and Eve...

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Originally Posted by Nurseman

but INTIMACY is really where its at.

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Intimacy = sex.

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Originally Posted by Ulf
Sex is a natural thing, so i've never understood why people don't believe in sex before marriage.

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Amen. That's how I've always felt.

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Originally Posted by NeoSeminole
If you knew what you were getting into before the relationship (ie. no pre-marital sex) and you love her, you will wait. It's as simple as that.

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I actually didn't know this getting into the relationship. When I learned about it, I was a little disappointed, but as time went by, I became okay with it, and now I'm glad to wait.


I didn't really intend for you guys to give me advice, I just wanted your opinions on pre-marital sex, and the dating of non-believers. =P

If you ever want to understand why you don't have sex before marriage read the bible that is where you will find it and understand cause I go to church and I was suppose to take the oath at church to not have sex before I was married but I decided to skip out on it.

Tried the Bible, then learned about the Council of Nicea and became a historian.

Shot that down.

Oh, if you don't know what the Council of Nicea was and are a healthy, church-going person, I advise NEVER looking it up. I've made the unfortunate mistake of ruining the role of the church for a few of my friends by mentioning it.

For those of you who don't care if the basis for your doctrine is suddenly called into question, try looking it up. Interesting stuff.

A great many forms of intimacy other than sex are possible between two people. So, yes. If it suits the two of you, wait.

Nup... Not worth it. Sex is part of a relationship. I'm not religious, and wouldnt be with someone who belived in celebacy. Why are you?

Mick

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Originally Posted by Nurseman

On the other hand, I have changed. Over the years, I am finding that sex is no longer the fiendish hormonal BEAST it once was. Getting a girl in-the-sack just doesn't appeal to me like it once did. I am much more interested in finding someone to share things with. Someone I want to get to know as a person. Sex is still nice, but INTIMACY is really where its at.

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I dont agree. If you cant have both, why be in that relationship.

Its nice for you to feel that way, I'm not knocking your decisions, but for me... No way would I accept that.

Mick

Yeah dude, naturally sex becomes less important as people grow older, but that doesn't make it a vital part of a growing relationship.

Babies aren't born the the knowledge to walk.

These things have to go through stages.

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Originally Posted by Only-virgins

Intimacy = sex.

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Oh, how incredibly wrong you are.

Coffee at Starbucks can be intimate.
A smile or wink from across a crowded room can be intimate.
A ride in the country can be intimate.
Holding hands while walking in a park, or on a beach (esp @ night) can be intimate.
Kissing while watching a love story on a DVD can be intimate.


You missed my whole point, dude.

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Originally Posted by Nurseman

Oh, how incredibly wrong you are.

Coffee at Starbucks can be intimate.
A smile or wink from across a crowded room can be intimate.
A ride in the country can be intimate.
Holding hands while walking in a park, or on a beach (esp @ night) can be intimate.
Kissing while watching a love story on a DVD can be intimate.


You missed my whole point, dude.

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Intimacy is a connection...a higher level of communicating, often
with out even speaking. And I agree totally, intimacy turns plain
old sex into lovemaking which is so much more enjoyable.

And here's a thought for those who disagree...you can have sex with
someone, or you can pleasure yourself, and have the same ho-hum result.
But add intimacy and it becomes an experience to remember.
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As far as waiting goes... respect her for what she has chosen to do. It is
a value of hers, the point being she holds values. And when she does marry
someone she will value the relationship as well.

And just because she is waiting does not mean she is a cold fish. You can usually tell...she will get just as turned on (maybe even more) just like any other woman would.

I once knew a girl like this, and let me tell you how hard it was for her to control herself. We would be "intimate" with each other, and I could tell by her heavy breathing and rocking and rolling that she was very turned on.

Looking back now I wish I waited for her instead of giving up and going for the easier target....she was so worth it.

And thats the other thing about intimacy. You remember those experiences
for life. Good stuff :)

Ok....I'm done ranting.

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Intimacy = sex.

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I beg to differ. ****ing and Making Love are two different things. Making love is where you... damn it's beyond words. Basically love making is emotional while ****ing is either fun or just... physical stimulation.

Sure I could see myself ****ing my love just to pass time, but love making is where the unforgettable experience is at... or should be at

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Originally Posted by Nurseman

Oh, how incredibly wrong you are.

Coffee at Starbucks can be intimate.
A smile or wink from across a crowded room can be intimate.
A ride in the country can be intimate.
Holding hands while walking in a park, or on a beach (esp @ night) can be intimate.
Kissing while watching a love story on a DVD can be intimate.


You missed my whole point, dude.

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Damn, I knew that starbucks makes good coffee but damn..not that good. Listen..here is the thing about something called "relativity". To me a wink is a wink..sex is sex..love is love(chemical) and kissing..is fun..even funner when it leads to sex..which is love making..which is sex..which is love making because all that same. Though people fool themselve to believe other wise because they would like to believe that they have a stronger sex bond then that jock or jocky girl that ****ed their loved one in high school..they are wrong. To make sense you must speak logically..and you will fail to explain logically the difference between "lovemaking" and "sex"...many have tried and failed.

When you are intimate with someone it means you are having sex with them.

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Originally Posted by XFactorNo9

I beg to differ. ****ing and Making Love are two different things.

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I dis-agree with you...Don't beg..just have your opinion. I dont care. refer to above for answer though.

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Originally Posted by Only-virgins

To make sense you must speak logically..

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Which is something you totally did not accomplish. Your logic looked like just a bunch of periods and the words love and sex all garbled together. Mind explaining in english?

she could change

A guy was interested in me that didn't want sex until we were married. He was a virgin. Seeing as I already had sex at the time....I really didn't want to wait until marriage. I prefer to test drive the car before I buy it. I mean what if we just weren't sexually compatiable...? I hear that does happen. Plus since I have already had sex....I would want to know before taking a HUGE step like marriage....

I'm sure there is a girl out there that has his morals.....

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Originally Posted by llamapants

Which is something you totally did not accomplish. Your logic looked like just a bunch of periods and the words love and sex all garbled together. Mind explaining in english?

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You did not understand what I said? Logic escapes you.

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Originally Posted by Ellynn

I prefer to test drive the car before I buy it.

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Interesting way to put it. I would prefer to just test drive cars for ever for free. You get a new one every day lets say and it doesn't break down eventually and get old and ...erhm...ugly. Boredem?, I get bored of my car after about 2 years and want a new and better one.

Yes.......but actual cars are different. LOL. What I meant to say is that I wanna know how its gonna be entirely before I commit to marriage. I mean why not right? I mean having had sex already theres not much to lose anymore....

I see nothing wrong with pre-marital sex.

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Originally Posted by Ellynn

Yes.......but actual cars are different. LOL. What I meant to say is that I wanna know how its gonna be entirely before I commit to marriage. I mean why not right? I mean having had sex already theres not much to lose anymore....

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I know I know. I was just giving you a hard time lol...jeez..some people