Just curious... are you for dead sentence or not

[Junsui]

Maybe we should have an inmate exchange program. Send our bad prisoners to prisons in countries like Burma, Columbia and North Korea. Send out post cards with pictures to all the local hoods who miss their favourite criminals

lol Sounds like a plan.

[Tone]

Yeah but your not a harden criminal either Tone!

Are you suggesting that 'harden criminals' are unaffected knowing they have to spend the rest of their life in prison, doing the same exact thing day in and day out, surrounded by MEN for the rest of their existance, and there is no chance for them to get out?

[Junsui]

Well it depends. Are we talking about serial killers? Cause I don't think someone who murders like 48 people is really worried about spending the rest of their life in prison.

[PhaZo]

i havent read nething here exept for the first post lol, but an Australian was executed in Indonesia a few weeks ago and i was absolutly disgusted and didnt feel our government did enough to get him off, he was 25 and wasnt even aloud to give his mother a hug...

[Tone]

Well it depends. Are we talking about serial killers? Cause I don't think someone who murders like 48 people is really worried about spending the rest of their life in prison.

Of course there are always your anomaly's.

I meant the common/average prisoner serving life.

[Junsui]

What do you get life for? What do you have to do in order to get life in prison with no chance of parole?

[vashti]

It's not working well because the "Ideal" situation, is that if they commit a crime they are punished by jail for however long..if they are set free the expectation is that they will not commit another crime because of being "punished" by emprisonment before. That rarely happens. If they are sentenced to life (which I imagine is for a pretty hanious crime) that is a punishment but most of those "types" of criminals still feel nothing for doing their crimes and don't care they are in prison. Yes they'd rather be in the "real world" but to them it's just another place. So how are the ones that don't care actually punished? Just IMO.

So you are saying that you favor rehabilitation? Because you would be correct in saying that rehabilitation is not generally part of the prison experience, which explains in part why you see so many repeat offenders. Personally, I think rehabilitation for lesser criminals on their first offense would be a good idea, but I don't think it will solve societal crime problems. Those who truly have no remorse for their crimes are medically called sociopaths, and they cannot be rehabilitated. Why should I care if they regret their crimes so long as they are locked away forever?

I think you should rethink your assertion that criminals don't care about being in prison (I will assume for the moment you are talking about repeat offenders). That is like saying that a woman who is battered doesn't mind being beaten. Of course they mind; they just don't know another way to live.

I don't think that criminals actually think about the consequences of their actions. They live in the moment, just as most teenagers do. They lack impulse control.

[Junsui]

Of course there are always your anomaly's.

I meant the common/average prisoner serving life.

lol Sorry I just saw a commercial last night for a show about the Green River Killer and I remembered that number this morning

[Tone]

What do you get life for? What do you have to do in order to get life in prison with no chance of parole?

You think everyone serving life with no chance of parole is a serial killer with a ****ed up mind, psychopath, brutally murdered 20+ people?

And do you also think everyone serving life is guilty of their charges?

[Junsui]

Umm Tone, I was asking what do you have to do to get that.

[Junsui]

And do you also think everyone serving life is guilty of their charges?

And no, I don't. I watched The Life of David Gale last night. Interesting movie.

[Tone]

OH YEAH - that's the movie - was thinkin about it a couple weeks ago and no one could remember what the name was...

I really liked that movie - was very interesting.

[Rosebud]

I don't think that criminals actually think about the consequences of their actions. They live in the moment, just as most teenagers do. They lack impulse control.

Yes Tone I was referring to serial killers who kill for the thrill..the only life they know! So no I don't think they care they are in prison since they do the same exact things in there. How many killers want recognition for their actions, when they are caught everyone wants to talk about them and make them a biography because of how they did what they did and how they think, they are trying to accomplish something and are succeeding!

And vashti yes I agree in rehabilition for lesser/first offenses (depending on severity). I agree with you I don't think it would help societal problems. And yes I'm talking about the sociopaths which I have been all along, and that they are not truly being punished by ebing in prison for life since that's the type of life they live anyways. If you look at their actual life it's not much differnet from prison excpet for the most part they can't prey on innocent people.

And that is exactly my point..they don't know another way to live so it doesn't bother them that are put in prison. Because of what they have known or how they have lived. I'm saying they adjust themselves to the prison life (which doesn't take much) and do the same things in there... Yes they all want to be free and don't really want to be in prison...But the prisons are the way they are because the criminals make it that way, it's how they live!

I hope this makes sense, as I'm not saying one would chose prison over being free, I'm saying they make prisons the way they are. They are the cause of what happens in prisons....

[Mish]

Tone, stop picking on Junsui, she's a pretty princess!!

Rosie stop picking on Tanya, Tanya stop picking on Rosie. Rosie stop picking on Tone, Tone stop picking on Rosie...



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PhaZo, you're thinking about Singapore not Indonesia. It's nice to know you feel sorry for drug dealers silly enough to traffic drugs in a country where drug dealing is a capitol punishment offence...

[Chlorine]

Frenchmaid---I didn't see the movie "Monster".
I think it's quite alright to execute people. If the country's laws state execution for serious crimes like murder, rape, drug trafficking etc etc, than honour the law. If one chooses to disobey, than move country or be prepared to get executed. It's simple.