guys do a lot of work

my views are different from yours. probably because i am a woman and you are probably a man.

but honestly i was just ****ing around. i like guys a lot of them are pretty cool.

Don't get me started. I'm a little tipsy and lookin' for a fight!

GRRRRRRRRRRR :tough:

every time a guy says this shit to me i think he's just trying to get me mad. i'm only saddened when i think they're serious.

Ther are two tricks to love-making, joe45: First, you have to learn how to fall into a woman's arms without also falling into her hands. After that, you have to learn how and where to touch her just a split second BEFORE she realizes that's EXACTLY how and where she WANTED to be touched. That's, really, the only "work" in the matter a guy should have to do. After that, it's all ease and flow.

word to your mother.

Who do you I think I learned it from? Common. Look at my location.

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Originally Posted by misombra

men that think this way are a big turn off. maybe it just feels like you're working too hard because doing the wrong thing. first thing to do is change your thinking. it's not that hard to win us over. it's all about doing THE RIGHT THING... you know?

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I agree...

If you think you are "working" then why bother, relationships should just happen naturally. If you dont like what you have to do to keep them, maybe that person isn't "the one".

You need to 'do things' to make a relations great. But it shouldn't feel like work.

Mick

bluesummer writes:

"Wow, you obviously haven't been reading too many posts from guys on loveforum.

I could refute everything you just said with a myriad of threads and posts on here."

Should I read their posts? Go ahead, refute me. I could care less. Most of the people who post here represent a small percentage of the population. I'm sure there are guys out there who cause drama, cry over stupid shit, or try to manipulate people. However, for every guy there are many more girls who do all of those. I stand by my original comment.

"Oh, and your argument about equality is bullshit. I don't understand why women should have to 'fight for' or 'want' equality....everyone is human and we all deserve equal treatment in all areas regardless of sex, race, color, whatever. Don't use that as a basis for an argument, it's so..........dated. It also makes you sound just a wee bit chauvinist."

I don't know where you were going with that. In fact, you supported my argument. My point is that girls pick and choose when they want to pull the equality card. Why can't girls approach guys and ask them out? Afterall, everyone deserves equal treatment in all areas. You said it yourself. By the way, I suggest you look up the definition of chauvinist.

I guess down the line of our past of humankind, the man has always done the hard work first and it's stuck in our mindsets.

I do wish girls would take the initiative more often though because it'd make things a bit more fair.

In the end, whatever works works.

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Why can't girls approach guys and ask them out? Afterall, everyone deserves equal treatment in all areas. You said it yourself. By the way, I suggest you look up the definition of chauvinist.

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Girls ask guys out all the time, so I really don't understand what all the bitching is about. What I hate is whiny ass men who complain about having to ask chicks out. If you don't have the balls to do it, and no girls are interested enough in you to ask you out, then be single. What the hell should the rest of the normally functioning world care.

P.S. I don't use words I can't define. And I said it made you SOUND a BIT chauvinistic. I didn't call you a chauvinist, so chill.

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i don;t now why as a guy we have to do everything, take the inititave to talk to the girl, wonder if she is intrested, and if she is ask her out and we might even get rejection and face embarassment. i mean as a guy i have to do a lot of work.

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I agree. Im to laid back thats why I will never have a chick. I just dont give a **** enough to go and get one. Come to me my ladies...no?....well **** you my hand is good enough.

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Originally Posted by mini696

We do all the work to get the girl, so that we can at least try to make up for the 9 months of pain and suffering we put the girls through each time they have your kids.

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I got a vasectomy and can not have kids...can I now skip all the effort and work?

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What I hate is whiny ass men who complain about having to ask chicks out. If you don't have the balls to do it, and no girls are interested enough in you to ask you out, then be single.

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I would just like to say that : I do not whine, I do not care to ask them out, they do not ask me out...I am single :) . Whats worse then someone who whines about this is someone who whines about someone who whines about this.

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normally functioning world

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ROFL! ...oh shit..my stomach hurts from laughing.

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ROFL! ...oh shit..my stomach hurts from laughing.

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Laughing at what exactly?

I know you don't get it, so I won't waste my time to explain. AGAIN.

bluesummer, girls hardly ask guys out. I think most guys will agree with me. If you don't believe me, then answer this question: if every guy suddenly stopped asking girls out, do you think the number of couples would stay the same? Hell no. I dont know how this is equal.

The reason for "bitching," as you call it, is simple. We always have to approach girls and ask them out. It would be nice if girls would return the favor. Afterall, we hold doors open for them, we pay for them, and we wait ages for them to get ready. What's their excuse? "You should just deal with it b/c you are guys." What I hate is girls who want equality when it suits them.

chauvinist (n): a person with a prejudiced belief in the superiority of one's own gender, group, or kind.

Care to explain to me how I remotely demonstrate this?