Does psychotherapy encourage self-absorption?

[Yggdrasil]

writing the cheques to.

Oh.. that explains... US right?

[IndiReloaded]

Nope not American. Sorry Ygg, not meant literally. All our costs in that regard are covered by the uni.

[Yggdrasil]

Nope not American. Sorry Ygg, not meant literally. All our costs in that regard are covered by the uni.

Our healthcare system is free (well, sorta).. it's paid by taxes.

[LadieNisha4u2nv]

I notice that certain posters routinely encourage therapy. I'm not talking about therapy for people with genuine mental illnesses, but for relatively healthy people.

I noticed this on here just the other day. I made a thread about this girl who recently died 6 hours after her graduation and after thinking it through with had it been me and how this affects the driver and her family and how ****ed up it was it settled in and I cried.

So here comes this retard suggesting counseling(might I add the spelling was horrible)just because I cried and didnt know the girl.

It couldn't be that serious.

[misombra]

my parents put me in counseling as a teenager. it was so stupid. the lady would sit there and listen to me talk about how depressed i was that my father was only around to offer counseling and my mother was a cold, mean person with no soul. she would write down her notes and send me home. it had absolutely no benefit at all, except to keep me out of my parents hair for an hour a week.

[IndiReloaded]

Our healthcare system is free (well, sorta).. it's paid by taxes.

UK then? Not Canadian, b/c here we still have to pay for those types of services, unless you have a good extended plan.

Anyway, a lot of posters here are american, so you might want to keep the financial aspect in mind when suggesting counselling, especially to young people.

[Yggdrasil]

my parents put me in counseling as a teenager. it was so stupid. the lady would sit there and listen to me talk about how depressed i was that my father was only around to offer counseling and my mother was a cold, mean person with no soul. she would write down her notes and send me home. it had absolutely no benefit at all, except to keep me out of my parents hair for an hour a week.

Sounds like it wasn't you who needed the counseling.

[Yggdrasil]

What if I want to be called sweetheart, girlfriend?

Get the lube ready, bend over and drop 'em cupcake. I'll be right behind you.

[IndiReloaded]

Hey! I thought Gott was *my* estalker.

Now I find out he's just your average e-ho.

[Junket]

my mate's girlfriend dragged him off to a relationship counseller. They are both 26, they both come from very, very wealthy families, they have no kids, no responsibilities, not particularly stressful jobs, absolutely no financial problems.

What they talk about in counselling I do not know. Time to call it a day, I reckon.

I remember discussing something like this a long time ago with Vash about her daughter or something.

Privileged folk, people that don't have real problems, genuine drama in their lives, create it.

Think about it.

Humans weren't built to always be happy. We need emotions like anger and sadness to feel alive. That's why we like scary movies and tearjerkers. It's also why we enjoy roller coasters. The mind always needs to be occupied on something. Think, even while your sleeping your brain is still active, it can't, not be active in a healthy human being.

That's why we have all these kids today that have no good excuse to be unhappy, yet they are. Because everything else is great. Because they have no legitimate reason to be upset about anything, so their need for drama manifests itself in these silly "disorders", because that's the best they can come up with.

[Rollerderby]

Ok, so I'd like to add some questions to the forum please?

What do you consider qualified disorders to go to a counselor over?

Do you only recognize western psychiatrists as part of this ideology?


I remember you saying in a different post, Vash, about how Bi-polar was the new trendy disorder to have, and adhd was the 90's disorder to have. Granted, I'll agree with you that much these days is over-diagnosed, and that because so many people see shrinks, the shrinks are able to find something wrong with everyone. It's like, which flavor are you? Are you repressing memories from your childhood? Do you like to self-mutilate? Are you overly narcissistic? Do you suffer from low self-esteem? There is no "normal" these days, everything that everyone is diagnosed with is considered a negative thing that can only be corrected by your friendly neighborhood legalized drug dealer.

This is so we are all so doped up, we don't recognize the real life shit that's going on around us. But that's just my theory.

I see nothing wrong, however, with seeking certain eastern medicine treatments. They focus less on the self-absorption of ego, and more on the healing of the spirit, mind and body.

People are egotistical by nature. But everyone does have their problems, I think it's just that many people grew up believing they knew how to achieve true happiness, and then were sorely disappointed and thus unable to cope.

[vashti]

everything that everyone is diagnosed with is considered a negative thing that can only be corrected by your friendly neighborhood legalized drug dealer.

Therapists can't prescribe medication.

I see nothing wrong, however, with seeking certain eastern medicine treatments. They focus less on the self-absorption of ego, and more on the healing of the spirit, mind and body.

Isn't that just a hippy-dippy way of saying ego, or self?

[IndiReloaded]

If I had to pick two phrases that describe life they would be these:

1. Shit happens.

2. This too shall pass.

#1 should be obvious. #2 is also, except to remember it applies to positive things as well as negative, so enjoy what you can while you can.

Remember this, and pretty much everything else falls into place. We don't need drugs then.

[Rollerderby]

Therapists can't prescribe medication.




Isn't that just a hippy-dippy way of saying ego, or self?

Yes, psychiatrists can.

No, ego is mind or personality, as is superego. It's a higher part of your mind. Spirit is different than ego. But let's stay on topic.

You didn't answer either of my two questions initially posed either.

[vashti]

Yes, psychiatrists can.

No, ego is mind or personality, as is superego. It's a higher part of your mind. Spirit is different than ego. But let's stay on topic.

You didn't answer either of my two questions initially posed either.

A psychiatrist has a different job than a therapist; a psychiatrist is actually a doctor, and a therapist is not. Psychiatrists treat people with genuine mental illness such as schizophrenia. A therapist cannot.

I disagree with your definitions; it seems to me that spirit, mind, personality, etc. are what makes up the self, and constant scrutiny and contemplation of any of these things is pretty much the definition of self-absorption.

I don't consider normal responses to crappy situations a reason to advise a therapist. If you want to know my opinion of specific eastern practices, maybe you should specify which ones.

Indi - I like your last post.