Was I Oblivious, or right?

[Aeradalia]

I see... I'm going to have to be the one who gets wet in ice cold water then..

Nah... you test the water too.

They send out hints, and you send out hints... then when there's enough chemistry... you take a chance and say you like them.

That's generally how the game's played.

[Asip4u]

You're in your early 20's right? At your age my buddy and I skipped classes and went to the beach, taking few girls with us. We gave these girls massages quite often but it was nothing more than friendship and this was understood. For most women stuff like that is no big deal really but guys make it into something more. I suggest you start being a bit more aggressive and start asking girls out. You be in control. Getting turned down isn't the worst thing in life.

[starbuck]

This is one part that bothers me the most. So many times women give these signals and after you make your move there's the.."Oh i'm sorry i didn't mean it like that, i was just being friendly." Sorry guys, but if you want a girl you'll have to make things happen. A lot of the guys have this thing where they make everything seem bigger then it really is. What you'll have to do is ask out many girls...because only then you'll become fearless. Guys who have no fear of rejection get the most girls.

100% agree with this. And there are girls out there who play that game, yes. They try to see if they can get the attention of as many guys as possible without really caring about the guy.

They ruin it for us girls who flirt because we are geniunely interested in the guy.

[the_robot]

Nah... you test the water too.

They send out hints, and you send out hints... then when there's enough chemistry... you take a chance and say you like them.

That's generally how the game's played.

Ok... I guess I'll have to learn how to send hints too...

You're in your early 20's right? At your age my buddy and I skipped classes and went to the beach, taking few girls with us. We gave these girls massages quite often but it was nothing more than friendship and this was understood. For most women stuff like that is no big deal really but guys make it into something more. I suggest you start being a bit more aggressive and start asking girls out. You be in control. Getting turned down isn't the worst thing in life.

Well, I thought it didn't mean anything... now I'm confused. I guess if I start hitting on girls things would be more obvious or something..

[vashti]

It will be obvious what is on your mind if when you are giving the girl a massage, you lean over and kiss her on the back of the neck.

(I love that. ^^)

If she reacts favorably, you are in. If not, tell her to quit asking guys she isn't interested in to rub her back - she can pay people she isn't interested in to do that.

[the_robot]

It will be obvious what is on your mind if when you are giving the girl a massage, you lean over and kiss her on the back of the neck.

Umm.. that might be too much for me >.>

[Jas_mine]

The stepping on your abs thing is deffo weird though - I have never done that to a guy I had the hots for. Hmmm, maybe that's where I'm going wrong though!

[the_robot]

The stepping on your abs thing is deffo weird though - I have never done that to a guy I had the hots for. Hmmm, maybe that's where I'm going wrong though!

hahaha unless you are small, doing that could have a bad effect... and it didn't work for her to get my attention at the time

[BubbleFreak]

If she reacts favorably, you are in. If not, tell her to quit asking guys she isn't interested in to rub her back - she can pay people she isn't interested in to do that.

the_robot, wouldn't it be so much easier if girls simply told you they liked you, and asked YOU out instead?! Hahaha! That's what I eventually had to do since the guys I have known simply don't pick up on hints very well (maybe because we were all still so young and clueless at the time).

[the_robot]

the_robot, wouldn't it be so much easier if girls simply told you they liked you, and asked YOU out instead?

Yeah it would... I may even have all my problems fixed if that had happened... Come and get me girls!! haha

[vashti]

I may even have all my problems fixed if that had happened...

No you wouldn't, darling. You would lack the courage of a man. You need to be more proactive, but the good news is that it gets easier with practice.

[the_robot]

No you wouldn't, darling. You would lack the courage of a man. You need to be more proactive, but the good news is that it gets easier with practice.

My problem is mostly starting a conversation... once they do it's easy to keep up, I'm not one of those who is scared of women...

[vashti]

My problem is mostly starting a conversation... once they do it's easy to keep up, I'm not one of those who is scared of women...

You are at an easy age to start a conversation. Just ask them if they go to University or are working, and it will progress from there.

[the_robot]

Just ask them if they go to University or are working, and it will progress from there.

That's so cliché it probably works, I'll use it if I see any interesting girl and can't come up with something better

[xxazurexx]

Letting them touch you counts too? I've had some female friends asking me for massages very often, even the first one I mentioned there... it seems I was good at it.

I guess I should start proactively flirting with girls and see if they do weird stuff too.

I think that if a woman lets you lay your hands on her, it's an indicator she likes you.

Only a man I liked, would lay his hands on me!! lols

And I wouldnt touch a man I wasnt attracted too either.