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[greenemerald]

GLYC, What I meant by approaching women is basically your approach. But you've answered my question already since I can see that you are speaking like Corey. Haha. I have watched some of his videos since last year on and off. The reason why I don’t agree with some was that certain scenarios he gave actually happened to me, but his reasoning behind the woman’s action and my reasoning behind mine were completely different.

I do not agree with the “you only use text to set up a date”. I disagree. Here is my reasoning (and this is just my personal preference)… If a date is scheduled on a Monday for a Friday date, I would like to hear from a man between Monday and Friday. If a man does not text me at all, I would think he is not as interested or perhaps he has others he may be talking to. It is reasonable for me to think that if he is that interested in me, he would like to send a quick “I hope your morning is off to a great start” or "Just thinking of you and thought I would say a quick hello" before Friday. I see no text in between Mon-Fri as a lukewarm behavior. And if a man constantly acts this way, I would feel inclined to moving on and finding one who wants to engage. And yes, there were some men who I was into that I ended up not getting together with again due to this lukewarm approach. Want another example? I believe in a man calling to confirm. It is thoughtful and chivalrous. A very gentleman thing to do. I find it very attractive.

But as I said, that’s the approach I respond to. I am kind of an old school when it comes to courtship. I don’t respond well to ambiguity. The ones where I have to wonder too much. It is taxing. And I have too much schoolwork to do to deal with that. Hahaha. If you are interested, show me. I value consistency. If you have to act slightly indifferent so I will be more intrigued and interested, understand that you are not the only man vying for my attention. So I may pass you up to give the really interested one the chance. Those are just examples of what I do and do not respond to. And if a man insists on doing things the Corey way on those things I had mentioned? Well, I guess he’d be missing out on one hell of a sweet catch!

You seemed motivated to progress and even moved 3 hours away for that. Good for you.

That was actually very sweet of you to plan such an awesome date with that woman. I cannot really tell you why people these days accept dates and ghost. I have never, in my entire life, accepted a date and not show up. My word is golden. If I say I would be there, there has to be some emergency for me to cancel. And even then, I would give a courtesy call. Otherwise, I will be there. Some people are just too unreliable. Perhaps that is the reason why I like dates to be confirmed to make sure my time is not wasted. In your case, that woman was not decisive at all. There was nothing you did wrong or could have done differently. Even if she did not ask you to call later to confirm, highly likely she would still disappear. And no, I don’t think it is dorky that you listened to that song one too many times. If it helped bring clarity or self-reflection, why not? After all, songs are meant to touch the listeners.

The enthusiastic theater professor comment. I DO NOT produce B+ effort. No further comment. (Note to self: zero compliments moving forward).

“The only bad part is how are her future lovers going to live up to her new expectations?”…you actually lost me on this one. Honestly, you lost me on the entire paragraph. Hahaha. I don’t get it. English is my third language, so maybe I’m missing something here?

The kind of relationship you are seeking is reasonable, ideal, and seems like what most would want. So, why is this so rare? I suppose I need to keep in mind that you are in your 20’s and I am in my 40’s. But people on this side of the age spectrum? That is not rare at all. So you can look forward to your 40’s. haha

California here. A short drive to the beach. I love the city as well as the country feel. Some days I like to enjoy the nightlife the city has to offer. Other days, a relaxing drive up in the mountains or a scenic route. Food wise, I don’t really have any favorites. As long as the place serves veggies and protein, I'm good. Sounds like the Twin Cities would be a good place to see.

[GLYC]

Thank you for that post. I think i have experienced something similar as you said.

I will agree with the texting thing to an extent, it's nice to send a little message that shows that you care, i think Corey says that as a lot of men talk women out of dating them through texts and phoneships. But its important not to become robotic. If women don't think you care, you're going to get rejected like you said, and they're going to find someone else. That’s what separates the player from Mr. Right. It’s pretty hard to recover from that, women will think you were just playing games or that you only suddenly care because they’re moving on. Some guys spiral out of control at that point because they realize they’re losing/lost her. And. When you mess things up early, you don’t have that complete strong emotional bond with her yet, I don't think you have as much of a chance.

I think i got burned pretty badly on that a few months ago. Maybe I took it too far, after a few weeks of only contacting her once a week. I guess I always figured if she really wanted to talk, she would just message me. Which I do think women should do, why hold back? You're also complicating things with that. Phones work both ways? I'm not a mind reader, I can't know if you’re upset or not content with things if you don't communicate. She basically told me everything you said, that she thought I wasn’t interested, that she thought i was blowing her off, and I got stood up.

Overall, It was unnecessary drama. I played it off to the best I could given the situation I was finding myself in, I called her (and her friends started calling her, interrupting our call, I’m thinking ..Great), asked what happened, and stood up for myself in an assertive but loving way and said if she had questions she could have asked me and that she could talk to me, she said she didn’t want to look desperate, but she was really apologetic with her 10 apologies or whatever, and sounded like she was ready to cry. I said that if she didn't want to see me, I would leave her alone, she said no. She randomly blurted out that she wasn't talking to other guys (I'm not sure if she thought I was talking to lots of girls or if she had found another guy. It was a weird thing to just randomly say, I asked nothing about that at all). She also thought since I didn't call to confirm that we weren't doing anything that day.

I didn't know what to say and felt like i was getting mixed signals, I said in an earlier text message that if she really wanted to make up for things she could meet me at one of the towns and buy me a beer since she left me waiting and i was literally out in the middle of nowhere, she rejected the idea with an excuse.

I kind of acted like a tool/made some mistakes in this part.
I admitted that a lot of guys do call to confirm, but that I didn’t. I tried using humor, got her laughing, I honestly figured if this was the last time we were going to speak, I was at least going to brighten things up and ease the tension. I just suggested maybe we could do something some other time, she said definitely, I asked when she was going to be free, she opened up her schedule. I said I just had to check my schedule and would call her sometime next week (as I just wasn't feeling like making definite plans immediately while I was being left alone at our meeting spot after an hour and a half drive, and was getting some second thoughts). Honestly, that was a bad move anyways. I should have just left it at "maybe some other time and walked". Afterall, would you leave someone you were interested in at your meeting spot alone? Hell no.

I tried calling her like 8 days later, but she never returned my call. I still don't really know what to think of the whole situation. I tried thinking for a solid month about what may have gone wrong with everything. Some of it might have had to do with what you said. You have to find that perfect mix, where she knows you want her, but that you will let her go if she wants that and despite that you still want her, you will still be happy and be moving on. And while I’ve developed a lot of emotional strength and an objective standpoint, its created where sometimes I follow technique too much, and I have more of a tendency to fall into the “Being a little too cold” approach and maybe a little robotic at times.

And who knows, maybe she would have blown me off anyways, and wasn't that into me. Or there was another guy in the picture, or all sorts of combinations and other things. But until this, I really felt like she was into things. Course, I guess if she was really into things, I think she would have called to clear up any uncertainties about the plans.

In regards to calling to confirm plans. Like you, my word is golden. If I say something, I mean it. I know that I'm going to uphold my half of the bargain. Also. It's not that I'm uninterested if I'm not reaching out, I just want to see effort put into me as well. So if we both have that mindset, how do things pan out? You either stallmate, or someone caves and you both win.

Obviously the situation sucked, I still wish things would have worked out a little better and could have lasted longer. It was a loss. I mean, duh. Otherwise I wouldn’t have written this with so much detail! Haha

[Shoukon]

Hey Greenemerald.
I understand the pain of a lost love due to several severe breaches of the relationship that puts you in the position of loving someone, but not being allowed to love them because you understand they are venom in your life. I believe you had it correct when you stated,
" I mourn for "what could have been", I mourn for the man who I thought he was. It doesn't help that he's sending me sweet and loving messages, but I am standing firm on my decision. "
Your pain is due to the possibilities that could have happened with the type of man you thought you were with, not because you miss this particular person, he isn't what you thought he was or what you want. Know that you're doing well enough, even though it's the most chaotic of pains, to keep away from him and make sure, when ready, to find ways to continuously keep the drive alive to find that life you're mourning right now.

[greenemerald]

GLYC, after you have provided the background, I have to say that yes, you have taken things a little too far. I can honestly say that if I was that woman, I would have reacted exactly as she did.

“Maybe I took it too far, after a few weeks of only contacting her once a week. I guess I always figured if she really wanted to talk, she would just message me. Which I do think women should do, why hold back?”

Here’s my response to that: In the first few dates, women are not really that comfortable yet reaching out to a man…especially when she hears crickets between dates. In most dating advice for women, they emphasized that women need to “lay back and let the man take the lead.” They explained that a woman should also take notice of the man's actions between dates. They said, even though dates are important, it is the man’s actions between dates that tells you if he is really interested in you. Does he call? Does he keep in touch? Does he text? Does he ask how you are doing? This is the element that you missed. Women, in general, love feeling special. This makes her feel special. The difference between men with lukewarm behavior and men who are genuinely interested (in my many years of dating) are those little things they did between dates. I am not saying that this is 100% of the time, but in all honesty, this is majority of the times.

I must point out that the dating coaches I often read are men who give advice to women. Why? Because they are men, they know how men think, they know what makes men think a woman is desperate, clingy, full of drama, etc. Here is my train of thought if I was that woman you were interested in: “Mmm…I really like him, but he never text me during the week before dates. If he thinks of me, he should want to text me or make a quick call. Maybe he is seeing or talking to other women. Maybe he is busy with work. Is he always going to be this busy once he is my bf? He is already too busy now while he is only a potential. If I’ll text and do the pursuing, he is going to think I’m desperate or clingy. He is the man so initially, he should be the one pursuing since I am not comfortable yet to reciprocate the pursuit. But here is this other man, John. He likes me, too. He shows it by keeping in touch. He seems to care more than GLYC, he asks me about my day and he says he thinks of me. This feels much better. I feel special. Maybe I should invest in John instead.”

As you can see, it is difficult for her to decipher your intentions. I think you played it way too cool that you ended up placing yourself in the category of “not as interested”. Because women get emotionally attached quicker than men, we have to be wiser on who we spend our time with to avoid getting hurt. In her eyes, you were a risky investment. While fictitious John was a safer bet. They always say “When a man shows you who he really is in the beginning, believe him”. Based on your actions, she believed that you were uninterested, therefore, she had to pull herself back in order to avoid getting attached.

Let me give you my own experience: let’s call the guy (who was my first choice) Guy A and the other guy (second choice) Guy B. So, I was really into Guy A. We had fun during our 2 dates. BUT, I would never hear from him between dates. It sucked. How was I supposed to grow my fond feelings of him when he could not even send one quick text to say hello? I thought “He can’t possibly be this busy. If he has time to sit in a toilet, he has time to send a quick hello. Maybe he’s not interested as much. I’m sure he has other women he is talking to. This is the only logical explanation because men who are genuinely interested would not be quiet the entire week”. So now, I have no choice but to do a compare and contrast Guy A and Guy B. Guy B made me feel special by keeping in touch between dates. He would say hello, that he was thinking of me, that he could not wait to see me again, etc. They were just quick and short messages every now and then. I felt that because he kept in touch, he really wanted me to know that his interest was real and was looking for a meaningful relationship. I was able to bond with him more with those short and quick text messages. Because he invested more time on me, I grew to like him more and more. As you can guess already, I did not pick the guy who was my 1st choice. He did not make me feel cherished and special. I chose Guy B instead.

“She also thought since I didn't call to confirm that we weren't doing anything that day.”

My point exactly. Men should confirm. If a man does not confirm, there really is no date. Think of it this way. If you are quiet the entire week, no text at all, made her feel you are not serious, she was not feeling special, and not even a date confirmation, that is a lot of emotional risk a woman has to take in your attempt to play it “cool”. We, women, find anguish in those actions, to be honest. We often think “this is not how a man behaves when he’s really into someone”. We don’t like that.

“I didn't know what to say and felt like i was getting mixed signals, I said in an earlier text message that if she really wanted to make up for things she could meet me at one of the towns and buy me a beer since she left me waiting and i was literally out in the middle of nowhere, she rejected the idea with an excuse.”

It pains me to read what you had said above. You said you were getting mixed signals from her. Well, the reason why was because you were giving her mixed signals for weeks. You seemed interested (taking her out on dates), yet uninterested (crickets between dates). That categorizes as mixed signals to me. And the “if you really wanted to make up for the things, you could meet me at one of the towns and buy me a beer." Of course she rejected the idea. I would have rejected the idea. It was a bold move on your part to say “if you really wanted to make up for things”. Make up for what? The date she did not think she had because you did not confirm? It even killed me more when you said “you could buy me a beer”. Ugh! A little…mmm……arrogant?? That didn’t really appeal to her softer side, hence, she declined. Your inaction (not confirming the date) led to her inaction (not showing up). So why is she the one making up for something you failed to do? As far as she was probably concerned, you kinda started this whole inaction thing.

“I just suggested maybe we could do something some other time, she said definitely, I asked when she was going to be free, she opened up her schedule. I said I just had to check my schedule and would call her sometime next week (as I just wasn't feeling like making definite plans immediately while I was being left alone at our meeting spot after an hour and a half drive, and was getting some second thoughts). Honestly, that was a bad move anyways. I should have just left it at "maybe some other time and walked". Afterall, would you leave someone you were interested in at your meeting spot alone? Hell no.”

Would you let a woman hear crickets between dates, feeling like you don't care, and NOT call to confirm the date if you were interested? Hell no. A little double standard here on your part. As far as I could see it, there was no date. As far as you could see it, there was. This could have been simply avoided by calling to confirm.

“I tried calling her like 8 days later, but she never returned my call.”

I hate to say it, but I would not return, what appears to be, a lukewarm attempt. 8 days, really? One could go on a cruise to the Bahamas, come back, and still would not hear from you. Or better yet, one could go to the moon (about 3 days), chill there for 1 day, then come back to earth (about 3 days), and still not miss a call or text from you. 8 days is just too long from someone who was supposed to be that interested.

“And while I’ve developed a lot of emotional strength and an objective standpoint, its created where sometimes I follow technique too much, and I have more of a tendency to fall into the “Being a little too cold” approach and maybe a little robotic at times.”

I agree. You followed it to the T. Emotions are fluid. Techniques are just guidelines, but one needs to be flexible a little to find that happy medium. Not texting AT ALL is bad. Texting too much is bad. There’s a happy medium there somewhere. A very short quick text between dates really makes a world of difference. Trust me. We like it when you text us. Women guard their emotions initially until we can see that you are investing. And then, we can start initiating the text messages, too. NO TEXT BETWEEN DATES FOR WEEKS = risky investment on our part.

“And who knows, maybe she would have blown me off anyways, and wasn't that into me. Or there was another guy in the picture, or all sorts of combinations and other things. But until this, I really felt like she was into things.”

I genuinely believe she liked you a lot based on her compliments, worrying about appearing desperate, almost crying, wanting to hear from you, wanting you to confirm, telling you that you were cute. These are not actions of women who are not interested. We just don’t care about these things if we don’t like a man. Was there another guy in the picture? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe not. But if I were to guess, highly likely there was. A guy who gave her more attention than you did. Why do I think this? Because when you started showing more interest, she left anyway. In her mind, it was probably too little too late. She had already invested in someone else. Hard to trade a safe bet for a somewhat risky one. But I have a nagging feeling she would have chosen you if you had just showed her clear interest.

“Course, I guess if she was really into things, I think she would have called to clear up any uncertainties about the plans.”

Here is the issue: you strictly followed a technique not to confirm a date. Not a chivalrous move. Due to that, she assumed there was no plan. If you did not reach out at all, it is fair that she did not reach out, too. After all, you are the man. It’s a potential relationship. It was your job to make her feel secure initially by confirming. I can understand that once she is comfortable, she could call you. But until she reaches that level of comfort, she would be hesitant to make that move and appear needy.

This is a shame because this was a case of miscommunication and too much techniques involved. I do apologize if my feedback may have appeared a little harsh (I hope not! But if they were, it is only tough love). So, forgive me. I am simply speaking on her behalf as well as making you understand how frustrating it is for us, women, when a guy appears uninterested (even though he really is into us). We let the man take the lead, but if you seem to be leading us towards a lot of guessing, confusion, and ambiguity, we tend to jump ship for fear of getting emotionally hurt. Let you intentions be clear. Don’t make her second-guess you. Focus on building TRUST. And in time, she will start trusting you, start trusting your intentions that you are for real. She will then feel comfortable initiating text and not worry about appearing needy because she already trusts you. You know what women value above all things? FEELING SAFE. As a man, you can provide that for her by making her feel that you are safe to put her heart on the line.

Are we good? Not mad at me, are you? LOL! It was a long response I had to make there. Even longer than my initial plea for some support. You're welcome. I'm exhausted. I need a nap. And some Ibuprofen. My head hurts. Haha

[greenemerald]

Hello Shoukon,
I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my post. You are absolutely correct. It did place me in a position of loving someone, but not being allowed to love them at the same time. The tricky part about breaking up with someone who betrayed you is that: your principle mandates you to break ties even though the strong feelings are still there. Would have been easier if I fell out of love, or got bored, or felt the spark was gone, etc. But we can't always choose the easier route, right?

You are also correct in saying that my pain is due to the possibilities that could have happened with the type of man I thought I was with, not because I miss this particular person. I think it boils down to habits. I got used to having him in my life that it, understandably, left a void. The text messages I was getting are no longer there. The nice times together are no longer there. The phone calls. His attention. His presence. Because if someone would have asked me this prior to meeting my ex:
"Hey, I have this handsome, accomplished, charming man I would like for you to meet. He will make you feel very special, cherished, and adored. BUT at some point in the future, he is going to cheat on you twice. After that, you may no longer trust him or believe him. Are you interested?"

Me: "HELL NO!" (See how easy and painless I would have answered that?) Until feelings are involved, then it becomes a big mountain to climb.

However, people like you and others in this forum who cared to respond really made a lot of difference. I cannot stress that enough. People who are supportive here are really starting to brighten my days. I have to say I have not shed tears the last couple of days and have been laughing a lot again. Of course, my mind wanders back to him sometimes, but lately I catch myself thinking "What a low life!" Which, I think, is great because my heart and my head are starting to work together now. They used to operate independently.

To give you an example: last night I received a text from him saying: "Should I assume that you no longer want a ring?"
The freshly-broken-up me would have thought that was a sweet message. Meaning, he still wants to give me a ring by mentioning it.
The last-night me thought "Is he smoking crack? Which part of we are over led him to believe I still want a ring? Yes dear, it is very safe to assume that."
I know, I know. A little mean thought, but his question practically begged for such thought.
However, he was greeted with silence. That was a silly question to ask. He will figure it out.
If it's over, what would possess a man to ask that? Is this a Hail Mary pass?

I am hopeful that the great days are coming soon (since it is starting to feel that way). In the meantime, I will continue to come here for some great support.
Thank you for taking the time to respond.

[GLYC]

Not mad at all. I appreciate the honesty and the well thought out response. I'll take honesty, over being told BS to feel good any day of the week.
It's what I needed to hear. And is definitely the kind of tweak I needed. Its really the subtle changes that make the difference.
Its nice to hear a female perspective on it for a change. One that actually has a healthy and well-built personality.

And it's not like I was a complete cold person, I was caring and sweet when i reached out and spoke with her while arranging dates.
But when you rely on techniques to the point where you limit yourself from contacting someone due to some special rules. Eh, bad way to go. Too much technique.

Yeah, there is a lot of dating material that suggests men need to chase, and women need to avoid chasing/reaching out or else they will turn off a man. I disagree with the ones that say men need to chase, but they do need to initiate. And like you said, it doesn't take much. Less really is more.
And that's definitely true about the comfort thing with women reaching out. Some women will reach out right away, but you're right, in the beginning, yeah not very often.

You're right about the buy me a beer comment, that was pretty douchey. I actually had a comment written next to it, that said that, but I deleted it.
The better response would have been "Come on, get out here, ive been waiting all week to see you"

I guess you live and you learn, and when you mess things up with a woman you really connect with, well, those are the ones that really hurt (and also the ones where you will learn the most from).

Thank you for the feedback,

-also I will likely say more, or comment about your ex boyfriend post stuff, but I need sleep. Sleeping in a thunderstorm tonight, stoked, love that feeling with sleeping with rain hitting the roof. Soo relaxing

-and, exhausted? Go get some sleep woman! It's what, 3:00 on a Wednesday in California? Haha

[greenemerald]

GLYC, hahaha. It's not 3 am yet, but it's definitely Wednesday here. I am in the medical field. Hours are long. I am use to sleeping very, very late as well as sleep deprivation. The price one pays when trying to save the world.

"The better response would have been "Come on, get out here, ive been waiting all week to see you"

That was perfect. And smooth. And very manly. Sexy. Sweet. Subtly persistent which shows interest. Charming. All rolled into one.

It makes me wanna show up at the meeting spot. And I'm not even involved in this equation. Hahaha.

Man: "If you really wanna make it up, you can buy me a beer". = "I really wanna see you"
Woman: (thinking) "Who the heck does he think he is?"

Man: "Come on, get out here. I've been waiting all week to see you" = "I really wanna see you"
Woman: (thinking) "That was irresistibly charming. Mmmm... I like that. Been waiting to see him, too. I better go"

See? That goes to show you how you can package something differently and still get the same message across.

Your "if you really wanna make things up, you can buy me a beer" comment is not a bad one at all. But this comment should have been saved for when she was already comfortable with you. When she no longer had doubts about your intentions. When you have texted her between dates. When you two were already closer. When she was already comfortable reaching out to you, texting you, calling you. There's a time and place for this comment. It is witty and in a teasing manner. You just happened to use it at the wrong time. And when you act like the Cricket Whisperer, you don't have the luxury of using this comment just yet. LOL

And no, I'm not going to bed just yet either. Haha

[GLYC]

Medical field. Great decision, it fits your nature perfectly.
I know several nurses, and the woman I mentioned was well on her way to becoming one, they make great lovers and friends.
They have such a great nurturing, humble, ambitious (that curriculum is tough!) and caring side to them, they also have a tendency of having a really good sense of humor (Partially, I also think it's a necessity to cope with some of the stressors that come with working in regards to human life). Or based on my experiences at least.


"Should I assume that you no longer wish to have a ring?"
-If it's over, what would possess a man to ask that? Is this a Hail Mary pass?-

It's a terrible response on his part. He's essentially bribing you (with the idea of marriage), that if you two get back together, he will propose, you two will live happily ever after, etc. And he's hoping to instill that happily ever after image back in your head to reel you back in. Which, I'm sure it made you think for a second.
But you're smarter than that, and why would you want to marry a cheater? You value honesty and commitment, he obviously doesnt.

It is definitely a Hail Mary. What are you supposed to think? "Oh my God, yes! You treated me like I have no value, completely took me for granted, and that our time together meant nothing, but now you're thinking otherwise. Yes yes yes, Ask me to Marry you pleeeease!"

Unless of course I'm misinterpreting this and he's British, "Should I assume that you no longer wish for me to ring you on your cellular device?"
Hahaha

[greenemerald]

"I know several nurses, and the woman I mentioned was well on her way to becoming one, they make great lovers and friends. They have such a great nurturing, humble, ambitious (that curriculum is tough!) and caring side to them, they also have a tendency of having a really good sense of humor (Partially, I also think it's a necessity to cope with some of the stressors that come with working in regards to human life)."

- Amen! Great assessment.

"And he's hoping to instill that happily ever after image back in your head to reel you back in. Which, I'm sure it made you think for a second."

-Wrong assessment. I did not even think that even for a millisecond. Here's what I thought soon as I saw the message: "Is he smoking crack?"

I'm in a good place right now. When I mourn, I mourn hard. Once that's out, I'm on my way to bigger and better things.

I actually read my initial post last night and saw the stark difference between where I was at then (days ago) and where I am not now.

Time and resilience is all I needed.

And no, he better not ring my phone either. Hahaha. I'm not interested in any kind of ring.

He mistook my kindness for weakness. Bad move.

[pcmaster]

Oh my God, yes! You treated me like I have no value, completely took me for granted, and that our time together meant nothing, but now you're thinking otherwise. Yes yes yes, Ask me to Marry you pleeeease!

Im sorry to hear that you been treated like you have no value [MENTION=85795]GLYC[/MENTION] . But at least you got offer to get married.

[GLYC]

Im sorry to hear that you been treated like you have no value [MENTION=85795]GLYC[/MENTION] . But at least you got offer to get married.

Someone wants to marry me? Wow, things are really looking up!

[pcmaster]

Someone wants to marry me? Wow, things are really looking up!

Yeah think its the same chick you dated 4 years ago. Your grandmothers best friend.

[greenemerald]

And here I was...

Wasting my precious time and brain power giving solid advice about texting & confirming

Not realizing you're about to get hitched!

[greenemerald]

GLYC, I missed this part of what you said.

"It's a terrible response on his part."

Here's the thing. There was no conversation. He was not responding to anything I said. It was an out of the blue question.
I was just going about my day and a text popped up. "Should I assume that you no longer want a ring?"

Regardless, it is still a Hail Mary as you said. A desperate move due to several unsuccessful attempts.
That was the other day. I did not respond to that.

Yesterday, I received a "I hope that you had a good day" text. Did not respond to that either.

Today, I received a "Hey love, I hope that you are having a great morning" (with a heart emoji). I did not respond to that either.
The boldness actually baffles me. Hey love? I mean, come on!

Tonight, I got a "Baby, I still have your license plate in my account. I can add you so that you won't have to pay the toll roads". Again, unsolicited text.

I feel like responding with "There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's Mastercard".

But I won't give him the luxury of enjoying my sense of humor! Haha

[GLYC]

I meant response I guess just as a general phrase. Bad English probably on my part.

Yeah, bold moves.

Really if a woman doesnt respond once..
..Obviously though he did the **** ups of all **** ups. He thinks he can do/say something to win you back.
In reality, there isn't a single text message in the world that can save his situation. Actually, in reality there's really nothing he can do period to save his situation.

I'm going to laugh really hard if his next one is a Google'd text message from one of those "Say these simple words to get her to respond to your text message" articles.
"Oh, my god, you'll never guess what just happened!"

That Mastercard line is hilarious. I actually laughed out loud at that one. I want you to send it. But dont. Hahaha