The friend that knows all...

[Phil Davies]

We're talking about a dumb twat that bitches about her bf to another dumb twat while the bf asks her not to, but she doesn't give a shit. This dumb twat is not marriage material so forget it. F#ck her one last time and after the sex, tell her it ain't gunna work and peace out. I'm sure her and her friend will have plenty to talk about for the next year

No way you're female. If you are, you must look like Anne Wolfe meets Freddy Mercury.

[Wakeup]

It will eventually. How many 60 year old women in your bingo support group have besties that send pissed off "leave my friend alone" texts to other women's husbands? Men and women both outgrow the super tight, attached at the hip and in your ear all the time "friends" when they get deep into serious relationships, its the natural order of things.

Sisters on the other hand. Don't even get me started about those.

"When they get "deep into a serious relationship" They've been going together too long.. People in NEW relationships (temporarily) dump their friends for their seriously developing SO. You're wrong about Op and his chick in this
instance so just admit it.

He's already admitted to having had a bad experience with her prior which means this has been an off and on relationship.... They never turn out happily ever after.

Repeated in case you missed it.

[Phil Davies]

Is this gonna be an ongoing thing with you were you follow me from thread to thread hoping to somehow "prove me wrong"? You're pissed because I'm right and it contradicts you. It happens. And because you're generally wrong about everything I'm assuming its going to happen often.

That said, his "previously bad experience" could have been anything from him cheating to this same friend. We have no idea. What we do know is that these aren't kids they're in their early-mid 30's for christ sake. This is the age where EVERY relationship is viewed on some level as serious. These aren't high school kids trading sex bracelets. Furthermore, my preface was IF HE LOVES HER AND THINKS SHES WORTH THE WAIT AND EFFORT. Obviously if this is really "on again, off again" and he's that unhappy then he doesn't and he won't.

But if they stay together, move in together, buy a house, get a dog, start spending saturdays at Home Depot and Olive Garden ... guess what, her "friend" is not going to be in the picture as much. Everyone knows this. Its the natural order of life, people lose touch as they mature into their relationships. You saying I'm wrong about this shows your ignorance or immaturity over a silly message board rivalry.

[Wakeup]

Sorry love.. you're quite wrong there... You're pissed because i DIDN'T agree with you. Love has **** all to do with a successful relationship. You should know that from personal experience. He shouldn't move in together or do any of those things that people in happy and successful relationships should do. It's been pointed out to him that their union is not a sucessful one by the very fact that he's had a bad experience with her prior and now he's found that they are totally incompatible in very fundatmental personal boundaries. People who mary people who have proven to them that they are fundamentally incompatible are called codependent.

[Phil Davies]

We need a better eye-rolling smilie here.

[Wakeup]

Oh that's intelligent... Not!

[Phil Davies]

How the **** do you know these people are "fundamentally incompatible"? Thats a pretty bold assertion just because they "had some problem previously". Every problem he's brought to our attention has to do with this "friend". This guy came here for legitimate perspective and advice and the bullseye you put on my back is clouding your better judgement.

[Wakeup]

I know they're fundamentally incompatible because he told us so in his posts. He is private.. she likes to share. He says don't but she does. He's had a bad experience with her prior. He wants his financials private... she likes to shout their net worth out to the world... and this is just what he's shared. One can only imagine where else they're opposites. If you're a relationship guru then this shit should be obvious to you.

[Phil Davies]

I know they're fundamentally incompatible because he told us so in his posts. He is private.. she likes to share. He says don't but she does. He's had a bad experience with her prior. He wants his financials private... she likes to shout their net worth out to the world... and this is just what he's shared. One can only imagine where else they're opposites. If you're a relationship guru then this shit should be obvious to you.

Are you shitting me? LOL

He wants his finances private and she doesn't? OH SHIT RELATIONSHIP OVER! INCOMPATIBILITY ALERT! RIPCORD TIME!

[Wakeup]

Are you shitting me? LOL

He wants his finances private and she doesn't? OH SHIT RELATIONSHIP OVER! INCOMPATIBILITY ALERT! RIPCORD TIME!

See unfortunately you yourself don't understand fundamental incompatibility. If you did then you would have never married your wife so your cynicism is understandable.

[Phil Davies]

Actually thats the very reason I DO understand it. If I could stay with someone for 12 years that I'm legitimately "fundamentally incompatible" with I'm pretty sure this guy can password protect his Quickbooks file and stick it out for a few months to see if the friend hops in the backseat.

[Wakeup]

Actually thats the very reason I DO understand it. If I could stay with someone for 12 years that I'm legitimately "fundamentally incompatible" with I'm pretty sure this guy can password protect his Quickbooks file and stick it out for a few months to see if the friend hops in the backseat.

With that statement I suggest you Google codependent and read about what ails you. An unhappy existence of 12 years is not a healthy relationship.

[Phil Davies]

Who said it was healthy? Clearly I'm the one with the unique perspective here.

[Wakeup]

^^^ Google codependency. My point. You can't give codependent advice to someone and expect them to be happy when you are not happy and you doing your own advice has failed you.

You have been a successful pick up artist but I'm doubting your relationship artist advice. Sorry!

Anyway, the Op can decide for himself. If he's codependent then he won't actually leave her like he said he's going to anyway. Ce la vie.

[Phil Davies]

Nothing he said led me to believe they are "fundamentally incompatible" so I don't believe they'll be codependent. And I absolutely CAN give advice about the kind of relationship I'm CURRENTLY IN for christ sake.

Its like telling an alcoholic at AA that he can't encourage people not to drink.