Insecure men

[BackUpOrGetStng]

I was mocking the article by being facetious when I said I was trying to depoliticize the word. Guess it went over your head. People can say cunt, nigger, wop, spic, all of it..I don't give a ****. Racist/sexist people tend to alienate themselves. I think way to high too highly of myself to let someone's opinion of me upset me.

As for your other "interesting article", the author seems to prove the point of the people badmouthing her. She states she has a gender-neutral name which to me indicates she thinks her gender should be ambiguous. What she's failed to take into account is the manner and the subject matter of what she's addressing. She makes it dead obvious she's female, so of course no one says "this guy's an asshole". Scolding people for giving their opinion on the internet is something obnoxious cunts do(like anonymous_a did in this thread). She's upset people don't hail her as some wise soothsayer, when in reality, people don't address men in the same situation like that either. Obnoxious, entitled, whiny...cunt. Was this article written by a man?

As for pissing on the car, it was more like pissing behind it to shield myself from passers by, but I was kinda drunk and wobbly, so nothing was really safe. Not my finest hour.

Anonymous, I've admitted to being a dick. If you don't really care, shut the **** up. I do not care how my words affect a person on the "other side of the keyboard". Not my problem.

[searock]

I was mocking the article by being facetious when I said I was trying to depoliticize the word. Guess it went over your head. People can say cunt, nigger, wop, spic, all of it..I don't give a ****. Racist/sexist people tend to alienate themselves. I think way to high too highly of myself to let someone's opinion of me upset me.

Good for you to be so strong, however most people who are part of minorities or anyway suffer from discrimination even if they aren't minorities (i.e. females) aren't so strong and words do hurt, especially when they help perpetuate the very problem. It's ok if you don't care, I'm just saying it how it is.

As for your other "interesting article", the author seems to prove the point of the people badmouthing her. She states she has a gender-neutral name which to me indicates she thinks her gender should be ambiguous. What she's failed to take into account is the manner and the subject matter of what she's addressing. She makes it dead obvious she's female, so of course no one says "this guy's an asshole".

Er, guess you didn't read the article: the person who wrote it is actually a guy. They specifically use gender-neutral pronouns to address this very issue. Guess they make a valid point after all, huh?

Scolding people for giving their opinion on the internet is something obnoxious cunts do(like anonymous_a did in this thread). She's upset people don't hail her as some wise soothsayer, when in reality, people don't address men in the same situation like that either. Obnoxious, entitled, whiny...cunt. Was this article written by a man?

Yes it was, but that's beyond the point. The issue is that when men get insulted on the internet, nobody specifically points out the fact that they are men to insult them. You can't call a person a "guy" or "dude" to insult them, whereas you can call a person a "chick" or "girl" to insult them. This is the issue. It would have made absolutely no difference if the article had been written by a woman: it wouldn't have made it less valid or true. The fact that you think it would have (and actually thought it did until you realized the article was a man) actually proves the article's point. How sad.

[anonymous_a]

I do not care how my words affect a person on the "other side of the keyboard". Not my problem.

You just sound like a bully. One day your words will affect the wrong person. What then, if they kill themselves? Obviously this is an extreme situation, but seriously, how would you feel then?

[BackUpOrGetStng]

If they kill themselves because of "something I said", there's obviously a lot more going on there(which is your point, I get it). Still, I'm not the habit of taking responsibility for the personal choices of others, so, as I said earlier..not my problem. You can't make someone want to kill themselves. You have to have nerve, and want to do it. That's not an effect of my personal opinion of someone's situation.


If the OP killed herself after reading what I said about her, I might then die of laughter.

[BackUpOrGetStng]

Searock, on what planet are chick and girl insults?

Anyway, the author is a dude who is whiny and emotional, and these are traits typically associated with women. The guy sounded like a woman, so he was insulted as a woman. You're making it sound as if they thought he was a man, he would face no ridicule. If his name was Benjamin, he'd be called an asshole and a dickhead.

Also, since when is eating a girl out seen as more disgusting than a blowjob? Lil Wayne talks about eating girls out all the time, and he is a front runner in arguably the most misogynistic group of people. I'll gladly wear a girl like a hat.

[searock]

Searock, on what planet are chick and girl insults?

They are not insults per se: did you read the article? It explain in clear terms how chick and girl can be used as insults, whereas dude and guy can not. When you (the general you) want to insult someone, if it's a girl, most of the times you will explicitly point out that she is a girl. You will actually use the fact that she is a girl as an insult, as if being a girl was per se a sort of disadvantage.

Anyway, the author is a dude who is whiny and emotional, and these are traits typically associated with women.

LOL, this association is (part of) sexism. It's precisely the problem. Besides, he isn't actually whiny and emotional (no more than the average person is).

The guy sounded like a woman, so he was insulted as a woman. You're making it sound as if they thought he was a man, he would face no ridicule. If his name was Benjamin, he'd be called an asshole and a dickhead.

Maybe he would: nobody would explicitly point out the fact that he is a guy specifically to insult him, though. "Because maleness is our societal default setting, it’s never mentioned."

[BackUpOrGetStng]

No, I did not read the article. I would have thought that was apparent at this point, though I am a sharp cookie for calling that it was guy who wrote it. I do know that some females don't like words like chick, but I've also heard plenty of females refer to each other as bitches, bitties, hoes, slut, and I'm sure plenty of others. Agree to disagree I guess, because I don't see how pointing out someone's gender is insulting, and I can't see a way it would be effective if someone did.

As far as that association being a part of sexism, I can agree it is, but only if it leads to discriminatory behavior. I don't think making an observation is sexism. Is it sexism to say that women are typically more nurturing and detail oriented than male counterparts? There are good and bad traits associated with each gender an while they don't encompass the whole group there is truth to them. You can't deny that by and large women whine and cry more than men do. Of course there are whiny men, and in large numbers, but I've very rarely had to console a grown man crying, whereas I've had to to console just about every female friend I've had at some point..sometimes over things such as not being invited to a camping trip or or not doing well on an exam. I've never had to deal with a male coworker crying over how our boss handled something. I've dealt with a few women blubbering over getting chewed out or something not going their way, and plenty more incessant whiners. Anyway, if the guy had been standing in front of him, they would likely choose a different insult. From what you posted, it looks like the author is being attacked as a woman for what he's saying, but not for being woman.

Bitch/cunt and dog/prick mean the exact same things, you're never gonna convince me that either is sexist or that one is more so than the other.

[toknow]

Good for you to be so strong

He is not strong, he just doesn't have the brain power to comprehend the insult....LOL.

[Maple1714]

"Regardless of what language you speak, your intent manifests through the word.The word is a force; it is the power you have to express and communicate, to think, and thereby to create events in your life. You can speak. What other animal on the planet can speak? The word is the most powerful tool you have as a human; it is the tool of magic."

As a woman, I feel...not think...but feel that the word "cunt" holds more negative connotation than the word "dick". Sure, both words refer to the genitalia of each sex, but when the word "cunt" comes from a man...it feels more harsh. Men oppressed women for a long time and still do in many parts of the world. Just like when the word "nigger" comes from the mouth of a white person directed towards an African American...doesn't that carry a harsher connotation/feeling than if 2 African Americans say it to one another? White people in the US oppressed African Americans. Words carry a lot of emotional weight. Backup chooses not to be impeccable with his word; his choice.

[searock]

No, I did not read the article.

I think you should read it, it explains a lot of things. It's not a long read and it's very clear. http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/05/things-ive-learned-from-writing-under-a-gender-neutral-name/

I do know that some females don't like words like chick, but I've also heard plenty of females refer to each other as bitches, bitties, hoes, slut, and I'm sure plenty of others.

So what? There are plenty of sexist women. They don't even realize that they are sexist, because society has made it the norm to be. For example, women who think "all women are crazy", women who think it's ok to have to act more "manly" in order to be respected, women who insult other women for being "sluts", etc... The fact that internalized sexism exists doesn't make sexism ok.

Agree to disagree I guess, because I don't see how pointing out someone's gender is insulting, and I can't see a way it would be effective if someone did.

Really? You have never seen guys dismissing a woman just because she was a woman? Thinking her opinion and words were less important than those of men, simply because she was a woman? You can't think of one episode in which a person has been called a female in a derogatory way? Including men... men insult each other sometimes by telling each other that they "act like a girl", are "sissies", and so on: as if the mere fact of being a woman or being like a woman were something to be ashamed of. If you really have never witnessed such episodes, we must live on different planets.

As far as that association being a part of sexism, I can agree it is, but only if it leads to discriminatory behavior.

There's nothing wrong with being emotional, so I don't think saying that women are more "emotional" than men (meaning that they show their emotions more than men do) is derogatory, of course. Whiny, though? Of course it is, and it's a misconception. Being emotional and crying more often than men simply means that women show their emotions more (and part of the reason for which they do is that they are taught since a very young age that it's ok to show emotions, whereas boys get taught that it isn't), it doesn't mean that they are "whiny". Whiny people are people who complain excessively for no real reason, just to get attention. If someone is genuinely upset at something and lets it all out by crying or talking, it doesn't mean they are whining.

You can't deny that by and large women whine and cry more than men do.

Cry? Yes. Whine? No.

From what you posted, it looks like the author is being attacked as a woman for what he's saying, but not for being woman.

He isn't saying "typically womanly" things (whatever those are o.O?), he simply talks about sexism, homophobia and the like, which are obviously not gender-oriented issues. Sexist people assume that he is a woman, probably because the thought of him being a guy would be too uncomfortable for them to bear? Either way, people assume and believe that he is a woman, and they attack him with sexist insults. If he had used a blatantly male pseudonym, people would have still attacked him of course, but they would have used gender-neutral insults (or they would have insulted him with other sexist insults such as "are you on your period, nancy?").

The male gender holds no negative meaning in itself. Guys see it as an insult to be considered "like girls", the vice versa is not true.

[Lord Darkshire]

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