Quote Worth Reading!

[sine24]

Hey guys, i came across this quote..thought it was pretty powerful yet true stuff. Here it is:

"If a man wants you, nothing can keep him away.
If he doesn't want you, nothing can make him stay. Stop making excuses for a man and his behavior.
Allow your intuition (or spirit) to save you from heartache. Stop trying to change yourself for a relationship that's not meant to be. Slower is better. Never live your life for a manbefore you find what makes you truly happy.
If a relationship ends because the man was not treating you as you deserve then heck no,you can't "be friends". A friend wouldn't mistreat a friend.

Don't settle. If you feel like he is stringing you along, then he probably is.
Don't stay because you think "it will get better."
You'll be mad at yourself a year later for staying when things are not better.
The only person you can control in a relationship is you. Avoid men who've got a bunch of children by a bunch of different women.
He didn't marry them when he got them pregnant, why would he treat you any differently?
Always have your own set of friends separate from his.

Maintain boundaries in how a guy treats you. If something bothers you,
speak up. Never let a man know everything. He will use it against you
later. You cannot change a man's behavior. Change comes from within.
Don't EVER make him feel he is more important than you are... even if
he has more education or in a better job. Do not make him into a quasi-god.
He is a man, nothing more nothing less. Never let a man define who
you are. Never borrow someone else's man. If he cheated with you, he'll
cheat on you. A man will only treat you the way you ALLOW him to
treat you. All men are NOT dogs. You should not be the one doing
all the bending...compromise is two way street. You need time to heal
between relationships... there is nothing cute about baggage. Deal
with your issues before pursuing a new relationship.

You should never look for someone to COMPLETE you... a relationship consists of two
WHOLE individuals... look for someone complimentary...not supplementary.
Dating is fun... even if he doesn't turn out to be Mr. Right. Make him
miss you sometimes... when a man always know where you are, and you're
always readily available to him - he takes it for granted. Never move
into his mother's house. Never co-sign for a man. Don't fully commit
to a man who doesn't give you everything that you need. Keep him in
your radar, but get to know others."- Oprah

[Michael6084]

sadly enough, most guys ARENT like that on here and are most likely to be strung along by girls.

it's a shame that this is based on asshole guys and people like me aren't like this.

i'd really love to see one where it puts responsibility on the guy on how "if your woman tries to pull you along, leave her" type of thing.

i think it's funny how this advice is from oprah who, last i heard, isn't married.

also a flaw on this is that many girls end up showing affection to the wrong type of guy, so that by the time they find the right type of guy, they are now used to believing its all about how "he makes you feel." i tell you, the good guys who are not kiss-asses and arent assholes need more credit than it is due in society.

i may get flak for typing this, but im personally tired of these types of posts when i go through a girl who ended up cheating on me by having sex with some random guy and a different girl who ends up spreading false statements about me to everyone i know the next day after we broke up. im not trying to get sympathy for saying this, i'm just saying that there are good guys out there and this type of post ends up making the good guys who want a TRUE equal relationship into a man=slave/woman=master type of "relationship".

so in my experience, i find this post to be bullshit.

[sine24]

I have to disagree..the quote merely encapsulates the idea that some females are just too submissive in relationships. As she says, "Not all men are dogs", "a relationship consists of two whole individuals", "look for someone complementary"...which clearly establishes that a relationship should be "EQUAL" like you said. By no means does it make a personal attack on "asshole guys". Find me an excerpt which implies such an idea. It's all about intuition, independency, and balance. It seems to me like you're hurting right now..hope it all gets better for yah.

[Gigabitch]

i may get flak for typing this, but im personally tired of these types of posts when i go through a girl who ended up cheating on me by having sex with some random guy and a different girl who ends up spreading false statements about me to everyone i know the next day after we broke up .

Girls who respect themselves the way the Oprah quote recommends wouldn't do that kind of thing. You say you're not an asshole guy- why are you dating asshole girls?

I think you should reverse the genders in the quote and apply them to yourself.

[IndiReloaded]

i tell you, the good guys who are not kiss-asses and arent assholes need more credit than it is due in society.

I don't really have an opinion on the quote. Its okay; some ppl will get something out of it. Others won't. Shrug.

BUT I do agree w/what Michael said above. Good guys are getting the shit-end of the stick these days. Scrambling around to find the answer to a question that many women don't even realize isn't even a question anymore.

Just be *nice* to each other. Help each other to grow & be human. If someone's not ready for that, or doesn't have a ****ing clue what that means, find someone else who does. If you do that, all the rest of this crap will go away.

FWIW

[Michael6084]

Girls who respect themselves the way the Oprah quote recommends wouldn't do that kind of thing. You say you're not an asshole guy- why are you dating asshole girls?

I think you should reverse the genders in the quote and apply them to yourself.

so you're saying im an asshole. first off, i've never cheated on anyone, my first kiss was when i was a senior in high school, and at one point i even RAN to a girl's house from my high school and back for a total of around 2 miles and never got a thanks for that. so im an asshole despite many girls looking for a guy who cares? i did that whole "puppy dog" shit many girls have been looking for -- a guy who's there for them and cares, but instead i got the short end of the stick, and you're gonna tell me that i'm an asshole? of course i probably did look as if i was insecure and i was back then, but i especially hate it if i try to do something nice and i get pointed at for being THE asshole.

[Gigabitch]

so you're saying im an asshole. first off, i've never cheated on anyone, my first kiss was when i was a senior in high school, and at one point i even RAN to a girl's house from my high school and back for a total of around 2 miles and never got a thanks for that. so im an asshole despite many girls looking for a guy who cares? i did that whole "puppy dog" shit many girls have been looking for -- a guy who's there for them and cares, but instead i got the short end of the stick, and you're gonna tell me that i'm an asshole? of course i probably did look as if i was insecure and i was back then, but i especially hate it if i try to do something nice and i get pointed at for being THE asshole.

Read it again. I said you were dating GIRLS who are assholes. Why don't you stop putting up with it and raise your standards?

[Michael6084]

shoot, you must think everything is the guy's fault or something.

many girls who are attractive are assholes simply because they believe they've got every guy by the nuts and i got into that myself as my own fault, but many girls are also attracted the "bad boy" image some guys give off.

we should switch this around ask this about the "nice" girls then -- "They say they are the 'nice girls' - why are they dating asshole guys?"

[Michael6084]

Read it again. I said you were dating GIRLS who are assholes. Why don't you stop putting up with it and raise your standards?

i already have, you don't know my life. im using past examples to represent other guys who go through the same bullshit.

[cheeze_guy]

Ok well I don't know if thsi will help but you could just flip it around if you are a nice guy and just take the advice and instead of where it says women let it say man and when it says all men are not dogs just put all women are not bitches and then it makes u think of it as less sexest and shit because I know for sure that I treat the woman I'm with liek an angel and that most of the time they take that shit for granted just like it says so its just true not matter if yer a girl or a guy stupid people just gunna walk all over you LIVE AND LEARN!

[IndiReloaded]

Who called you an asshole, Mike? I don't mean on this forum, I mean in real life. You're too sensitive to all this for it not to have happened.

Go on, vent. Noone here thinks that about you.

Did you even *read* my post, BTW? It looks like you replied (and misinterpreted) to Giga's post straight off. There are quite a few women who might agree w/you. Find one of those.

[Gigabitch]

we should switch this around ask this about the "nice" girls then -- "They say they are the 'nice girls' - why are they dating asshole guys?"

Um, well, I think that's where we started off, actually, with Oprah urging nice girls to keep their standards high and respect themselves.

And with regard to who is at fault in a relationship when things go bad, I think it's pretty equal. The person who puts up with mistreatment is almost as bad as the person who mistreats, regardless of gender.

Question for you, Michael: You seem unbelievably belligerent today. Are you drunk, perhaps?

[Michael6084]

Um, well, I think that's where we started off, actually, with Oprah urging nice girls to keep their standards high and respect themselves.

And with regard to who is at fault in a relationship when things go bad, I think it's pretty equal. The person who puts up with mistreatment is almost as bad as the person who mistreats, regardless of gender.

Question for you, Michael: You seem unbelievably belligerent today. Are you drunk, perhaps?

haha no im not drunk. i dont know i guess being somewhat belligerent has always been a part of me. not really sure why and interestingly enough the only times i've actually been belligerent outwardly is to my dad and some people i knew in high school.

i'm only 18 so i just graduated from high school and i got to community college and hopefully transfer to Virginia Tech or George Mason.

but anyway, sorry for getting a little volatile.

[cheeze_guy]

whatever man i can't think of a better place to get volatile then online!

[Michael6084]

Did you even *read* my post, BTW? It looks like you replied (and misinterpreted) to Giga's post straight off. There are quite a few women who might agree w/you. Find one of those.

yeah, i did, but i looked at giga's much quicker and when i heard "asshole girls" and somehow "apply it to yourself" i took it immediately somehow as that "im an asshole" type of thing