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    YHWH Allah

    What is the Judeo-Christian-Islamic name of the Creator?

    The Holy Bible-Qur'an names YHWH Allah.

    YHWH Allah = LORD God?

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    Allah means creator but 'YHWH', what does it stand for? I can't guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearskies View Post
    Allah means creator but 'YHWH', what does it stand for? I can't guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Denke View Post
    What is the Judeo-Christian-Islamic name of the Creator?

    The Holy Bible-Qur'an names YHWH Allah.

    YHWH Allah = LORD God?
    GOD Jehovah???
    hmmm also LORD

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    Allah Akhabar!
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    yud-hey-vav-hey (translated to YHVH by non-Hebrew speakers) is supposedly God's name, and it is literally unpronounceable because there are no vowels in there (although some pronounce if "Jehovah, which is definitely inaccurate since there is no "J" sound in Hebrew). It doesn't stand for "God"... God is more like a title.

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    American Christians usually call the creator "God" Sometimes they use some of the other names... you should hear some of the silly stuff they come up with in contemporary Christian worship hymns.

    German Christians usually refer to the creator as "Jehova" (sounds just like the American one, folks, that's where the term "Jehovah" actually comes from) sometimes Zebaoth, and the occasional "Gott". There are many German names for the creator, too, but those are the usuals.

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    ^Gott is just German for God. That can refer to THE God, or just to any god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anachronistic View Post
    American Christians usually call the creator "God" Sometimes they use some of the other names... you should hear some of the silly stuff they come up with in contemporary Christian worship hymns.

    German Christians usually refer to the creator as "Jehova" (sounds just like the American one, folks, that's where the term "Jehovah" actually comes from) sometimes Zebaoth, and the occasional "Gott". There are many German names for the creator, too, but those are the usuals.
    Jehova is in fact the German translation of the Hebrew. Isn't "J" in German pronounced as a "y" sound? (ja?) That is the same sound as the Hebrew letter "yud". So basically, the yud-hey-vav-hey you would find in the bible was (mis)interpreted/assumed to say "Jehovah" (pronounced with a "y"), and whoever decided that J doesn't sound like Y made it into the "Jehovah" as is currently used in the Christian world.

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    ^ I was thinking along the same lines as you, shh.

    Germans took the term Jehovah from Hebrew, and they pronounce the 'J' the same (as Y).
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    Quote Originally Posted by shh! View Post
    Jehova is in fact the German translation of the Hebrew. Isn't "J" in German pronounced as a "y" sound? (ja?) That is the same sound as the Hebrew letter "yud". So basically, the yud-hey-vav-hey you would find in the bible was (mis)interpreted/assumed to say "Jehovah" (pronounced with a "y"), and whoever decided that J doesn't sound like Y made it into the "Jehovah" as is currently used in the Christian world.
    Yes, that's true about the German translation I think anyways... I might have to read up on that. By the way, I have been getting into some Yiddish scripts. Many German words apparently come from Hebrew.

    And then when the Bible was translated into English, all kinds of bad things happened.
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    The equivelent consantants would be Y-H-V-H... (and actually, the "V" can be pronounced like "oo", depending on the vowel). You can stick any vowels in there you like, and change the sound of the name, but the truth is, no one knows how to pronounce it.

    Haha - I love bible trivia.

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    I think that's kind of cool how the Jewish name doesn't have any vowels. What an original idea!

    Did you know that Jesus birthday wasn't really on December 25? If I had a nickel for every Christian that didn't know that one, I might be able to study at Cornell or wherever the hell DM goes to school!

    By the way, I know, totally off-topic, but the Jewish-folklore about Golems - very interesting to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anachronistic View Post
    Did you know that Jesus birthday wasn't really on December 25? If I had a nickel for every Christian that didn't know that one, I might be able to study at Cornell or wherever the hell DM goes to school!
    Yes, I know about the birthday.

    None of the Hebrew bible was written with vowels... The Hebrew vowel system wasn't instituted until the 8th century C.E, and it still isn't widely used except for with Diaspora Jews, who aren't fluent enough to be able to read Hebrew without them.

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    Do most of the Jews in your synagogue speak Hebrew fluently?

    When you say the Hebrew bible, do you mean the Torah?

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