So i have this kindergarden crush

[tardust]

Well i sit here i my bed and after about an hour of trying to sleep it seems useless. Saying that I feel butterflies would be an understatement, it feels more like air planes. So much in fact that I googled a forum, registered, and am now seeking advice. When I went to class today I bumped into an old friend. He is a foreign exchange student from germany, and since I lived in germany most of my life, I am one of the few people he knows. I was preparing my work for class while one of his friends came up to him who also hadnt seen him for a while, she was also an exchange student. They made small talk and I was minding my own business, didnt really bother to look up to see her or introduce myself since I was caught up in my own thing. Then she asked me what my name was, and when I looked at her my jaw nearly dropped into my lap. This girl is absolutely beautiful. Granted I have been with a lot of girls, some which where psychically much prettier, but something about this girl stunned me in aw. We discussed her modeling career and her job for a bit and the bell rang and I had to get to my calculus course. This girl had me at 'hello'. Everything from the way she dressed, talked, and carried herself amazed me. Throughout the period I was asking my buddy about this girl, shes 21 and really caught up in the club scene, it seems pretty inevitable in a city such as vegas. My ex was really into the club scene, and that relationship didnt end pretty. Hell, it doesnt help that im only turning 20 in 2 weeks, and this girl already has a year on me. And to top it off shes got a boyfriend. None of that has really settled into my mind and perhaps put things in a clearer perspective as to where I really stand, because all I know right now is that I think im falling for this girl. You know the saying "when life gives you lemons, you make lemonade"? Well... I never get lemons, more like limes that arnt nearly ripe and still bitter. (Damn, that just about sums up my relationship life.)

It feels wierd to ask a forum about this, but im in a wierd place at the moment. I usually never have a problem with girls, but this girl has managed to sweep me off my feet.

Do girls at that age who are caught up in such a scene even have interest in a youngin as myself? (lets ignore my ex, mainly because she was crazy) How can I maintain a good relationship with this girl, without coming of as a complete creep? Or as trying to invade into her relationship with her boyfriend?

[kikibrown22]

Well I think you need to be honest with yourself about what you expect from this girl. Did she give you any clear indications that she wanted anything from you (be it friendship or more)? I'm a very friendly person and guys often misinterpret the signals that I'm giving them. On top of this, she has a boyfriend - was she the one who mentioned that fact, or was it your friend? As a general rule I would say that if a girl mentions that she has a boyfriend, it's her way of politely saying she's not interested.

So to answer your questions. I'm not sure what level of professional modeling she is at, but in general (and there are exceptions) girls caught up in that scene are pretty much only interested in partying for the time being. I work in the restaurant industry and the amount of drinking, drugs, and partying that goes on blows me away. Some of them are students who lead fairly balanced lives and are working toward their futures, but a lot of them are just dying to finish their shift each night so they can go get drunk and spend the money they've made.

You're only a year or so younger than she is, so I wouldn't say that is a major obstacle.

As for maintaining a good relationship...I'm not sure what relationship you have as a base here, but if you're looking to keep this girl in your life then you need to find ways to involve her. I always tell guys to ask the girl for help with something in her field of expertise. So maybe play on the fact that she's involved in the fashion world and ask for her help shopping for clothes for yourself, or a gift for your sister, etc. Be careful not to cross the line into activities or behaviours reserved for her boyfriend though.

My question (among others) is, are you looking to eventually make this girl your girlfriend and you're just trying to work your way in slowly, or would you be happy just having her in your life as a friend?

[Petit Papillon]

Dude.she has a bf so leave this thought about being with her behind. I think other people here will agree with me that no one will help You to destroy someone's relationship. Especially if You're just "starting to falling into" this girl. come one ,there' more plenty fish in the sea,and You don't have to be exactly with this girl.Find another model who's SINGLE. Dumm gelaufen alter ;]
Greets,PP.

[Indignant]

everyone falls for a pretty girl.

[vashti]

Did SHE tell you she has a boyfriend, or did you just hear it from a friend? If you heard it from her, she isn't interested. If not, then ask her directly.

[carl1222]

Well i sit here i my bed and after about an hour of trying to sleep it seems useless. Saying that I feel butterflies would be an understatement, it feels more like air planes. So much in fact that I googled a forum, registered, and am now seeking advice. When I went to class today I bumped into an old friend. He is a foreign exchange student from germany, and since I lived in germany most of my life, I am one of the few people he knows. I was preparing my work for class while one of his friends came up to him who also hadnt seen him for a while, she was also an exchange student. They made small talk and I was minding my own business, didnt really bother to look up to see her or introduce myself since I was caught up in my own thing. Then she asked me what my name was, and when I looked at her my jaw nearly dropped into my lap. This girl is absolutely beautiful. Granted I have been with a lot of girls, some which where psychically much prettier, but something about this girl stunned me in aw. We discussed her modeling career and her job for a bit and the bell rang and I had to get to my calculus course. This girl had me at 'hello'. Everything from the way she dressed, talked, and carried herself amazed me. Throughout the period I was asking my buddy about this girl, shes 21 and really caught up in the club scene, it seems pretty inevitable in a city such as vegas. My ex was really into the club scene, and that relationship didnt end pretty. Hell, it doesnt help that im only turning 20 in 2 weeks, and this girl already has a year on me. And to top it off shes got a boyfriend. None of that has really settled into my mind and perhaps put things in a clearer perspective as to where I really stand, because all I know right now is that I think im falling for this girl. You know the saying "when life gives you lemons, you make lemonade"? Well... I never get lemons, more like limes that arnt nearly ripe and still bitter. (Damn, that just about sums up my relationship life.)

It feels wierd to ask a forum about this, but im in a wierd place at the moment. I usually never have a problem with girls, but this girl has managed to sweep me off my feet.

Do girls at that age who are caught up in such a scene even have interest in a youngin as myself? (lets ignore my ex, mainly because she was crazy) How can I maintain a good relationship with this girl, without coming of as a complete creep? Or as trying to invade into her relationship with her boyfriend?

Considering your strong reaction to this girl, what kind of a "good relationship" are you hoping to maintain with her that doesn't involve invading her relationship with her boyfriend?

I doubt that just a friendship will work for you here. You're smitten, she's taken. For your own sanity, pursue nothing.

Carl.

[tardust]

She didnt mention her boy friend, it was my buddy. With all the partying she does she still manages to pull a 4.2, so she isnt a train wreck waiting to happen.

As to what kind of relationship I was referring to, im not really sure at this point.. boys come and go, when her's goes I dont want to be stuck in the friends zone, so im a little lost as to what I should do..

[kikibrown22]

Okay so she's probably got a decent head on her shoulders. Thing is, you're assuming a lot about the nature of her relationship with her boyfriend, and about her feelings for you. What if she never breaks up with this guy. What if she does and has no interest in dating you? Do you really want to wait around for that? It will be hard to be a part of her life and not be in the friend zone. Right now it's just bad timing, so I would say you've just got to keep living your life and dating other girls. Get your friend to tell you if she does eventually break up with her boyfriend and only then should you worry about this. For now you don't really have many other options without invading into her relationship with her bf.

[vashti]

She didnt mention her boy friend, it was my buddy. With all the partying she does she still manages to pull a 4.2, so she isnt a train wreck waiting to happen.

As to what kind of relationship I was referring to, im not really sure at this point.. boys come and go, when her's goes I dont want to be stuck in the friends zone, so im a little lost as to what I should do..

Ask her directly if she has a boyfriend. if she says "yes", you tell her "you can't blame a guy for asking". If she says "no", you say "do you wanna get some coffee with me?"