Should've kept my thoughts to myself.

[Junket]

But I was somewhat discussing this with her, so I said it without thinking.

So her organization, (though not under her supervision), is starting this program for local volunteers to get on a team and compete with other teams to do service projects.

So I figured I'd go for it. Thing was, this VISTA volunteer who's running it hasn't provided many details on how this is all going to work. I don't have a lot of confidence is this chick, and I sent a bunch of questions to her about how this shit is gonna work.

In an e-mail to us she said we'll have to determine a team lead. And I was talking to my g/f about how I don't want to be team lead, but then again I don't know if I'd trust anybody else to do it. It's 4 girls and 2 guys (including myself). So my g/f said, "Well, it's not like the team lead would be doing much else besides keeping in contact with the rest of the team." to which I said, "Yeah, I guess I girl could do that well enough."

She wasn't happy with me having said that, though I can't retract that statement because it's not like I didn't mean what I said. I meant what I said, I just shouldn't have said it.

No, I don't have a lot of confidence in 20 something year old women's ability to lead. Not until proven otherwise. I've met too many idealistic airheads to trust their management skills.

Yes, I was on an AmeriCorps team that composed of several strong, independent females, but even then, our team was not the norm, so I would presume the vast majority of women are like them.

And to be really honest. Even my g/f has trouble managing people. It's been something I've been helping her struggle with this entire year. It hasn't been until recently that she actually began to take my advice to which she's gotten extremely positive results.

Ugh.

[Lipp]

Women - taking criticism personally since the dawn of mankind.

[Yggdrasil]

So my g/f said, "Well, it's not like the team lead would be doing much else besides keeping in contact with the rest of the team." to which I said, "Yeah, I guess a girl could do that well enough."

She wasn't happy with me having said that, though I can't retract that statement because it's not like I didn't mean what I said. I meant what I said, I just shouldn't have said it.

Is that exactly what you meanth to say, or did you rather mean something to the extend of: "a girl like you (your g/f in your case) could do it?"

Because one would be an insult, the other a compliment.

(hint to smoothen this out).

[IndiReloaded]

Fras, check your PM.

[Junket]

No, it wasn't even close to being a compliment.

There's nothing between the lines to read.

I rarely say things I don't mean.

[Yggdrasil]

No, it wasn't even close to being a compliment.

There's nothing between the lines to read.

I rarely say things I don't mean.

eh.. that suxx... erm.. be a man about it and apologize? then have make up sex?

I'm glad it's you and not me. I learned to keep my mouth shut (most of the time)

[Junket]

Like I said, there's nothing for me to apologize for since it wasn't directed at her, and I meant it. I just should have been more careful.

[ecojeanne]

don't you ever apologise to keep the peace?

[Yggdrasil]

Like I said, there's nothing for me to apologize for since it wasn't directed at her, and I meant it. I just should have been more careful.

Well maybe you could tell her it wasn't directed at her, which brings me back to my original post, maybe what you said (the way you said it) and what you actualy meanth, or what you tried to express, were two totaly different things?

I guess what I am trying to say is: why don't you talk it out before some form of resentment sets in about this?

[Junket]

don't you ever apologise to keep the peace?

I never apologize unless I mean it.

[Sonrisa]

why do most men have issues with apoligizing?

not about this situation. i don't see anything wrong with you stating your opinion, especially to someone close to you.

i thought that she was long gone by the way. are you kids still together?

[Yggdrasil]

why do most men have issues with apoligizing?

I'm sorry, I really am. I didn't forget it. Honest... I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD.

[Junket]

Yes, I'm still with her.

But I don't have an issue apologizing. Yeah it can suck to admit I'm wrong sometimes, but in the long run it's going to mean I'm gonna get sex.

Sex is one of the few times I can think "big picture".

[Sonrisa]

you deserve more credit than i give you.

[Junket]

you deserve more credit than i give you.

Well, that shouldn't be hard considering you don't give me any credit.

In any case, I know I can come off as an asshole, or a jerk.

It's really not that different in real life, so don't think I'm putting up some kind of front.

It's too bad I can't actually ban people I meet on the street, though...