State of Arizona Passes Law to Check Immigration Status

[IndiReloaded]

OK then, that sounds great!

How about Canada makes legal immigration available to all the Mexicans illegally coming here to the US?

Or do you take almost exclusively privileged foreigners who already have degrees or are planning on attending college?

Are you joking? Haven't you been to visit Toronto... little India, I mean? Here in Hongcouver, we have load of immigrants. Well, the name says it all. I think I read someplace that caucasians will be the visible minority here in under 10 years.

Not too many Mexicans, tho. Maybe they find it too cold here.

[IndiReloaded]

Bah, Toronto isn't Canada. They'd like to think so, tho:

[Gigabitch]

Mexicans aren't the only illegal immigrants here. In the southwest, sure, but in general, America has a huge number of illegal Chinese immigrants as well. Are we going to start pulling them over too?

[misombra]

i've decided i'm going to start hating swedish illegal immigrants. those fukers are ALWAYS causing problems.

[Gigabitch]

i've decided i'm going to start hating swedish illegal immigrants. those fukers are ALWAYS causing problems.

No kidding, with their yodeling and bland food. Damn the Swedes!

[Lovable]

Offer the illegal immigrants a chance at education. Learn English, get a degree (with the possibility of grants and zero/low interest loans) and you become a citizen. Otherwise you're shipped out.

Now you can't say we're a bunch of heartless bastards. We've given them a chance. Most won't do it. Those who do will become valuable members of society.

We can pay for it by dropping the ridiculous war on drugs and emptying our prisons of those who should never have been there in the first place

This is a good idea, but only in theory.

A good portion of illegal mexicans their bodies are here, but their hearts are in their homeland only. They send money home to other family & don't really care to be part of anything here in the states. Their sole purpose is to get our money & live like kings back in Mexico.

So really how many would partake of your idea if this was put to the illegals?

[Sonrisa]

This is a good idea, but only in theory.

A good portion of illegal mexicans their bodies are here, but their hearts are in their homeland only. They send money home to other family & don't really care to be part of anything here in the states. Their sole purpose is to get our money & live like kings back in Mexico.

So really how many would partake of your idea if this was put to the illegals?

ha ha ha, take YOUR MONEY? how? by doing work that you won't do?

[misombra]

This is a good idea, but only in theory.

A good portion of illegal mexicans their bodies are here, but their hearts are in their homeland only. They send money home to other family & don't really care to be part of anything here in the states. Their sole purpose is to get our money & live like kings back in Mexico.

So really how many would partake of your idea if this was put to the illegals?

those "illegals" work their asses off for not very much money and i guarantee you they do not live like kings in mexico. that money goes for basic survival most of the time.

the reason this country has done so well economically is because those people are willing to come over and do all this work for what for little they get. everybody who lives in the u.s. should thank their lucky stars for mexican immigrants.

also, there's a lot of legal mexican immigrants who's hearts are in mexico as well. did you know that the entire western part of the united states was one with mexico not so long ago?

[Sonrisa]

so if I send money to Russia am I in the same shoes...talking about Russia where's Mishanya?

[Junket]

ha ha ha, take YOUR MONEY? how? by doing work that you won't do?

This is the most ridiculous statement that I hear over and over again.

It's not that Americans won't do the work.

It's that Americans won't do the work for the shit pay the contractors can get illegals to do it for.

Like I said, you can't comprehend this because you don't have illegals walking into your office in scrubs taking your co-worker's jobs for less pay and no benefits.

[Sonrisa]

This is the most ridiculous statement that I hear over and over again.

It's not that Americans won't do the work.

It's that Americans won't do the work for the shit pay the contractors can get illegals to do it for.

Like I said, you can't comprehend this because you don't have illegals walking into your office in scrubs taking your co-worker's jobs for less pay and no benefits.

what? I don't get your point, Fras.

[Junket]

what? I don't get your point, Fras.

How can you not get my point?

What if someone less skilled replaced you for half the pay you get, with no benefits?

How are you supposed to compete with that?

the reason this country has done so well economically is because those people are willing to come over and do all this work for what for little they get. everybody who lives in the u.s. should thank their lucky stars for mexican immigrants.

So what you're saying is we should be glad they've been kept illegal, because if they were made citizens, they would actually have rights, and therefore demand higher pay.

I see what you're saying, so if we can keep the status quo, we'll be better off.

If we kick them out, contractors will be forced to pay American citizens properly.

If we legalize them, contractors will be forced to pay...American citizens properly.

Looks like it's a lose-lose. In the end the American people will end up paying...more money to have their grass cut.

[Sonrisa]

How can you not get my point?

What if someone less skilled replaced you for half the pay you get, with no benefits?

How are you supposed to compete with that?

keywords are LESS SKILLED. they will never replace anyone for someone less skilled. they would rather pay more but also have a better return.

[Junket]

keywords are LESS SKILLED. they will never replace anyone for someone less skilled. they would rather pay more but also have a better return.

Uh, yeah they will, especially if they are paying LESS.

Trust me, after working 2 years with these guys, the only consistent value I see in them is just how cheap they are.

In any case, all you're saying is that you do in fact want to keep illegals here, illegal, so that you can afford lawn care, or dry walling, or painting, whatever.

Any action outside of the status quo only hurts the middle class.

[Sonrisa]

OMG, i am totally losing you man. do you really think that i don't have any illegal friends who do work for less?