girl I likel already has a boyfriend however another person is after her and winning

[thething555]

Ok as the title suggests their is this girl I really like. However she is currently going out with one of my few friends and if that wasn't bad enough another boy is also after her and he is currently doing really well to the point that I think he has nearly got her. I see her 3 times a week but I don't get talk to her much because 1. she has a boyfriend 2. another boy is really starting to win her hear and 3. I am just to scared as well as having noting intreasting to say to her.

Know one time I did manage to talk to her a little more in one of these days and that gave me the most amazing feeling ive felt in ages but I really just don't know what to do in order to get her to
notice me more and to take more interest in me?

Please don't say move on or leave her because in this case it really isn't going to be that easy and I will never forgive myself if I don't try.
So please, what can I do? what can I say? how can I improve my confidence more so I can be brave enough to speak to her?

Thanks in advance

[lovecoma]

Try not to be to shy around her. You'll regret not talking to her! If you can't think of anything to say to her , ask her things about herself. Show her that you are interested. Maybe you can think of things to say before you see her. The only way to win her over is to show her that you are interested, try to focus on her instead of on yourself. Try to find out what her interests are and maybe you can think of something you can do together.

[pisces25]

You must be a troll.

[thething555]

I can normally talk to her when their isn't loads of people around in a group, I mean like if their's just 3 or 4 people (preferable 3) then I can do fine however as soon as more people join I just become to shy to say hardly anything to anyone. As for topics I would like to ask her questions and have conversations with her but I just don't know what to say or even the sort of questions to ask her. Can you people please give me some advice since I still haven't had a girlfriend so I really don't know what to say or do or act etc. I am a complete noob here however I just really want to make this girl my first and only love and i'm willing to do anything?

[smackie9]

Just do the best you can. Being confident comes with experience, so why not try to chat up other girls that don't intiminate you as much. You know just use them for practise.

[Boisdevie]

I just really want to make this girl my first and only love and i'm willing to do anything?

Oh for gods sake. Grow up and get a life. First and only love? Been watching too many romantic films recently. How old are you? 12?

[thething555]

I agree, I do think it's a confidence problem I have from all my previous attempts. However I can normally talk to her while she is in a small group. The last time I talked to her was Friday and I was able to have a fair chat with her while her boyfriend was around however as soon as another group of people joined us I became alot more shy and quiet. Now, I was able to speak a little but no were near as much as before. I think I do just about have enough confidence to talk to her if I think I have something worth saying to her. So the big question is what sort of things can I talk to her about while she is in big and small groups? I know her a bit more now but when I am talking to her I don't want to give it away that I like her if you get what I mean?
Thanks

[Boisdevie]

Life can be quite complicated. So why waste your time and potentially make it far more complicated by even thinking that this might work. She has a boyfriend. She is off limits. I assume unless you live on the moon that there are lots of other potentially interesting women where you live. Ones that are single.

[HeartIsAching]

First off, it's obvious you're young. You don't want to hear it right now, but it needs to be said - you're not experiencing love, you're experiencing infatuation. It will pass with time... and that's alright, because what you're doing right now is practicing for the real thing in a few years.

Second, there's a lesson you need to learn RIGHT NOW - If she dumps a guy (or two) to be with you, she'll do it to you, too. Cheaters cheat, and people that get into serial relationships do it over and over. Even if she DID want to get with you, that alone would pretty much mark her as unwanted for GF material.

[thething555]

I'm not really that young (trust me finishing school is the best feeling ever) lol
However I made the mistake of not trying many times before so this time i'm giving it everything ive got as im starting to fear I never will since I haven't before.
But I just really need to boost my confidene and my social skills lol.

[smackie9]

Again, like I said all you have to do is chat up other girls to increase that confidence AND at the same time while you get attention from other girls it brings up your value to this girl you like. If other girls like you then this girl will want to have a piece of that action.

[thething555]

Ok thank you, next time I see her I am really going to just go for it. I have also started talking to more people as well as a few girls so lets hope all this works out
Once again thanks.

[Wakeup]

If other girls like you then this girl will want to have a piece of that action.

Seems it works both ways. She's sought after by every guy in your group it seems, Op and you're wanting a slice of her action. Why you'd want someone who is so easily influenced by other guys who are not her current boyfriend is beyond me.

I do agree that you should increase your options and work on your confidence, not with this girl though. She's going out with your friend. Whatever happened to this "Bros before Hoes" dictum most of you guys stick to?

[thething555]

I do understand where you are coming from. However she isn't that bad, I think I just worded it badly I mean she is loyal enough to her current boyfriend but she's friendly. I mean she's the sort of person you can just go and have a nice chat
with. She isn't a slag or anything like I said just really friendly and very easy to get along with. The more I talk to her and engage with her the more she talks and engages back and I think this is what the other boy is working on. He is being
friendly to her so she's friendly to him and I honestly think if i'm the same sort of character as him who is easy to get along with and has good conversations then I think I can get myself in the exact same boat as him.

Well let's hope so as that's what im currently working on lol
anyway, I will be seeing her again on Wednesday so hopefully I can give it another shot again.
Thanks and wish my the best of luck
Scott

[Wakeup]

I do understand where you are coming from. However she isn't that bad, I think I just worded it badly I mean she is loyal enough to her current boyfriend but she's friendly. I mean she's the sort of person you can just go and have a nice chat
with. She isn't a slag or anything like I said just really friendly and very easy to get along with. The more I talk to her and engage with her the more she talks and engages back and I think this is what the other boy is working on. He is being
friendly to her so she's friendly to him and I honestly think if i'm the same sort of character as him who is easy to get along with and has good conversations then I think I can get myself in the exact same boat as him.

Well let's hope so as that's what im currently working on lol
anyway, I will be seeing her again on Wednesday so hopefully I can give it another shot again.
Thanks and wish my the best of luck
Scott

Did you forget all about this?

However she is currently going out with one of my few friends

or, did you remember but you just don't care?