Connecticut Shooting Leaves 28 Dead, Including 20 Pupils

[Love'sReject]

You are horribly missing my point and your comparison is moot. Child porn != defensive weapon...

Fact is, guns can be used for defense or offense. You remove the right to carry guns, all you are doing is removing the defensive portion. Guess what? The guys you are worried about will still be carrying them. Good luck trying to reason with a psycho carrying an automatic.



Perhaps with some historical basis? When I say "story" I mean "read it in the news". So yes, it has "historical basis".

Also, most isn't "all", I'm fairly certain those who have used guns to defend themselves would tell you to shut up.



Um, people like that nut who killed 27 people?...

O rly? So regular citizens will march to a known dangerous situation with arms and take on a shooter such as today's? Gee, hm, I've NEVER seen that happen. I don't think any mob will EVER do that; vigilante justice in situations like that only further jeopardize kids. You trust militias composed of morons to shoot accurately or plan strategically? The common citizen is NOT SWAT.

As for your first argument, you missed MINE: The "eh, even if we illegalized it, we're still a buncha stupid ineffective dumb**** Americans so let's just not do anything, anyway" kind of mentality pisses me off. It's faulty logic.

Yeah, sure, all 50 annual "guns saved my life" folks would surely have such an argument at a convention for victims of gun violence

[Hotaru]

Talking to a wall? You're commenting a post about a man who just killed 27 innocent people, I'd call that a criminal you moron.

[Petit Papillon]

There were 300 policemen attending school that day?!?! :o

Should I ask why 300 policemen were spending the day at that elementary school?

HAHAHAHAHA ooooh, you want elementary school teachers to carry a gun with themselves? You're hilarious. Stop it, really...

[Petit Papillon]

Talking to a wall? You're commenting a post about a man who just killed 27 innocent people, I'd call that a criminal you moron.

And watch that mouth, I'm not insulting you. Don't forget I'm a mod and also a member of this forum. If you lack arguments, then just leave.

[Love'sReject]

Plus, you must have some scary people there, scary criminals walking around with guns... No wonder you need to protect yourself by having your own gun -_- Geez... Talking to a wall.

Well, since most crime seems to be outdoors and since most states don't allow legal carrying of arms, the defense argument fails again.
Besides, don't act like nutsos are isolated to America: you Europeans can't even play a soccer game without molotovs being thrown, or rocket launchers shooting at planes or shit like that.

[Petit Papillon]

Well, since most crime seems to be outdoors and since most states don't allow legal carrying of arms, the defense argument fails again.
Besides, don't act like nutsos are isolated to America: you Europeans can't even play a soccer game without molotovs being thrown, or rocket launchers shooting at planes or shit like that.

And you definitely don't understand the language of irony... Oh man :[

[Love'sReject]

Lol, ok, fine I'll grant you that. Irony doesn't come across as well through text.

[Petit Papillon]

Lol, ok, fine I'll grant you that. Irony doesn't come across as well through text.

You could deduce that from my earlier posts (・へ・)

[Hotaru]

For those of you too stupid to use Google:

http://www.jessicaswell.com/mt/archives/2008/04/pizza-hut-delivery-man-de.php
http://rongstad.blogspot.com/2012/04/87-year-old-man-defends-himself.html
http://www.wesh.com/Walmart-Reopens-After-Fight/-/11788876/13120110/-/bjsjxl/-/index.html#ixzz1mKM6LUlT
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2009/07/24/82-year-old-man-defends-himself-against-a-violent-home-invader/
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-07-15/news/chi-fatal-shooting-was-selfdefense-judge-rules-20110715_1_judge-rules-fatal-shooting-samuel-fullilove

LR, here is the story that "may have historical basis" - http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/01/05/young-mother-defends-self-and-baby-kills-intruder/

http://townhall.com/columnists/celiabigelow/2012/10/20/12yearold_defends_herself_with_gun_proves_need_of_ 2nd_amendment/page/full/
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/2012/22-year-old-woman-defends-herself-against-armed-home-invaders,-nbc-dfw,-dallas,-texas-101812.aspx

Like I said, if you don't want a gun, that's fine, no one who has a permit to carry will be upset if ever anything should happen to you, believe me.


I know this is a difficult concept to grasp for some of you hippies, but you're attempting to remove gun rights from the bad guys. It won't work, you'll never remove them from the people who really shouldn't have them. If you don't want to carry a gun, don't. Simple. But if a guy wants to get a permit to carry and he uses it responsibly, that's none of your business and you have no reasonable argument for why it is if he's not harming any innocent people. The guys out there who do harm others are an entirely different issue. You can say, "The world is safe" all day long, the news says otherwise.

[Love'sReject]

You could deduce that from my earlier posts (・へ・)

OK, now I retroactively just made everything I said ironic. You should've deduced that from my future posts.

[Hotaru]

And watch that mouth, I'm not insulting you. Don't forget I'm a mod and also a member of this forum. If you lack arguments, then just leave.

It seemed like you were insulting me and assuming that it was directed at me, saying "Talking to a wall" is definitely going to receive a similarly rude response. My opinion is obviously the least popular, what sort of reaction am I supposed to have to "peace and love, you are stupid"?

[Love'sReject]

For those of you too stupid to use Google:

http://www.jessicaswell.com/mt/archives/2008/04/pizza-hut-delivery-man-de.php
http://rongstad.blogspot.com/2012/04/87-year-old-man-defends-himself.html
http://www.wesh.com/Walmart-Reopens-After-Fight/-/11788876/13120110/-/bjsjxl/-/index.html#ixzz1mKM6LUlT
http://www.learnaboutguns.com/2009/07/24/82-year-old-man-defends-himself-against-a-violent-home-invader/
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-07-15/news/chi-fatal-shooting-was-selfdefense-judge-rules-20110715_1_judge-rules-fatal-shooting-samuel-fullilove

LR, here is the story that "may have historical basis" - http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/01/05/young-mother-defends-self-and-baby-kills-intruder/

http://townhall.com/columnists/celiabigelow/2012/10/20/12yearold_defends_herself_with_gun_proves_need_of_ 2nd_amendment/page/full/
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/2012/22-year-old-woman-defends-herself-against-armed-home-invaders,-nbc-dfw,-dallas,-texas-101812.aspx

Like I said, if you don't want a gun, that's fine, no one who has a permit to carry will be upset if ever anything should happen to you, believe me.


I know this is a difficult concept to grasp for some of you hippies, but you're attempting to remove gun rights from the bad guys. It won't work, you'll never remove them from the people who really shouldn't have them. If you don't want to carry a gun, don't. Simple. But if a guy wants to get a permit to carry and he uses it responsibly, that's none of your business and you have no reasonable argument for why it is if he's not harming any innocent people. The guys out there who do harm others are an entirely different issue. You can say, "The world is safe" all day long, the news says otherwise.

I am FAR from a hippie (those dirty, Thoreau-reading know-nothings are the grandfathers to the stupid indie kid of today). The fact is, there is no legitimate reason anyone SHOULD have one. I might have lacked a persuasive argument to move your obstinate mind why we should REVOKE the right, but there is no firm basis on which anyone should HAVE that right.

[Love'sReject]

It seemed like you were insulting me and assuming that it was directed at me, saying "Talking to a wall" is definitely going to receive a similarly rude response. My opinion is obviously the least popular, what sort of reaction am I supposed to have to "peace and love, you are stupid"?

Oh, apparently, he was being "ironic"...in ways that certainly don't effectively convey irony. -_-

[Petit Papillon]

Oh boy... Where am I...

[Hotaru]

I am FAR from a hippie (those dirty, Thoreau-reading know-nothings are the grandfathers to the stupid indie kid of today). The fact is, there is no legitimate reason anyone SHOULD have one. I might have lacked a persuasive argument to move your obstinate mind why we should REVOKE the right, but there is no firm basis on which anyone should HAVE that right.

I just gave you a reason. Once guns came onto the scene, everything changed. People keep saying, "The world is getting worse". No, weapons got better. The problem is who has them. You will never get them off the streets, ever. People who have a permit to carry and aren't insane feel safer having them. My Dad has a permit to carry, so did my Grandmother after my Grandfather died and she was left alone. If you can't think of a reason to take them, that's all there needs to be said.