Males are more shallow as females, they said...

[Imnotdrunk]

...That's entirely false, I said.

It's somehow generally accepted, or maybe better said, enforced idea, that males are a lot more shallow, as females are. My argument to this is, well, that's a complete and utter BS. Females are worse, they just hide it better (or not any more?), probably due to sl#t shaming. Anyway here is a list of random "whys":

-Females want perfect guy. They are craving that guy and they would sell their soul to get one. A perfect guy, remember this. Probably you have heard this one million times said by girls, yet I rarely hear a guy craving for perfect girl.

-when girls just see a perfect guy, all sh#t can happen. She'll have him in mind, she won't be able to sleep, she'll think about him for days, she'll stalk him, she'll get a job near at him so she can get in contact (I saw this on my own eyes), she'll be HEAVILY EMOTIONAL and similar. Seriously, when girls JUST SEES a perfect guy her whole world can sink. Females can get CRAZY when they just get a sense a bit of smell of good genes.

-girls get quickly EMOTIONAL, IRRATIONAL, confused and even nervous when they see, or better, get involved with an attractive guy, and when she's in that state, she can be easily controlled by such a dude. She may not speak about that that guy, but something will hit her hard and make her look, like she took some drugs or something - she'll get that "stoned" face.She'll do about anything (stupid) to get him.Guy doesn't get emotional, when he sees a good girl, he throws some comment "damn' she's hot" and continue drinking beer with his friend. You see the difference?Males - just some talk and nothing will happens, no emotions or some strange physiological and physical body state (except plausible erection), even if he tried something since he would be rejected, females on the other side get totally different behaviour, which is more based on doing something and feelings.

-when guy sees a girl that's somehow appealing, he says "I need something like her". When girl sees a perfect guy, she says "I NEED HIM". You see the difference?Him, that one, at whatever it costs, spreading legs on first day included, doesn't matter if he already has girlfriend.

-females, from biological perspective, have less shots for reproduction. She gets pregnant and then she's locked for 9 months and she has limited number of eggs too. Because of this she needs to get as good genes as possible, which means she's going to be picky as hell. She needs such genes that offer best survival chances for baby and such father that is the best for protecting baby. Usually this translates to handsome (=health, indication of testosterone), tall (=protection, survival, testosterone), macho (protection, survival, testosterone) and dark (=health, indication of testosterone). Now you see why girls massively screw this type of guy. A guy with such profile is alpha male and females instinctively seek for alpha male. Males on the other side have infinite of sperm, so all what they have to do is to find acceptable looking female, do her and go to next one, to spread genes as much as possible. No need to be picky for males.

-tall, dark and handsome. This is what most females are after. Have you heard similar saying for females from males?Something like short, blonde and beautiful?I guess not, that's because it doesn't exist. Males have very dispersed taste for females, they only instinctively search for female who's healthy enough, which translates to not fat and not ugly, otherwise everything is acceptable. You can see that because 90% of guys are ready to have a sex with most girls, while girls generally spread legs for only top 10% guys

-when girl finds a perfect looking guy, she'll say he's perfect and she'll find 10000000 reasons why he's perfect, none of them will mention looks.

-females have VERY, VERY common taste for males, just because of biological reasons mentioned above - tall, dark and handsome

-sometimes you can see small girls who can barely walk, how they just stop and stare in that dark, handsome guy. With her age, she can smell loads of testosterone. Pretty scary.

-females always try to be in company of hot guys. You can see a hot guy and few girls around, like he's their pimp

-females act, think, feel and function totally different with hot guys than with average male population. Never seen such a difference of behaviour at males, never.

-This one is biggie: There is a lot more of beautiful and attractive girls, than handsome and attractive guys. Attractive guys are rare as gold comparing to females and this is one more reason why attractive guys "are allowed" to be boring, jerks, stupid, douchebags and yet majority of girls still want them. Again, an attractive guy is valued lot more than an attractive female.

-girls talk one thing, think second on do something totally third, without they being aware of that. Applying this rule to "looks doesn't mater to me", as she said, can give some feeling what real truth may be - that looks indeed and most matters to her, without her even being aware of that.

- 80-90% of females had, is having or will have a sex with only 10% of male population. Top 10% are best looking guys and many of them are douchebags, jerks, unintelligent, boring to be with...yet girls end in their bed.

-You can see girls spreading legs for hot guys, even if they suck as a person

-females talk a lot and they talk a lot about guys. But not any guys, the good looking, attractive, hot guys, everything else isn't mentioned. When they talk about them, they just talk how they look and optionally what jerks and players they are (yet they want them). 90% of guys simply aren't seen by girls.

-Some girls openly told me (some drunk, others not) that they rather date a hot guy who's jerk than everything else, even if they're smart or funny or whatever...

-Supply and demand: And average girls can pick guys, a very good looking can picky for horde of guys. An average looking male can not pick, only top 10% guys can pick. So most girls can pick and most guy can not pick, just by this you can expect who's going to be more superficial and shallow. Answer is females, because they are in position to have a choice. One more reason girls are shallow, besides their perfect genes search.

-Who is more arrogant, douchey, makes fun of , makes fool of opposite gender...?Guys or girls?Girls, obviously. Why?Because they can be.They have plenty of guys to choose from, so they can afford to do that. There will be always more and better guys to come, and even if that was not the case, the same guy who was played by girl, will go back to her, because he has no choices. Again, supply and demand.

-girl will find and rationalise (find excuse) or simply justify why to be with an attractive guy, even if he doesn't have personality qualities or he doesn't have any special personality quality. You can hear all the time girls saying "but he's a good guy inside" or "he deserves one more chance (or 10 of them)", "he opened a door for me", ... and so on. They'll always came up with something just to be with hot dude or at least exploit his body. Mostly, girls are saying those things without realising how much rationalisations and justifications they actually make. That's because female's brain actions and perceptions ARE heavily biased by attractive guys looks.

-females are incredibly biased by attractive guys. If a hot guy grabs her for a## or breast, she'll react with fake response or even smile. Let average guy do that, he may get in jail for that.

-females can go on concerts just to see some hot rock-star guy with social status there. If she has a chance to get in his pants she'll do it without thinking, no matter what's the price (like being banged by series of rockstar friends and finally not making it trough selection). Throwing bras with phone numbers and pictures on the stage, screaming like crazy, crying and loosing consciousness tells something.

-females put posters on walls, posters with their perfect guys on it

- Females may say that males are more shallow because they walk with porn magazines in their hands and porn videos in their backpacks, but that doesn't say much. This may be because 90% of guys are the who can't get sex just like that, as said, they are being picked from all the competition, so they don't pick as females do. If females were in position of being picked and if they had in their genes the need of constant reproduction, well they would probably walk around with porn magazines and videos too.

[dickriculous]

[fearoflove]

I don't agree. I am not shallow. I ****ed a guy who is kind of ugly but is so ridiculously good in bed. I would do it again and again.

[searock]

Whooooaaa too many stereotypes all in one place, I can't even.

[pcmaster]

-females are incredibly biased by attractive guys. If a hot guy grabs her for a## or breast, she'll react with fake response or even smile. Let average guy do that, he may get in jail for that.

Average guy

[HeartIsAching]

Troll .

[Imnotdrunk]

Average guy

Not sure if trolling, but that guy IS attractive. Tall, dark, handsome, well built, big hands, tattoos all over the place ...loads of masculinity right there.

[pcmaster]

For me he looks below average. Thin lips and stupid grin on the face. Well dressed yes but theres nothing in his posture or face that looks alpha to me.

[oxytocinbite]

I am not shallow, I don't date assholes because they are attractive. My bf is very attractive to me but he has an amazing personality.

[Imnotdrunk]

I am not shallow, I don't date assholes because they are attractive. My bf is very attractive to me but he has an amazing personality.

Because your boyfriend is very attractive, you perceive him as a person with good personality, but in reality he might be nothing special. In physiology, this is called Halo effect and it's just biased perception of attractive people. Think about how attractive people most of time tend to be humorous, intelligent, confident, trustworthy, interesting, good personality and in dating world, all this personality exaggeration or just false perception gets worse.

[searock]

Imnotdrunk, I've dated and have been attracted to guys that were far from conventionally attractive, but were attractive (very) to me. It's all subjective. If anything, I actually have a bit of a prejudice against very conventionally attractive people, because lots of them tend to believe they are somewhat better than other people just because of the fact that they fit into the current "attractive" stereotype. Of course there are loads of amazing conventionally attractive persons, but just to let you know that your generalization regarding women is very false. I am a woman btw.

Sidenote: what really makes a person attractive is their confidence (NOT cockiness).

[bluesummer]

Imnotdrunk, I've dated and have been attracted to guys that were far from conventionally attractive, but were attractive (very) to me. It's all subjective. If anything, I actually have a bit of a prejudice against very conventionally attractive people, because lots of them tend to believe they are somewhat better than other people just because of the fact that they fit into the current "attractive" stereotype. Of course there are loads of amazing conventionally attractive persons, but just to let you know that your generalization regarding women is very false. I am a woman btw.

Sidenote: what really makes a person attractive is their confidence (NOT cockiness).

I was going to say exactly the same thing, but you beat me to it. Awesome.

As for tall, dark and handsome......I've dated tall.....I've dated dark....I've dated handsome. Strangely never all three or even two of those traits at one time!

[somehelp4me]

I don't think it is a gender thing:shallowness, it is a character thing.

[MrsDarcy]

I sense a lot of prejudice in this thread. Most of the things you said apply to men too, actually no....ALL of them. All those things you listed, guys do it too. In my experience, I've seen beautiful women dating ''average'' or even ''ugly'' guys more often than an attractive guy dating an ''ugly'' girl. (I believe beauty is in the eye of the beholder so that's why I used the '' '' ). Anyways, what's wrong with being attracted to someone? It's only wrong when someone starts acting out those examples that you listed...for instance, I would never allow a guy to grab my butt, attractive or not. I would not date someone just because he's handsome. Attraction is just what bring people together, but what sticks people together is attitude, personality, moral values, beliefs. I think it's a big lie when women deny they like a good looking man, I mean we are human, but in my opinion, attitude and personality is what makes a guy stay attractive in my eyes.

[michelle23]

Lol at this. I dont even know where to start.. all ill say is in my experience the rare guys you speak of-the really attractive ones are generally not assholes. Its usually the ugly ones with the scrunched up face and a chin like popeye who are the assholes...

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