He made me cry for the first time yesterday

[Indignant]

may i ask how old you are, Laila?

[lahnnabell]

How did you get through an evening of camping without finding a bathroom that was only 20 feet away?

Also, lhanna - maybe my car is weird, but you don't need a key to get out of it.

Haha, I thought the same thing. "Who needs a key to open the door from the inside?"

[Mish]

She probably wanted the key in case the door gets locked and the guy can't be bothered to wake up to let her back in

[rain.man]

Hell, most of my girlfriends would have went with me in search of a bathroom. It would have been an adventure.

At the risk of being sexist, this is why camping is typically a guy thing. Once the sun goes down, you don't go beyond eyesight of camp. Two people wandering around at night with a flashlight in some misguided "adventure" is about as smart as smearing yourself with blood in the middle of bear country. At night you find the closest bush and pee there. If there's no bush, you walk a few yards away and pee in the dirt.

His methods sucked, but not sending you off in the middle of the night was actually pretty damn smart. Even going with you would have been stupid on his part. I can remember quite a few times out camping when someone went off at night saying "oh, don't worry, I know where <bathroom/car/etc> is", and we had to waste half a day finding them the next morning. We once found a guy over a mile from camp lost in the middle of the woods. He went off to find a bathroom that was 200 yards down a marked trail.

Wandering around at night with you is not protective, it is irresponsible. He should have pointed you to the nearest bush.

[LailaK]

if I were you, I would've called his friend to find out where exactly you are going and what sort of accomodations are there. also i would research what items are necessary to take with you on the trip.

if the situation already happened, i don't think i would ever have the guy just sit there being pissed, i would turn my own bad mood into a joke, blame everything on PMS or whatever else and just try to have a good time.

females are able to lighten up situations much quicker or better than guys do. guys have their manly pride and god knows what else that makes them hold grudges much longer than we do.

Funny. That's exactly what my boyfriend said. He said that if I was so concerned with preparations I should have emailed his friend who was planning the event for more info. Silly me. I thought asking my boyfriend to get info from HIS friend was enough. -_-

If he doesn't give a f*ck about me or my feelings I fail to see why I should give a f*ck about his manly pride.

And we were sleeping in the back of his SUV on a blown up mattress. The doors were blocked and the only way out was to pop the hatch of the back with the button on his key.

And no, I'm not used to camping. I fail to see how I'm a horrible girlfriend for being freaked out about peeing in the bushes for the first time at night. Not all of us are goddesses of the f*cking outdoors.

[Indignant]

If he doesn't give a f*ck about me or my feelings I fail to see why I should give a f*ck about his manly pride.

it's not just him though. i am afraid that this is something that most of us have to face in our lifetime. unless you date someone like Misha. but he is one in a million.

[nerdy_guy]

Haha, I thought the same thing. "Who needs a key to open the door from the inside?"

Maybe it's a new model armored transport.

[lahnnabell]

At the risk of being sexist, this is why camping is typically a guy thing.

Apparently this dude isn't much of a camper either if he "hates" tents, i.e. he sucks at pitching one. And forgets a flashlight. Seriously? Camping with no flashlight?

[Indignant]

Apparently this dude isn't much of a camper either if he "hates" tents, i.e. he sucks at pitching one. And forgets a flashlight. Seriously? Camping with no flashlight?

good point.

[LailaK]

it's not just him though. i am afraid that this is something that most of have to face in our lifetime. unless you date someone like Misha. but he is one in a million.

If he cared about my feelings I would care about his pride. In fact, for most of our relationship I went out of my way not to step on his pride.

[lahnnabell]

And no, I'm not used to camping. I fail to see how I'm a horrible girlfriend for being freaked out about peeing in the bushes for the first time at night. Not all of us are goddesses of the f*cking outdoors.

No one is saying you're a horrible girlfriend for not being Amazon Queen.

[nerdy_guy]

Apparently this dude isn't much of a camper either if he "hates" tents, i.e. he sucks at pitching one. And forgets a flashlight. Seriously? Camping with no flashlight?

Apparently, all he needed to know was where the toilet was and he's all set. It must be some sort of a camper pride so as not to tell your girlfriend where it is located.

[LailaK]

Apparently this dude isn't much of a camper either if he "hates" tents, i.e. he sucks at pitching one. And forgets a flashlight. Seriously? Camping with no flashlight?

He said he was most upset with me because he felt like I expected him to be prepared when he was just along for the ride (to hang with his friends). That's his personality. He doesn't want to be team lead. He doesn't want to plan ahead and he felt like I was pressuring him to be that guy. Maybe I was. Take me to a hotel, I know what I'm doing. Drop me off in the woods and I'm clueless as to what to do or expect. That would have been a moment where I would have liked to learn from someone more knowledgeable.

Literally, all he brought was the mattress and a change of pants. He told me to grab pillows and a blanket. I've only been camping once and I was so little I don't remember much. I brought my toothbrush, wet wipes, a sweatshirt, deodorant and was sure to wear glasses instead of contacts.

I should have brought breakfast because he didn't bring that either.

[rain.man]

Apparently this dude isn't much of a camper either if he "hates" tents, i.e. he sucks at pitching one. And forgets a flashlight. Seriously? Camping with no flashlight?

Considering how he handled everything with Laila, he doesn't sound like much of a guy to me at all *grin*

And yeah, who the **** goes camping without a flashlight? Hell, what kind of guy doesn't carry a flashlight in his car? Doesn't anyone carry emergency kits in their cars anymore?

[lahnnabell]

Apparently, all he needed to know was where the toilet was and he's all set. It must be some sort of a camper pride so as not to tell your girlfriend where it is located.

I really love camping and hiking, so I kind of hate it when people say they're going camping only to inflate an air mattress and sleep in their cars. Really? I kinda wish my boyfriend were more into nature-y stuff like hiking, but I'm afraid his knee probably won't allow him to do the type of hiking I like without issues.