Here we go again, still in love with my best female friend!

[Girlsgonewild]

Sometimes it almost feels like were in a relationship... I dont know why, cant explain it. A friend of mine told me that if we were to get together nobody would notice anything except we dont make out with other people and have sex with each other.

No matter how were interacting with eachother were not gonna be anything else but friends before we kissed->have sex. Until that point we are just friends.

If you do want a relationship but want sex first, you're still doing it wrong.

I cant really figure this sentence out.. what? What kind of relationships are you in where you dont kiss and have sex? We already touch each other and so on so I want to take it further...

I would really appreciate some constructive critisiscm on the other hand where you can point out what I should try to do and not try to do, instead of just making a point of that Im making it wrong... Thanks

[MerryH]

I cant really figure this sentence out.. what? What kind of relationships are you in where you dont kiss and have sex? We already touch each other and so on so I want to take it further...

I would really appreciate some constructive critisiscm on the other hand where you can point out what I should try to do and not try to do, instead of just making a point of that Im making it wrong... Thanks

What I meant was, if you want a relationship with her, you should be trying to date her, not just sleep with her. Sleeping with her doesn't automatically make her your girlfriend. You'd still have to do the whole dating thing. So if that's what you want, flirt with her, ask her out on some romantic dates, make a move. Do something that will give her the opportunity to flatly reject you so that at least you'll know for sure, and you can move on if she doesn't want you.

[Girlsgonewild]

But we dont need to do the date thing. Thats how I feel about it. Okay, just to explain. On her birthday, for her birthday present (whats funny is that all the guys that was on her birthday party was her "friends" that has hit on her and tried to take it further) I just said "so Ill take you for dinner or lunch as your birthday present", she rejected it and said "nooo you dont have to, we dont have any money (students) whatever." She rejected me. Not to long after that she was "soo why dont you buy me dinner " and was all flirty about it. I thought that everything cant be on her terms and said "no you missed your shot, plus Im saving money I dont have to spend on your birthday present."

Shes like this. All the time.

[MerryH]

So you're saying you don't need to do the date thing because you've tried that and she's rejected you, so you have to try something else. And that something else is to have sex with her? If she's rejected you on simple dates, what makes you think she's going to have sex with you? I don't really understand your logic.

I also don't understand why you would reject her when she asked you out. Because you were trying to act tough as if you're not going to let her manipulate you? Newsflash: You ARE being manipulated by her. Also the way that you turned down her dinner invitation was kind of nasty. Like you were trying to punish her for not saying yes to your initial invitation. I guess you're pretty manipulative, too.

[Girlsgonewild]

No, not really, I guess your right. Sometimes we go out and eat and whatever just the two of us, feels kinda like dating even tho were just friends.

Well, cause one minute shes in and next shes out, like borderline behaviour. So I guess its just a big tease thing after all, hard to tell when your in love. Also hard when she sends out signals like she does but thats just how she is I guess...

Yeah, thats exactly right. It cant all be on her terms. So your saying you dont understand why I rejected her when she asked me out...... would you wanna be a door mat? I mean she cant get away with anything.

[Girlsgonewild]

So if that's what you want, flirt with her, ask her out on some romantic dates, make a move. Do something that will give her the opportunity to flatly reject you so that at least you'll know for sure, and you can move on if she doesn't want you.

I also don't understand why you would reject her when she asked you out.

Yeah so......

Also, It's egoistic and selfish behaviour in my book, but maybe thats just me. Would you wanna accept everything on somebody elses terms, everytime? That doesnt fly, sorry. She has to make up her mind. The back n forth thing about the dinner thing is her in a nutshell, im tired of it.

[girl68]

Its like you don't like what merry says and I say the exact opposite and you don't like that either....

[MerryH]

Would you wanna accept everything on somebody elses terms, everytime?

If I'm interested in someone and they ask me out, I'm not going to reject them. But I also wouldn't hang around trying again and again with someone who clearly doesn't want me, like you're doing.

[Girlsgonewild]

Hehe, yeah you wont reject them, and than later on you will try to make the person ask you out again and maybe mention that the thought of that person ****ing you makes you horny? Do you or your friends act like this? Just sayin. Thats not logic behaviour for me but maybe it is for you Merry. And when the person gives you signals that she likes you, you blame me for trying? And when Im not trying the person is trying something with me? Excuse me but what are you "blaming" me for?

[Girlsgonewild]

Hehe, yeah you wont reject them, and than later on you will try to make the person ask you out again and maybe mention that the thought of that person ****ing you makes you horny? Do you or your friends act like this? Just sayin. Thats not logic behaviour for me but maybe it is for you Merry. And when the person gives you signals that she likes you, you blame me for trying? And when Im not trying the person is trying something with me? Excuse me but what are you "blaming" me for?

Wrote this in a feeling of despair and I have come to terms that I just have to accept that SHE IS LIKE THIS. This is her and I cant take it to personally. Im not gonna cut her loose totally but just take a few steps back. Tell myself that the illusion that I have built up about her as some kind of godess is nothing but a illusion. Afterwhile I assume I will start FEELING like that aswell.

Shes not ready/doesnt want anything and I guess thats fine. I cant blaim her for that. Ill just treat her as a friend and try to accept what people have written. If she really wants something in the future shell have to proove thats shes wearthy of being with me

[MerryH]

Hehe, yeah you wont reject them, and than later on you will try to make the person ask you out again and maybe mention that the thought of that person ****ing you makes you horny? Do you or your friends act like this? Just sayin. Thats not logic behaviour for me but maybe it is for you Merry. And when the person gives you signals that she likes you, you blame me for trying? And when Im not trying the person is trying something with me? Excuse me but what are you "blaming" me for?

I don't even know what you're attempting to say here, but I'm pretty sure you're trying to be insulting or something. You've completely misunderstood what I've said, and I don't care to correct you anymore because you're just going to continue to be a whiny bitch about it.

[Girlsgonewild]

If I'm interested in someone and they ask me out, I'm not going to reject them.

I read this as she being the one interested, and her rejecting me when I asked her out proved your point that shes not interested... Sry if I mistunderstood

But I also wouldn't hang around trying again and again with someone who clearly doesn't want me, like you're doing.

Read this as you mocking me for trying to hook up with her. This made me confused since I dont think it's very clear that she doesnt want me.

Language barriers. Anyhow, what do I do when shell start to touch me in these ways I described? Just take her hand away and laugh about it like "what are you doing friend?" or just ask her straight out whats up with her behaviour?