Update on my situation....

[theotherguy0123]

He's a man, cut him some slack lol

[football]

Haha yea, its was definatly just a joke, we are friends so I'm taking things slow and expecting that in return. We ended up hanging out at her house tonight from about 7:00 till about 2:00 in the morning. It sure as hell didn't seem like 7 hours, time flew by. The day went well considering some stuff that happend.

She was pretty tired when I got there, from work and all. We ended up heating some leftover christmas dinner since they have a ton of food. We played pool, which was cool too. I'm a farily muscular guy, and I was just leaning up against the pool table and she kinda grabbed my arm which was flexed because I was using it to lean up against the table and her eyes just opened wide , she must not of realized I have some guns lol

When her parents got back, she kinda got into a bad mood, they made some comments and did some stuff the past couple of days and she was kinda angry, I could just see the anger pour out when she was shooting in pool. I comforted her a little, put my arm around her a bit and kinda rubed her shoulders. I was going for the I really care about you, but dont want you to tell me everything so I get stuck in the friends zone. For about half an hour, she was kinda mad and didn't flirt too much. We played pool till about 10:30 at which point I was supposed to leave...her parents apparently didn't want me over late. However we ended up chilling on the couch for the rest of the time. We watched tv, she put it on espn because she knows I love sports, and then I just began to teach her all the different college and pro sports teams, joking around quzzing her things like that. I'm really into sports and she's making a big effort to learn about it. She was cuddled up in her blanket I was just sitting next to her, with my hand kinda on her thigh some of the time. I've never been big into touching, but I'm starting to do this a lot more, so I'm slowly incorporating this during the whole time we were together. She knows I'm not a huge touchy feely kinda guy, but I'm trying to show her I can be. I ended up leaving about 20 min after her mom came out and was kinda pissed that I was still there...I just didn't realize how late it really was. The leaving was good though, she seemed like she wanted me to stay, but we both agreed I should get going. I gave her a hug as I left and I think it was a good night, had a lot of fun.

At about 12:30ish she gets a call from her ex who tells her that his bro (who she has never met) just died in a car accident last night. She's not extremely close to the kid anymore, but it kinda dampened the mood, I felt bad for the kid. They talked for like 10 min, then we kinda resumed what we were doing on the couch.

Nothing huge happend, but more touching, great great eye contact between us. So far so good, but it doesn't mean I'm golden yet.

[theotherguy0123]

it doesnt mean golden yet, but ur getting there, good job man, im happy for you.

[Sum1]

Hell yeah great job, shit I wanna marry this girl! LOL! Where are you I'm coming in for the interception! JK lol! Naw good stuff, the touchy stuff is cool because it works as a measurement of how far you can go. Set a nice baseline, the thigh is a real good place to start lol and move from there. That was real cool that she was letting you talk to her about sports but REMEMBER you MUST RECIPROICATE! You must ask her about things that you're really not interested in that she knows about, or maybe things that you are interested in lol. BELIEVE me I've learned a LOT about Fasion from girls, its kind of interesting lol. So now I can chill and make fun of girls at the bar that are fashion no-no's! BNut anyways just keep it up and make sure to ask her about things she knows. So when's the next date?

[football]

You made some really good points. She used to be really big into 4 wheeling...untill she realized she heading for trouble she talked to me about her many near death stories, they were pretty interesting lol So I kept asking her stuff about that. I do need to find more things she interested in...I know she loves shoes and clothes lol. I dont know how to strike up a huge converstaion about that. When we were playing pool she put on Dave Matthews Band, thats her favorite band, I like them as well too, she would be singing as she's playing. I'm making an attempt right now as we speak to learn the words to all their songs so i can join in, especially because some of the songs are about kissing, touching things like that. So I might be able to try help hint at her by singing along during some of those parts of the song.

I'm not sure when the next date is, i really prefer us just hanging out like that at her house. I'm thinking about giving her a call tomorrow after she gets off work. I prefer to hang out at her house, my parents can be disturbing, whats the best way to kinda invite myself over to her house, rather than having her come over here? IF she's busy I'll see what she's up to for New Years Eve, she said she didn't have any plans as far as she knew when I asked her a couple of weeks ago, so we will see, just going to play it by ear.

[Sum1]

Yeah learning the words would help. lol. I had a girl who was way into Dave and I tried my hardest to learn the songs but I couldnt, only two, Crasha nd Satellite lol. A good way for you to get to her place... Hmmmm... Ok, you could call her and strike up a convo about movies, ask her her favorites etc. then you could talk about how you prefer to watch movies at home etc. Then you could follow up with "Damn, now I feel like watching a movie!" and I'm sure she'll agree. Then ask her if she would like to go rent a movie and watch it her place. Thats a good easy way to kinda get in there. LMK what you think, it works for me LMK though.

[football]

Yeah learning the words would help. lol. I had a girl who was way into Dave and I tried my hardest to learn the songs but I couldnt, only two, Crasha nd Satellite lol. A good way for you to get to her place... Hmmmm... Ok, you could call her and strike up a convo about movies, ask her her favorites etc. then you could talk about how you prefer to watch movies at home etc. Then you could follow up with "Damn, now I feel like watching a movie!" and I'm sure she'll agree. Then ask her if she would like to go rent a movie and watch it her place. Thats a good easy way to kinda get in there. LMK what you think, it works for me LMK though.

Yea good idea, I'm going to try that next time I give her a call, probably tomorrow. Yea the Dave Matthews songs are hard to memorize, the beats to most of the songs sound the same...lol

Whats the BEST way to cuddle on a couch together when starting up a movie, it's much much much easier in a bed because it's bigger. Should I lay there first and hope she kinda lays next to me, or vice versa.

[Sum1]

NO WAY! ARE YOU CRAZY!? lol, DO NOT LAY ANYWHERE! Try to sit down first to gauge where she wants to sit, and hope and pray to god she sits right next to you. Thats when you start with the thigh thing again. Then slowly move your arm and put it around her, if she wants to cuddle she will fall into a more comfortable position and she'll basically be laying on you while your sitting down. At this point you can play with her hair (not like a maniac though) or massage her face (make sure your hands are clean. BUT make sure you don't get offended if she does not want to, remember, you are at her parents house, who I'm sure are aware that your are trying to sexually molest their child! JK Bro, but you know the parents will be there so she may not be that comfortable yet, but don't let it discourage you and give it a shot.

[football]

Yea not laying down seems like a much better idea at first lol

If we end up going to her house to watch a movie, she has a quest house that you have to leave the house, walk about 15-20 feet to get to the guest house. It's like a mini apartment, living room, spare bedroom and kitchen. If I can somehow get us to watch the movie in there it would be great for the comfort level and not having to worry about the parents. I just dont want her to think I want to go there so I can jump on top of her or anything, because thats not my intention lol

[Sum1]

Yeah it sounds liek a good idea in theory but if anything her parent will be even more suspicious if you guys go there. Most likely they would approach you guys and tell you to come back into the house which would be VERY AWKWARD! But who knows, maybe her parents are really cool and don't really give a shit, but if you have the slightest idea they are not (which they dont seem to be from your pevious p[osts) then I would suggest just staying in the house. It's not like your going to bang or anything, and I'm sure the parents wouldnt flip out about cuddling in the house. I'm sure they understand you guys are just kids. How old are you two anyways?

[football]

We are both 19, at home on christmas break right now. We go to the same college though, about 3-4 hours frome home, can't wait to go back up to college. We have a lot of free time up there and dont live 45 min away, just a short walk away. I have a feeling i'll be seeing her much more when we get up there.

What you said about the quest house makes sence, allthough everytime I've been over there her parents have left for about 2 hours each time to go out to eat, so I dont think they care that much.

[Sum1]

Yeah but just be a little careful. Yeah college should be better but make sure to give her a little space up there consiudering you guys live right next to eachother. You want to keep her guessing so do not smother!

[theotherguy0123]

Sum1, hahahahahaa, I cant believe u said u just chill at a bar and make fun of other girls who are fashion no-nos lol, you are so mean lol.

[Sum1]

Haha shit is true though! I'm like, "Damn girl, those pants are not long enough, I shouldnt be able to see more than 1 inch of your high heels..." LMAO! I'm an idiot lol!

[football]

Haha shit is true though! I'm like, "Damn girl, those pants are not long enough, I shouldnt be able to see more than 1 inch of your high heels..." LMAO! I'm an idiot lol!

Haha thats funny, just make sure you dont say something that would offend the girl you with lol