Are older guys REALLY any different?

[Gigabitch]

I think pig-men just find better ways of hiding their pigginess as they get older. Some guys (especially the ones with little sisters) aren't quite so wretched, no matter what age they are.

[VeryIntrigued]

Yet every single male my age that I've ever known, only cares about getting drunk/high and having sex. They do not understand someone like me. They go clubbing, get trashed, and stumble into their cars with their obnoxious God awful music blasting all the way home.

While I know your experience has given you this impression, but please don't lump every guy in your age group like this. I'm 22 and none of what you mentioned even remotely describes me. Yes I realize I'm in the minority here, but still I'd hate for anyone to make the judgment that I'm a sex crazed neanderthal simply based on my age.

I find it rather irritating when I hang around with guys who rate girls based on appearance. When the discussion comes up I often like to throw things in there that I hope get them thinking about things aside from her body. As you can imagine, it can often be difficult for me to relate with many guys my age.

While I hate to admit it as it makes me seem prudish or self effacing, I have realized that I am unusually wise for my age. That by no means make me perfect however.

As for your question about older men here is an interesting example. I have a friend who is now 32 and only starting to realize the values of a woman outside of her physical appearance. He used to be quite an "active" man when he was younger (once balancing 4 girlfriends at once without telling any of them). However he now has a girlfriend he likes to call "his wife" since they have been going out for over 2 years (it's a long distance relationship), and as far as I know he has not cheated on her or even fooled around at all. I can tell he's learned the error of his ways and has found a relationship with more substance.

So yes in all likely hood your chances of finding a more mature man are much higher when you get into the 30's age group. But it's not absolute, some people never learn.

As others have mentioned I think you are looking in all the wrong places. I'm also curious to know how you dress? Do you tend to favor clothing that is quite revealing? If you do, you are likely to attract all those shallow guys that you despise. I'm not saying to dress like a nun, but there is a big difference between flattering clothing and revealing clothing.

[Junket]

Yes I realize I'm in the minority here

Shut up, you're not a minority, you're not the exception, you're not special.

She just doesn't notice any of the guys they aren't crazy party goer, sex crazed, drunkards because they're not running around screaming and putting on a show about how important they think work, studying or volunteering is.

[VeryIntrigued]

[QUOTE=Frasbee;465805]Shut up, you're not a minority, you're not the exception, you're not special./QUOTE]
Heh, great way to start a rebuttal. No I don't think I'm "special", but from my experience a lot of guys I've met are more womanizing in nature. How big the ratio difference is, I don't know (nor could something like that be accurately documented). But even if the theoretical scale was 51% to 49%, the term minority still applies here.

If you are gonna call me out on something, I would appreciate it if you could provide a better argument.

[Junket]

[quote=VeryIntrigued;465807]

Shut up, you're not a minority, you're not the exception, you're not special./QUOTE]
Heh, great way to start a rebuttal. No I don't think I'm "special", but from my experience a lot of guys I've met are more womanizing in nature. How big the ratio difference is, I don't know (nor could something like that be accurately documented). But even if the theoretical scale was 51% to 49%, the term minority still applies here.

If you are gonna call me out on something, I would appreciate it if you could provide a better argument.

If you're gonna spout bullshit I would ask you to do the same.

[VeryIntrigued]

[quote=Frasbee;465809]

If you're gonna spout bullshit I would ask you to do the same.

I give up. You are clearly just looking to instigate an argument. I'm not gonna play these games with you.

[Junket]

I give up. You are clearly just looking to instigate an argument. I'm not gonna play these games with you.

I concede.

You are clearly the bigger, better, more mature young man.

I beacon of hope for all naive young women everywhere.

[ecojeanne]

i kinda have to agree with fras, he makes a valid point, by saying you are in the minority therefore you do think that you are unusual, therefore unique, therefore special and deserve better than others your own age, but my dear you won't get it with an older guy, and no you're not special, you just haven't noticed the real people those guys are yet. like i said actions speak louder than words

[VeryIntrigued]

i kinda have to agree with fras, he makes a valid point, by saying you are in the minority therefore you do think that you are unusual, therefore unique, therefore special and deserve better than others your own age, but my dear you won't get it with an older guy, and no you're not special, you just haven't noticed the real people those guys are yet. like i said actions speak louder than words

Thanks for your response.

I apologize to everyone here if it sounded as though I was trying to make myself out as some great person. That wasn't my intention.

Fras, insulting someone is not the best way to make a point.

[bluesummer]

OP, despite having met some VERY immature older men, the majority tend to have it a little more together than when they were younger. That said, at 22, I hung out with guys that didn't display this kind of behaviour. There's intelligent, kinda-mature guys in their early to mid-twenties too, you just need to be running in the right social circles to find them. A 30-something year old man, if actually mature, will generally not find a 22 year old relationship worthy, simply because at that age, they are thinking about the long term.....buying a house, settling down. Not something you are likely to be (or should be!) considering at your age.

Women don't do this? They don't discuss what size penis is satisfactory, they don't refuse to date a guy because he isn't tall enough or his hair is receding? Humans are shallow little buggers, male or female.

I think overall, women's standards for PHYSICAL attributes tend to be lower. I've dated men who are skinny, overweight, shorter than I like, not measuring up in the nether regions. It didn't make me stop dating them. Their personality did. I think women are pickier about careers and cars.

[Doc Durian]

I think women are pickier about careers and cars.

From the mouths of babes...

[bluesummer]

Well, I'm not going to lie and say we're completely innocent.

Yeah, I judge a man on his car. Totally.

[Doc Durian]

I drive a slighty less dented foreign version of Axle Foley's Chevy. What does that say about me?

[Gigabitch]

I drive a slighty less dented foreign version of Axle Foley's Chevy. What does that say about me?

It says you're old enough to know who Axle Foley is.

[Aeradalia]

It says you're old enough to know who Axle Foley is.

So he's 24 or older?