A question that i've wondered for a while....

[Jayrose]

How do you/would you treat a girl if you simply wanted sex.

[VincenzoG91]

I would call an escort and pay her cash.

[bloodtippedrose]

flirt with her, pay for her dinner, and tell her upfront (before sex) that you're not looking for a relationship so you two are on the same page. It's messed up to lead a girl on by not saying anything because she could easily develop unwanted feelings. Whatever relationship you choose to have with a girl just make sure its mutual by talking to her first.

[MrE]

If I really wanted sex I would game her hardcore. Which means, at first I wouldn't act very interested in her, but I would be social with her friends - disarming the group and making her feel more comfortable because she would think I'm not trying to get to her. Then I would throw light-hearted backhanded compliments at her - ie "Nice dress! That's the second one just like that I've seen tonight!" or "Nice nails, are they fake?", or something to that effect, which would slightly lower her perceived value, meanwhile my perceived value would remain high because I would be very social and such. I would use a little bit of light 'Kino', which means subtle flirtatious touches, but still act like we wouldn't work together as a couple - "You're nice and all, but I don't think you and I would really work out." This drives women crazy, as then you become a little hard to get. Eventually I would work through to the comfort stages, try to show dominance subtly while showing her that we can have a great time together, and eventually get her number. Then after about 4-7 hours of comforting, I would really ramp up the sexual tension and I'm in like SIN! If you're good, it works almost every time. Not that I'm great at it, but it does work. Much better than the approaches many idiot males make, anyway.

[Corgan]

This seems like alot of work for sex? Well, from a womesn point of view. I guess its worth it for guys.

[Yet another guy]

Well, obviously. Men have to work to get sex unlike women. I can give you a similar guide for women which will work at least as well as MrE's guide for men. Walk up to a guy and say "Let's ****". May not work for the ugliest of women, though.

[girl68]

In my experience, get her wasted.

[MrE]

This seems like alot of work for sex? Well, from a womesn point of view. I guess its worth it for guys.

You guys are freggin' complicated, that's why!

Many girls have 'bitch shields' and 'anti-slut defense' mechanisms built in that are hard to penetrate. The 'lets f*ck' thing works for almost all guys if the girl is at least mildly attractive, but it's not the same for most girls. Sure, those girls DO exist but in my experience they are VERY few and far in between. Most girls that I would want to have sex with don't go for the 'let's drink and screw' methodology. You really have to work at it. That's why gaming is the only way I can have a really good chance at having sex with the girl I really want to have sex with.

[cheeky&sexy]

lol your method for getting sex is interesting, though i do find it funny how guys go to such great lengths for sex. Getting sex from attractive girls is no where near as hard as u made it out to be haha. Its pretty funny to us when we can see how hard a guy is clearly trying to have sex with us, when all the games and impressing isnt even necessary. Though im sure you're method works as well most of the time, i cant imagine the backhanded comments being effective. In all honesty the guys me and my friends have sex with the fastest are the ones that are very flattering and nice. It might be obvious theyre a player, but if theyre hot it doesnt matter and we'll put them into the hook up category and do it sooner rather than later. Your way im sure works but is far more time consuming and is likely to hurt girls feelings. Making them feel like theyre not good enough to u and have to prove themselves.. going to get u a bad reputation very quickly. Being a sweet talker will get u further much faster and the girls are less likely to hate you if u have sex fast then say u dont want anything more than a casual thing, cos they wouldve have had all that time to develop feelings for u.

[IndigoGal]

MrE's method is one that's advocated in several places online and in books etc. It does work. The backhanded comments always bugged me too, but the philosophy there is threefold; one it makes you seem less interested and therefore like less of a threat and more of a challenge, which makes some girls more interested, two it makes her want to prove your negative remarks wrong, and three girls who are really hot are used to getting a lot of complements, so it makes you stand out more from the rest of the "herd." It also plays into self esteem issues that a lot of girls deal with. It's sad that it works on so many women, but it does, and he's right, most women won't respond to a direct request for sex.

Frankly, I've had guys play that game with me, and the backhanded complements just rather irritate me. I much prefer a guy to be genuinely complimentary, but I have to say, there is something to tossing in a little teasing now and then. When a guy is too full of compliments, I get the feeling he's either desperate or wants more than just sex. Honestly I think the confidence, group dynamic, and kino are the most important parts of the equation.

[MrE]

Cheeky,

Well, don't confuse backhanded compliments with being rude and condescending, it's more of a playful thing.

Also, it really is that hard to get girls into bed if they're that hot. I used to go the 'nice guy' route and it just doesn't work on the really sexy ladies. They get that crap ALL the time. Sure, I could probably find a one-night stand fairly easily if I looked hard enough, and in the right places. But if you want a top quality girl looks-wise, you have to put in the work. Besides, it's really not THAT much work, like I said - about 4-7 hours once you set the hook. Most hot girls don't really want the 'nice guy', even if that's what they say. Trust me. That's just what they're expected to say, so that's what they say. Most girls want an alpha male who can be spontaneous, not needy, etc. Of course they want the guy to eventually become the 'nice guy', but when you go straight into that you go right into the friend zone - it happens almost every time.

A really good pick-up artist could get just about any girl, even the ones who think they wouldn't go for it, because it's not that obvious if you're good enough at it. It's a dynamic art, and it works. So, if I really wanted to have sex with somebody, then I would use it.

Also, most guys don't mind putting in the 'work' because it's actually quite fun. Addicting, even. If you're hot, then it might not seem like it would be that hard for a guy, and that's because YOU get the pick of the litter. How many guys do you turn down before you find 'Mr. Right'? Probably a ton. So, for an average joe to have the upper-hand, he needs to game.